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Solarplexus
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posted 08-05-2018 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solarplexus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many rocket engines was there in total on the Apollo space vehicle, large and small ones?

I know there were five F-1s (first stage) and six J-2s (second and third stage). Eight retrorockets on the Saturn V first stage, four on the second stage and maybe four on the third stage, 16?

The escape tower, four. A main engine on the service/command module plus 12 attitude control system rockets. Two main engines on the lunar module descent/ascent stages (one each). Additionally 16 smaller thrusters on the LM ascent stage.

62 in grand total, is that correct?

space1
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posted 08-05-2018 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the escape rocket had a single rocket motor with 4 nozzles. At any rate it also had a jettison rocket engine at the nose.

SpaceAholic
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posted 08-05-2018 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Low, number well over 80. You under counted CSM RCS and there were S-II/S-IVB ullage motors and APS engines too.

Solarplexus
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posted 08-05-2018 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solarplexus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh, yes I obviously missed some there. Thanks for answers. I assumed by pictures that there was four engines in the escape tower, minus two there then. But a lot more engines on the S-II/S-IVB ullage motors and APS engines.

At Spaceline it is stated that there was 41 separate engines on the Saturn V. That must include retro rockets on all stages and separation rings I guess.

So it adds up. I will try to find some more info on the service/command and lunar modules.

Blackarrow
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posted 08-05-2018 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to take account of the fact that on Apollo 15 the number of first-stage retro-rockets was reduced from 8 to 4, but the number was restored to 8 for Apollo 16.

paul.i.w
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posted 08-06-2018 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paul.i.w   Click Here to Email paul.i.w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a useful video going through all 83 engines and motors.

Solarplexus
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posted 08-06-2018 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solarplexus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There you go, thank you. A very informative video. Thanks to Amy too.

So, 83 rocket engines in total, plus five on the escape tower if we include them, total 88. Or 84 on Apollo 15 as Blackarrow noted. A solid number. Would love to see them all laid out on a hangar floor.

Jim Behling
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posted 08-06-2018 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Escape tower had only three (escape, jettison and pitch over). The number of nozzles do not equate to number of motors. The escape motor had four nozzles but only one motor grain. Same with the jettison (multiple nozzles with one grain).

Solarplexus
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posted 08-06-2018 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solarplexus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's confirmative, thanks. I just included the number of engines stated in the end of the video, at 6:03 min. Then we have 83 engines plus 3 at the escape tower, 86 in total. 82 on Apollo 15. And all had to work, amazing.

Blackarrow
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posted 08-06-2018 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And all would have been in vain if the mortars that blew out the parachutes hadn't worked. But those were pyrotechnics, not rockets, and I don't think they count, or we would have to increase that number a lot!

Jim Behling
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posted 08-06-2018 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Solarplexus:
And all had to work, amazing.
No, the escape and pitch motor did not operate for a successful launch.

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