|
Author
|
Topic: NASA imagery (photos, diagrams) indexes
|
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 06-28-2008 05:16 PM
   
Does anyone know if there are indexes available for NASA images other than the Apollo lunar ones?I'm talking about all the training photos, equipment images and various diagrams that NASA has issued over the years. I did try to start a sort of index for Apollo artists concepts on my site a few years but but never managed to fill in the gaps. I think it would be great if we could get together and produce an index to all the images that reside in our personal collections (don't worry Ed, we'll give you extra time!), just a simple text file with the image number and a description of the image. Maybe someone with better website knowledge than me could make it so it's available online and we could log in and fill in the blank spaces. Any volunteers, criticism, advice, (free money)? |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 06-28-2008 11:54 PM
I do have a NASA publication named "NASA Photography Index, NP-104" (1987) with a list of referenced pictures (b&w, color) covering Apollo, space probes, Skylab, Shuttle etc. The book mentions that it's a list of photos available from NASA (I guess back in 1987)- available: color 4-by-5 inch transparencies and b&w 8-by-10 inch glossies. For free. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 06-29-2008 03:21 PM
Thanks for the heads up Chris, I'll look for that, but I'm guessing it won't be comprehensive.I have made a small start as an example of the kind of listing I was thinking of, descriptions are from the JSC image collection (ignore the stuff below it was just the easiest page to add it to). As a text file it is easy to update and add missing info, I just need to find a way to put it online and make it accessible for updating by numerous people. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 06-29-2008 11:33 PM
You're right, Adam. The book was released by the Public Affairs Office so it's images made available for the press. And as you pointed out, Ed always manages to come up with unusual shots. |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 06-30-2008 12:33 AM
Good idea, Adam. I can send you what I have, which is a Word-file of various photo-captions (and numbers) which I have assembled over the years. It is by no means complete (if such a thing even exists) and it is mainly Mercury-Gemini-Apollo.I also have a similar list of NASA HQ-numbers (69-H-123 or 69-HC-123), which is rather long. Problem with that is that they switched to another numbering system sometime during 1964. Before that photos were filed with the subject matter part of the number: 64-Apollo-10 or 64-GT3-20. And then there are the KSC photos... We could even think of adding thumbs to the list and... OK, hold it. Don't get too ambitious! (Edit: Adam, I see you already did that with the artist concepts - looks good.) |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 06-30-2008 12:46 AM
Thanks Chris and Ed,I really think this would be a useful asset for alot of us on collectSPACE. I'm looking into learning how to work with databases and forms within my website (if my server is capable of dealing with this stuff) then i need to learn to make the pages but I'd be glad if you would email your word file over in the meantime as it may have a better formatting system than the one on my page. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 06-30-2008 04:20 AM
Adam, is your idea to assemble a somewhat similar site to Kipp Teague's Apollo image database but focusing on non-Apollo images? |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 06-30-2008 04:38 AM
Adam, I have sent you my JSC list. Let me know when you receive it. Here is a sample from it: - S65-10154
Astronaut Rusty Schweickart inspecting Gemini spacecraft. - S65-10173 to S65-10176
Gemini crew during water egress training. - S65-10483 November 24, 1964
Astronauts John W. Young (left) and Virgil Grissom are shown during suiting up for egress training during Gemini-Titan 2 simulation launch at Pad 19. - S65-10644 November 19, 1964
Astronaut John Young is shown inspecting the inside of Gemini spacecraft at the Mission Control Center at Cape Kennedy, Florida. - S65-18200 March 23, 1965
Overall view of Mission Control Center - Houston during the Gemini-Titan 3 flight. - S65-18737 to S65-18761 March 23, 1965
Gemini-3 onboard photos of earth. - S65-19770 April 1965
Assembly begins of the Little Joe II launch vehicle for Apollo launch escape system test A-003, the fourth in a series of tests at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. The aftbody of the launcher is hoisted into position for erection on Launch Complex 36. Six Algol rocket motors will power the Little Joe II launch vehicle - no Recruit motors will be used for this mission. - S65-19774 November 1965
Four solid rocket motors for the Little Joe launch vehicle are seen during installation in the aftbody of the vehicle. - S65-19797 December 1965
Apollo command module 002 is being transported from the VAB to Launch Complex 36 at White Sands Missile Range for mating with the service module and Little Joe II launch vehicle. - S65-19807 May 19, 1965
Launch of Little Joe II launch vehicle carrying Apollo boilerplate #22 at 6:01 a.m. MST on May 19, 1965, from Launch Complex 36 at White Sands Missile Range. Mission A-003 was the fourth in a series of Apollo launch escape system tests. - S65-19819 June 29, 1965
The second Apollo pad abort test, using Apollo boilerplate #23A, was launched at 6:00 a.m. MST on June 29, 1965, from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. - S65-19821 June 25, 1965
The second Apollo pad abort test, using Apollo boilerplate #23A, was launched at 6:00 a.m. MST on June 29, 1965, from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. - S65-19822 June 25, 1965
The second Apollo pad abort test, using Apollo boilerplate #23A, was launched at 6:00 a.m. MST on June 29, 1965, from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. - S65-19825 June 25, 1965
The second Apollo pad abort test, using Apollo boilerplate #23A, was launched at 6:00 a.m. MST on June 29, 1965, from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. - S65-19886 May 5, 1965
Apollo command module boilerplate #22 atop Little Joe II launch vehicle 12-51-2 is awaiting launch from Launch Complex 36 at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. The spacecraft will be launched to an altitude of 112,000 feet above the ground, where the escape subsystem will be fired. The escape motor will carry the spacecraft to a peak altitude of about 175,000 feet, after which it is expected to land about 110 miles uprange. - S65-20864 March 25, 1965
News conference held at the Carriage House press site the day after the successful Gemini-3 mission. Left to right are Dr. Kurt H. Debus, Director, Kennedy Space Center; Christopher C. Kraft, Jr., MSC Assistant Director for Flight Operations; Astronaut Joh W. Young, pilot of Gemini-3; Astronaut Virgil I. Grissom, command pilot; Dr. Robert R. Gilruth, MSC Director; Dr. Robert C. Seamans, Associate Administrator, NASA; and Julian Scheer, Assistant Administrator, Office of Public Affairs, NASA.
|
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 06-30-2008 02:28 PM
Chris, no I don't want to create an online gallery like Kipp's site. It would be a text only listing of NASA images with brief descriptions of the photo, similar to what Ed has kindly demonstrated above. But I'm guessing that as there are so many gaps in current listings then the numbers must have assigned to images, its these gaps I'd like to fill in. Example: - S61-00220 Close-up view of Astronaut Alan Shepard in his pressure suit...
(What are the next 19 images?)
- S61-00239 Glenn, Grissom and Shepard by Redstone
(Next 6?)
- S61-00246 Original Mercury Astronauts with Col. John A. (Shorty) Powers
(Next 1004?)
- S61-01250 Mercury astronauts standing beside a Convair 106-B aircraft
I hope this shows my reasoning.Ed, I received your JSC list, many thanks. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 07-06-2008 06:36 AM
Hmmmm, I can now see why nobody has bothered doing it.I think the NASA photography darkrooms must have been BIG and BUSY places! |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 07-06-2008 06:46 AM
Lol, Chris, I am at my mums and I have just had a look thru my books and found the photography index you mentioned.Im working on the NASA S-series images and sadly the index is for Headquarters issued images, bloody typical! |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 09-10-2008 05:39 PM
Well I have been busy doing other things but here is a first go at getting some of the JSC images in a list. I don't think it will ever get completed, but it does demonstrate the scale of the amount of images taken by NASA if you look at the gaps that need filling! |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
|
posted 09-10-2008 06:19 PM
Wouldn't it be neat if someday the full catalog of these images was online for searching, with a link you could click to view the image in question?Okay, that's probably dreaming...at least for the time being. But perhaps one could develop some sort of site like Adam suggests where users could add in their own information from NASA photos they have in their collections. If enough users added in information from their collections, one could eventually build a very nice reference database. Plus, instead of putting all of the work on one person's shoulders, it spreads it out among many people. I know I'd be willing to fill in the blanks for photos that I have. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 04-05-2009 01:39 PM
I have updated my image index page (and moved it to a new location). It now contains details on 3832 unique NASA S-Series images. Many thanks to Ed H for a large chunk of dataIt's a small step (as someone once said), but its a start! (Additions are welcomed in the form of text [txt] files to my email address above.) |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-06-2009 12:29 AM
Excellent work, Adam! |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 04-06-2009 08:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by nasamad:
I have updated my image index page (and moved it to a new location).
Any future plans to hyperlink the individual listings in the index to the actual photos? |
Jay
Member Posts: 82
From: Bloomington, Illinois, USA
Registered: May 2005
|
posted 04-06-2009 08:25 AM
The Retro Space Image CDs contain the photo numbers, dates and a hi-res image. What more could you want? |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 04-06-2009 08:54 AM
The index is online... CDs are not (correct?). The index would be of great utility if it was directly linked to the data. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 04-06-2009 01:32 PM
I don't believe all those images are available online Scott and sadly if they were I just dont have the time to hyperlink them. The webpage is a standard html file so anyone is welcome to copy it and hyperlink if they wish to, the data is for all to shareYou can see from the index that there are tens of thousands of images issued every year, or at least, numbers issued to images even if they aren't in the public domain. My 3000+ listings are a very small portion of the numbers that have been assigned. |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-08-2009 08:21 AM
It would be nice if we could build some sort of reference library, such as the one I made here as a small test. There are no hi-res photos behind the thumbs, though.All the hi-res scans are available on the CDs that J.L. has for sale... |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 04-08-2009 09:14 AM
Are photo captions included on the CDs? |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-08-2009 10:22 AM
The scans are grouped by mission, so elaborate captions are not necessary. In many cases J.L. has added details in the filenames, though: AS11-0029-S67-32612-COLLINS AND RICHARD WRIGHT IN BLDG 37 OF LRL-9.22.67 |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 04-08-2009 11:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by heng44:
The scans are grouped by mission, so elaborate captions are not necessary.
Multiple keyword indexing (beyond mission affiliation) is important to facilitate search of an image based on subject matter content (i.e. inquiry for all pics that show the LM cockpit, or a lunar landing, or prelaunch activities etc). |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-08-2009 02:47 PM
Some people are never satisfied. Scanning, cleaning, color-correcting and organizing many thousands of photos is costing us a large amount of our time. We are making available many never-seen-before photos from the depths of the NASA archives (and from other sources unavailable to many). Expecting us to also make a keyword index would seem to be a bit unrealistic... |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 04-08-2009 03:40 PM
Ed...I apologize for not being succinct in my prior entries. They were not intended as an affront or to suggest you haven't gone above/beyond. The comments were a general observation to the cS community collective about what can be done to improve exploitation/information mining of the photographs. Analysis and keyword catagorization of the photo's is a task that might be broken up among volunteers as a collaborative effort. We just need somebody to stand up and host the database. I think it would only further enhance the significant contribution you have already made to preserving Space History.
|
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 04-08-2009 11:52 PM
I agree with Scott's post.My point was just that I am unable to identify the pictures, by mission or who/what's being shown. For example: who's portrayed in S68-55723 (from 1968-3.jpg)? That being said, I like your thumbnails images! |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-09-2009 12:11 AM
Sorry Scott, I thought your comments were related to the CD project. I agree that in an ideal world it would be great to have some sort of NASA image-Wikipedia with thumbs, keywords and cross-references. User input would be important, because I often find mistakes in NASA photo captions. But it would be a lot of work to build that sort of thing and until then Adam's listing would be a nice tool. |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 04-09-2009 02:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
For example: who's protrayed in S68-55723 (from 1968-3.jpg)?
Flight Director Milt Windler. |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
|
posted 04-09-2009 10:36 AM
List was upped to over 4000 images last night (I know a few doubles crept in last night and will be getting rid of them asap). |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 05-02-2009 04:04 AM
The pages of 1968 thumbnails have been updated. |
Lou Chinal
Member Posts: 1306
From: Staten Island, NY
Registered: Jun 2007
|
posted 05-02-2009 01:18 PM
Let's not forget there are Langley photos, McDonnell photos and private contractor photos. |
heng44
Member Posts: 3386
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
|
posted 05-03-2009 03:01 AM
...not to mention KSC photos and NASA HQ photos. Lots of photos in my collection have 3 ID-numbers on the back: JSC numbers as well as KSC numbers plus also HQ numbers. Can somebody please build a cross-reference engine?  |
AstroAutos
Member Posts: 803
From: Co. Monaghan, Republic of Ireland
Registered: Mar 2009
|
posted 07-12-2009 12:32 AM
I am aware that NASA has all images in the public domain numbered so that they can be easily identified. Can someone please give me a link to all of these images so I can search for the images I want and so find out their numbers?Editor's note: Threads merged. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6210
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
|
posted 07-13-2009 12:06 AM
Start from the JSC Digital Image Collection. For Apollo imagery, go to Kipp Teague's Apollo Archive and for shuttle imagery, go to NASA's Human Space Flight gallery.Other sites worth mentioning? |
advertisement