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Topic: Apollo crew walkout (to launch) imagery
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-19-2019 04:59 AM
Here is another photo taken at the Egress Door. It is the Apollo 15 crew, according to the photo caption, which has errors. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-23-2019 02:55 AM
Apparently, there was no Camera 007 pointed at the Egress Door location on ML-1 after it had been modified for the Skylab and ASTP launches. If that is correct, then there probably were no pad camera views of the Skylab and ASTP astronauts entering the Egress Door. |
perineau Member Posts: 390 From: FRANCE Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 06-23-2019 08:52 AM
I've been following this conversation for a while now; apparently there were no color pictures of the Apollo 7 crew walkout on launch day? |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-23-2019 11:03 AM
I have seen colour film footage of the Apollo 7 crew walkout on launch day. Have you seen that?(The crew walkout scene in the NASA film "The Flight of Apollo 7" is not the launch day walkout.)
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perineau Member Posts: 390 From: FRANCE Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 06-23-2019 11:30 AM
Yes, thank you, I have. But I've never seen any still color photos of the Apollo 7 crew walkout (if they exist). |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-23-2019 01:20 PM
Did you see the colour walkout photo I mentioned back on 07-17-2015 before that link was broken? I believe it was a launch day photo.Here is a different link for the same Apollo 7 image. |
perineau Member Posts: 390 From: FRANCE Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 06-24-2019 04:04 AM
Yes, I did — thank you very much. At least we see two of the three crew members; I wonder what the heck Schirra was talking about, was it a fish "that was this big"?!?! |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-24-2019 07:29 AM
In that photo, it looks to me like Schirra is jokingly about to give Slayton a big bear hug. Also in that photo and the walkout photos to the transfer van that I have seen, a suit tech is carrying Schirra's POV (Portable Oxygen Ventilator). |
Tom Member Posts: 1724 From: New York Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-24-2019 08:35 AM
It sure does. The only "hugs" I can remember with Apollo crew walkouts are Gene Cernan on Apollo 10 (astronaut secretary) and I believe Ron Evans (wife) on Apollo 17. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 06-24-2019 01:01 PM
A different and more detailed caption indicates that the Apollo 15 photo was taken earlier in July during the CDDT.
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 07-02-2019 03:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by oly: There are some interesting points in this including Wally Schirra describing what the Chromel patch on the back of Armstrong's suit are for.
In the Apollo 11 video, Walter Cronkite was wondering why Mike Collins did not have a Chromel patch on the back of his suit. The Chromel patch was on the A7L spacesuits of the astronauts who would be wearing the PLSS backpacks.From the imagery that I have seen, these astronauts had the Chromel patch on the back of their spacesuits on launch day: - Apollo 9: Schweickart only
- Apollo 10: Cernan only
- Apollo 11: Armstrong and Aldrin
- Apollo 12: Conrad and Bean
- Apollo 13: Lovell and Haise
- Apollo 14: Shepard and Mitchell
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 07-08-2019 10:33 AM
This photo shows a crew walkout from a different angle. Looks like Gordon and Bean on the Apollo 9 backup crew for the egress test. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 07-18-2019 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by LM-12: I found some Camera 034 and Camera 007 footage of the Apollo 11 astronauts arriving at the pad (at 20:40) and entering the Egress Door on launch day. Aldrin glances up at the camera.
Not seen in that clip: the elevator went up to the deck level of the ML platform and then back down to the Egress Door level. |
oly Member Posts: 1462 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
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posted 07-18-2019 10:27 PM
The elevator over-travel can be seen on the CBS remastered videotape of the Apollo 11 launch coverage. Additionally, the workers tasked with repairing the liquid Hydrogen GSE leak can be seen working at the LUT 200 foot level while the crew were boarding the spacecraft. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 07-19-2019 05:02 AM
That might explain the two pickup trucks parked near the elevator that the crew transfer van had to drive around, as seen from the Camera 034 location. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 07-21-2019 10:36 AM
The Apollo 9 crew at the Egress Door was captured in this television screen photo. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 08-31-2019 07:38 AM
It looks like the SLS Mobile Launcher has a similar Egress Door.
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 10-25-2019 07:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by LM-12: Photo S71-16635 has this caption
There is also this film footage of the Apollo 14 astronauts taken at the same time as photo S71-16635. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-16-2020 01:26 AM
The Apollo 13 astronauts can be seen arriving at Pad 39A and entering the Egress Door of the Mobile Launcher in this video of the launch day coverage on CBS posted a few days ago.Fred Haise is seen glancing up at the rocket. |
Space Cadet Carl Member Posts: 305 From: Lake Orion, MI Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 03-16-2020 11:49 AM
Wow, that launch day broadcast appears to be a straight copy from the CBS two-inch quad color network videotape! Really outstanding quality and thank you LM-12 for the post link. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-16-2020 02:37 PM
And thank you to Dan Beaumont. After watching the video, I can see why Jack Swigert was standing where he was when this photo was taken.
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thisismills Member Posts: 513 From: Michigan Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 03-21-2020 01:40 PM
I was doing some research on the transfer van and found a few photos of crews walking out that may be helpful for this thread. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-22-2020 09:58 PM
Thanks for those links. Interesting to see walkouts from a different camera angle, like the Apollo 16 shot. |
thisismills Member Posts: 513 From: Michigan Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 04-05-2020 07:06 PM
A series of photos from the Apollo 14 walkout taken from a side angle.
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 04-05-2020 07:48 PM
I wonder if that is a pedestrian crossing sign or an "astronaut crossing" sign behind Shepard in the first photo. |
heng44 Member Posts: 3701 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 04-06-2020 12:45 PM
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LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 09-27-2020 12:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Tom: The only "hugs" I can remember with Apollo crew walkouts are Gene Cernan on Apollo 10 (astronaut secretary)...
Apollo 10 photo 69-H-801 has this caption: Apollo 10 Commander Thomas P. Stafford pats nose of "Snoopy," mission mascot, held by Jamye Flowers, astronaut Gordon Cooper's secretary, as crew walks along hallway to transfer van for trip to Kennedy Space Center, Launch Complex 39B. Jamye Flowers (Coplin) talks about the Apollo 10 crew walkout in this JSC Oral History Project interview in 2008: The crew were suited up and were coming back down the hallway [as] I was standing at the door of the crew quarters just inside with the Snoopy in my [arms]. Just right at the last minute Dave McBride gave me a push, and I ended up out in the hallway.Stafford was right there, and he stopped briefly and patted Snoopy’s nose. That was a picture that defined that mission. Ended up doing so. I think Captain Young patted him when he went by. Out of the corner of my eye I could see Captain Cernan heading in my direction, and he was a man on a mission at that point. So I knew that I was in trouble. But he came and instead of patting Snoopy on the nose, he turned the prank into a gotcha on me, because he grabbed me and Snoopy and tried to get us in the elevator. So it ended up being that he was going to take Snoopy and me to the Moon if he could. But the picture itself was just—when you see Apollo 10, that’s the one everyone thinks about. Tom Stafford still says that that is one of his, if not his favorite photo. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 09-28-2020 03:22 AM
Coplin mentions in the interview that the astronauts were placed into "five flights" with Carpenter the chief of Flight A, Cooper the chief of Flight B, Grissom the chief of Flight C, McDivitt the chief of Flight D, and Schirra the chief of Flight E.Young was in Flight E. Armstrong and Aldrin were in Flight A. Into which "flights" were the other astronauts placed? |
Marc05A Member Posts: 40 From: Reims, France Registered: May 2009
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posted 09-29-2020 04:48 AM
This is the Astronaut Office organization as of October 5th 1967.
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Skylon Member Posts: 319 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 09-29-2020 07:36 AM
That is a fascinating organizational document. A few quick observations: - In spite of being on the "outs" with NASA brass, Gordo Cooper was still given leadership responsibilities within the Astronaut Office.
- Flight C led by Jim Lovell, seems to be primarily made up of Group 4 and 5 Astronauts (excluding Dick Gordon - was he the equivalent of the XO?) - Coincidence?
- Flight D is the only flight that contains a complete prime crew pre-Apollo 1 - McDivitt, Scott and Schweickart - still no doubt pointed at the first lunar module flight.
- Flight F is obviously the 1967 Astronaut Group - interesting that Karl Heinze was its chief. No doubt owing to his seniority as a scientist, yet he along with Tony England would be the last of his group to fly.
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Henry Heatherbank Member Posts: 317 From: Adelaide, South Australia Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 09-29-2020 08:50 AM
That’s a fairly rudimentary list in the sense that it is divided up exactly alphabetically, aside from Flight F which, as has been noted, is the 1967 Excess-11 scientist astronaut group.I guess Lovell got the leadership of Flight C (formerly Grissom because) of tragic circumstances, |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 09-29-2020 08:52 AM
An interesting look at the inner workings of the Astronaut Office from both the interview and the document.Coplin also mentions that Young became the chief of Flight B after Apollo 10.
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Henry Heatherbank Member Posts: 317 From: Adelaide, South Australia Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 09-29-2020 08:57 AM
That’s a fairly rudimentary list in the sense that it is divided up exactly alphabetically, aside from the leaders and Flight F which, as has been noted, is the 1967 Excess-11 scientist astronaut group. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 09-30-2020 12:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by LM-12: The Apollo 13 astronauts can be seen arriving at Pad 39A and entering the Egress Door of the Mobile Launcher in this video
There is a short film clip of the crew at 23:45 that looks like it was taken at the same time as photo KSC-70PC-73 near the pad. Lovell is wearing his red stripes, and the three astronauts can be seen walking toward the crew transfer van.The CDDT was in late March. The photo is dated April 6, 1970. Those look like training suits. Were they suited up at the pad just for a photo shoot? |
heng44 Member Posts: 3701 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 09-30-2020 01:32 PM
During the CDDT on March 26 Lovell wore a suit with the Apollo 13 emblem and the red stripes were located above his elbows. In the crew photo-op on April 6 his suit didn't have the emblem and the red stripes were lower on his arms.It was raining during the CDDT. The crew was in the simulator at KSC on April 6 and probably went out to the pad to get the traditional crew shot in front of the Saturn, which apparently wasn't possible on March 26. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 09-30-2020 02:20 PM
Thanks for the additional details, Ed. That photo shoot of the Apollo 13 crew at the pad is an in interesting one. Lots of info there when you dig. |
Delta7 Member Posts: 1746 From: Bluffton IN USA Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 09-30-2020 05:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by LM-12: ...astronauts were placed into "five flights"
What was the purpose of these groups? |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 08-18-2021 09:00 AM
The Apollo 8 crew can be seen entering the Mobile Launcher Egress Door at 2:09 in this video. The picture quality is not good. Hard to tell who is who. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 08-19-2021 01:01 PM
Unusual to see an astronaut (looks like Lovell in the clip) opening the Egress Door. You usually see someone else opening doors for the astronauts during a walkout. Perhaps a suit tech was supposed to exit the elevator first to open the door for the Apollo 8 astronauts. A suit tech opened the Egress Door for the Apollo 13 astronauts. |
LM-12 Member Posts: 3853 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 11-16-2022 09:56 AM
Apollo 17 crew walkout photo for the CDDT on November 21, 1972. |