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madelman2001
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posted 04-01-2002 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelman2001   Click Here to Email madelman2001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have read that the American astronauts are THE ASTRONAUTS.

The RUSSIAN ONES, THE COSMONAUTS, even the upcoming CHINESE are called TAIKONAUTS

What should be the name for the European ones?
It is really necessary to make this disctinctions or we can just call of all them Astronauts /and/OR Cosmonauts

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posted 04-01-2002 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques   Click Here to Email Jacques     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EURONAUTS


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posted 04-01-2002 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The title (astronaut, cosmonaut, taikonaut, etc.) refers to from where the person launched, not where he/she was born.

For example, Norm Thagard is both an astronaut and cosmonaut because he has launched both on the U.S. Space Shuttle and the Russian Soyuz. Dennis Tito, though from the U.S., is a cosmonaut because he launched on a Soyuz. Valery Tokarev is Russian but as he has only launched aboard the U.S. Space Shuttle is an astronaut.

As an aside, there are technically no taikonauts. The term was devised by the owner of the website Go Taikonauts! and has been spread through the media, but the Chinese use no such word to describe even their candidates. I used to know the word they did use but it slips my mind at present.

madelman2001
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posted 04-01-2002 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelman2001   Click Here to Email madelman2001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Robert,

Thanks so much for your appreciation, but if in a not so far future Europe develops capacity for manned spaceflights, what should be the name then?

Thanks

Kirsten
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posted 04-01-2002 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kirsten   Click Here to Email Kirsten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

Thanks Robert for your comprehensive info!

Where do you have it from ?

Hm -

I happen to agree with Jacques as I already read that term in several European space flight books/publications ... .

ESA's Ulf Merbold must be a double astronaut and a one-time cosmonaut then. Guess I'll ask him next time I meet him. <G>

BW, Kirsten

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posted 04-01-2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robonaut   Click Here to Email Robonaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The title (astronaut, cosmonaut, taikonaut, etc.) refers to from where the person launched, not where he/she was born.

For example, Norm Thagard is both an astronaut and cosmonaut because he has launched both on the U.S. Space Shuttle and the Russian Soyuz. Dennis Tito, though from the U.S., is a cosmonaut because he launched on a Soyuz. Valery Tokarev is Russian but as he has only launched aboard the U.S. Space Shuttle is an astronaut.

As an aside, there are technically no taikonauts. The term was devised by the owner of the website Go Taikonauts! and has been spread through the media, but the Chinese use no such word to describe even their candidates. I used to know the word they did use but it slips my mind at present.


A couple of years ago an article in CapCom (Midlands Spaceflight Society's magazine) noted that the Chinese press were using the term 'Yuhangyuan' which apparently translates into 'space navigator'.

The same article noted 'Taikong' as the Chinese word for Cosmos. I think I prefer taikonaut because:

1. it fits with astronaut, cosmonaut etc.
2. it is certainly easier to say than yuhangyuan.

Regarding the name for ESA's astronauts, I am with Jacques and Kirsten. I quite like the term euronauts even if 'euro' has no space connection. On second thoughts perhaps I will stick to 'ESA's astronauts'.

Best wishes

Rob W

Philip
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posted 04-02-2002 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the French Space Agency CNES called their crews "SPATIONAUTS" ... the European Space Agency preferes to speak about "Astronauts" ...

nasamad
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posted 04-02-2002 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the titles of the space voyagers was derived from the language spoken where they were launched.
Astronauts because of the use of Astro for outer space in English, and Cosmonauts because of the use of Cosmos for outer space in Russian.
Therefore Europeans would still be Astronauts I think

Probably wrong but thats my answer anyway !

Happy collecting......Adam

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posted 04-03-2002 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voskhod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I obtained an autograph from Reinhold Ewald on the 22nd Jan this year at in Edinburgh where he came to give a talk as part of the Edinburgh Lecture series in Our Dynamic Earth. He autographed my Dragonfly book and underneath his signature wrote Cosmonaut and then his mission number.
It is interesting that on Bonnie Dunbar's personal badge/patch when training for the backup for the Soyuz TM21 flight, it refers to her as an AstroCosmonaut.

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