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Topic: What would be the name for the European Astronauts??
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madelman2001 Member Posts: 20 From: Madrid, Spain Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-01-2002 05:11 AM
Hi,I have read that the American astronauts are THE ASTRONAUTS. The RUSSIAN ONES, THE COSMONAUTS, even the upcoming CHINESE are called TAIKONAUTS What should be the name for the European ones? It is really necessary to make this disctinctions or we can just call of all them Astronauts /and/OR Cosmonauts |
Jacques New Member Posts: From: Registered:
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posted 04-01-2002 06:40 AM
EURONAUTS ----
Jacques :-) www.spacepatches.info www.jacqmans.com |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42981 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-01-2002 07:49 AM
The title (astronaut, cosmonaut, taikonaut, etc.) refers to from where the person launched, not where he/she was born. For example, Norm Thagard is both an astronaut and cosmonaut because he has launched both on the U.S. Space Shuttle and the Russian Soyuz. Dennis Tito, though from the U.S., is a cosmonaut because he launched on a Soyuz. Valery Tokarev is Russian but as he has only launched aboard the U.S. Space Shuttle is an astronaut. As an aside, there are technically no taikonauts. The term was devised by the owner of the website Go Taikonauts! and has been spread through the media, but the Chinese use no such word to describe even their candidates. I used to know the word they did use but it slips my mind at present. |
madelman2001 Member Posts: 20 From: Madrid, Spain Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-01-2002 11:14 AM
Hi Robert,Thanks so much for your appreciation, but if in a not so far future Europe develops capacity for manned spaceflights, what should be the name then? Thanks |
Kirsten Member Posts: 536 From: Delft, Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-01-2002 03:13 PM
Hi all, Thanks Robert for your comprehensive info! Where do you have it from ? Hm - I happen to agree with Jacques as I already read that term in several European space flight books/publications ... . ESA's Ulf Merbold must be a double astronaut and a one-time cosmonaut then. Guess I'll ask him next time I meet him. <G> BW, Kirsten
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Robonaut Member Posts: 259 From: Solihull, West Mids, England Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-01-2002 05:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: The title (astronaut, cosmonaut, taikonaut, etc.) refers to from where the person launched, not where he/she was born. For example, Norm Thagard is both an astronaut and cosmonaut because he has launched both on the U.S. Space Shuttle and the Russian Soyuz. Dennis Tito, though from the U.S., is a cosmonaut because he launched on a Soyuz. Valery Tokarev is Russian but as he has only launched aboard the U.S. Space Shuttle is an astronaut. As an aside, there are technically no taikonauts. The term was devised by the owner of the website Go Taikonauts! and has been spread through the media, but the Chinese use no such word to describe even their candidates. I used to know the word they did use but it slips my mind at present.
A couple of years ago an article in CapCom (Midlands Spaceflight Society's magazine) noted that the Chinese press were using the term 'Yuhangyuan' which apparently translates into 'space navigator'. The same article noted 'Taikong' as the Chinese word for Cosmos. I think I prefer taikonaut because: 1. it fits with astronaut, cosmonaut etc. 2. it is certainly easier to say than yuhangyuan. Regarding the name for ESA's astronauts, I am with Jacques and Kirsten. I quite like the term euronauts even if 'euro' has no space connection. On second thoughts perhaps I will stick to 'ESA's astronauts'. Best wishes Rob W
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Philip Member Posts: 5952 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-02-2002 07:15 AM
Although the French Space Agency CNES called their crews "SPATIONAUTS" ... the European Space Agency preferes to speak about "Astronauts" ... |
nasamad Member Posts: 2121 From: Essex, UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-02-2002 10:53 AM
I thought the titles of the space voyagers was derived from the language spoken where they were launched. Astronauts because of the use of Astro for outer space in English, and Cosmonauts because of the use of Cosmos for outer space in Russian. Therefore Europeans would still be Astronauts I thinkProbably wrong but thats my answer anyway ! Happy collecting......Adam |
Voskhod Member Posts: 72 From: Oxfordshire, UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 04-03-2002 03:33 AM
I obtained an autograph from Reinhold Ewald on the 22nd Jan this year at in Edinburgh where he came to give a talk as part of the Edinburgh Lecture series in Our Dynamic Earth. He autographed my Dragonfly book and underneath his signature wrote Cosmonaut and then his mission number. It is interesting that on Bonnie Dunbar's personal badge/patch when training for the backup for the Soyuz TM21 flight, it refers to her as an AstroCosmonaut. |