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mensax
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posted 01-09-2006 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't a shame that so many newspapers gave so little thought to the future appearance of their headlines during the time of the Apollo 11 mission?

So many papers are ruined by having Ed Kennedys "moment" plastered right next to the greatest achievement of mankind. What were they thinking?

Here's a link to a newspaper that is listed on ebay that is the most extreme that I've ever seen... with the headline in huge print "Sharon Killed at Wierdo Bash" and then right below that is a photo of the crew of Apollo 11

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6593703120

[This message has been edited by mensax (edited January 09, 2006).]

AstronautBrian
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posted 01-09-2006 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstronautBrian   Click Here to Email AstronautBrian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is weird. Fortunatly for every "bad" paper there are plenty of good ones!

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Blackarrow
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posted 01-09-2006 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every major British newspaper gave banner headline coverage to the first Moon landing, properly relegating an otherwise major news-story (Chappaquiddick) to page 2 or at most the bottom of page 1. Even here in Belfast, the local papers set aside our local difficulties and gave the full-page "one for the history books" treatment to Apollo 11.

I bet Ted Kennedy is still kicking himself that he declined the invitation to attend the launch. If he had been more interested in his brother's legacy he would have travelled on to Houston for the landing and who knows how history might have unfolded....

Astro Bill
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posted 01-09-2006 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Bill   Click Here to Email Astro Bill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Blackarrow:

I am sorry, but I must give my 2c worth to this thread. Senator Edward Kemmedy was the "Heir Apparent" to the Kennedy Legacy in July 1969 when he attended a reunion of all of his brother's campaign workers in Chappaquiddick, Martha's Vineyard, Mass. on the occasion of the first anniversary of Senator Robert Kennedy's assassination.

http://www.newseum.org/cybernewseum/exhibits/dateline_moon/images/paper_.gif

It was very appropriate that he should be there to console those who gave so much to his brother's campaign. In spite of what you may think, he was supporting his brother's legacy by his presence at that event. I am sure that you meant JFK's legacy, not RFK's. However, if RFK had lived to complete the 1968 campaign, he would have continued the JFK legacy, if he had been elected President. They are therefore one and the same legacy. EMK inherited the legacy.

We may never know the facts of what transpired, in spite of the hundreds of books written on the events of that night. What we do know is that the career of Sen. Edward Kennedy probably would have ended the next morning had it not been for the more important headline "MEN WALK ON MOON."

http://www.classicheadlines.com/i/tn_Men_Walk_on_Moon.JPG

In most newspapers the latest tragedy to befall the Kennedy family was relegated to a minor position "below the fold" or on page two. One reason for that was that many of the facts were not known at that time and it appeared to some to be another event in the Kennedy family's tragic history.

http://www.newseum.org/cybernewseum/exhibits/dateline_moon/images/papers.gif

In spite of these events, Senator Edward Kennedy survived the scandal to be a leading force in American politics. I saw Sen Kennedy today on C-SPAN at the confirmation Hearings for Judge Alito to the US Supreme Court. This is 38 years after Chappaquiddick. If the Landing on the Moon had happened a day or two later, the scandal of Chappaquiddick would have been on the front page of every newspaper.

http://www.newseum.org/datelinemoon/essays/images/newspaper.gif

The price that Sen. Kennedy paid was that he was never able to get the nomination for President of the US. If the scandal had been front page news on 20 July 1969, it may have caused Sen. Kennedy to resign. The fact that the Moon Landing was front page news on that day is one of those strokes of luck that have changed history.

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Astro Bill
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posted 01-10-2006 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Bill   Click Here to Email Astro Bill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there any other links to Apollo XI newspaper headlines?

Blackarrow
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posted 01-10-2006 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro Bill,
An interesting contribution, and I certainly agree with you that if Mary Jo Kopechne had not died on the night of July 18th, 1969 (but a few days earlier or a week later) the scandal would have had far greater coverage. One thing puzzles me about your contribution: you refer to a reunion of Robert Kennedy's campaighn workers "..on the occasion of the first anniversary of Robert Kennedy's assassination..." Senator Robert Kennedy was assassinated on 5th June, 1968. Hardly the first anniversary....

ejectr
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posted 01-10-2006 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close enough.....you don't have to celebrate an anniversary on THE day for it to be an anniversary. He's right.

I saw the car it happened in up close and personal being stored in a garage just down the driveway from my nephew's house.

Eerie feeling looking inside it.

Astro Bill
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posted 01-10-2006 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Bill   Click Here to Email Astro Bill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blackarrow:

That was the purpose of the get together. That is when it was scheduled. It was when everyone could manage to come. The exact date is not important for the purpose of the "party." I believe that it was also schedules to coinside with a regatta in Martha's Vineyard.

I remember the day that JFK was assassinated. I also remember the day that Robert Kennedy was assassinated. They were equally traumatic events. Edward Kennedy was next to pick up the mantle. He inherited the Kennedy Legacy. He has never turned away from the cause of human rights. Even today he still serves in the Senate as the leader of Democrats and a staunch defender of Social Security and the freedoms that we as Americans hold dear.

EMK has his detractors. However, I am sure that they will all admit that he was very lucky to have survived such a scandal. One of the reasons for his survival is the fact that the Apollo XI Moon Landing occurred in the same time frame as Chappaquiddick. If that had not happened and if the EMK scandal had made banner headlines worldwide, the Kennedy Legacy would have ended and US history would have changed.

Blackarrow
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posted 01-12-2006 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro Bill,
Bearing in mind the facts which are on the record about the Chappaquiddick scandal, it is hardly surprising that Edward Kennedy "has his detractors" as you delicately put it. You can count me as one of them. Obviously a majority of voters in Massachusetts are prepared to turn a blind eye, as is their democratic right.

I don't remember the assassination of Robert Kennedy, perhaps because of the passage of time, my age at the time (13) and the fact that he wasn't the President. But I certainly do remember the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It was and is a shocking event burned into people's memories, and I was only 9 at the time.

You refer to the Kennedy legacy. I am quite certain JFK's legacy would have survived intact without any input by his black sheep brother Teddy.

trajan
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posted 01-13-2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trajan   Click Here to Email trajan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a great affinity with the Vineyard, having lived and worked there for a Summer whilst a student, and I certainly don't want to offend Massachusetts' first family or their supporters. However, I agree with Blackarrow's comments that Edward Kennedy's career would have been better served by him being at various NASA facilities during that tumultuous week.

There can be no doubt that the Senator, like his two brothers, has done huge amounts in the cause of civil and human rights. I have to say, though, that, in terms of changing history, Ted Kennedy would have had a greater impact had he run for the Presidency. The fact that he didn't was down to his behaviour at the Dyke Bridge

mjanovec
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posted 01-13-2006 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by trajan:
Ted Kennedy would have had a greater impact had he run for the Presidency. The fact that he didn't was down to his behaviour at the Dyke Bridge

He did run for the Presidency, but he didn't get enough support to be nominated by his party.

Astro Bill
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posted 01-13-2006 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Bill   Click Here to Email Astro Bill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trajan:

Edward Kennedy DID run for President of the US in 1980. However, he was unable to get the Democratic nomination. This is in spite of the fact that he won several primaries in the latter part of the campaign. At the convention many delegates wanted to switch from Carter to Kennedy to join the trend of delegates to EMK. However, Carter would not release his delegates on the first ballot. EMK was not able to get the nomination. Carter lost to Ronald Reagan in the election.

Edward Kennedy has been the leader of the Democratic Party since 1968, except the the years of the Clinton Administration. He is still in the US Senate and in the public eye. A tarnished hero.

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