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Lunar_module_5
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posted 09-05-2008 06:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the recent film "In the Shadow of the Moon" there is launch footage of a Saturn V which shows the interstage between the first and second stage falling away and the launch escape tower being jettisoned from Long Range Cameras.

This footage was also used on the CBS Man on the Moon video of a few years ago.

It's the only footage I have seen of this event by the long range cameras (unless someone knows of others). Question I have is...

Which mission is it from? Is it on any other DVD/video?

mark plas
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posted 09-06-2008 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the footage is from one of the unmanned flights of the Saturn V.

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posted 09-06-2008 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many long range camera shots of staging and tower jettison, from several missions and from several angles.

I believe there are a few on our Saturn V set, but it is out of stock at the present time.

The best shots from the camera pods of the S-1C/S-II staging are from AS-501/Apollo 4. There are two angles, one shot from the "top" of the stage (in relation to the Earth) and one on the "bottom." Both of these are on our Saturn V DVD set, in their entirety.

Lunar_module_5
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posted 09-07-2008 05:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Saturn V sets you produced and I agree that the footage you described is very good.

The footage I am looking for shows the interstage and LES jettison from the long range cameras. It is the clearest view I have seen (not obscured by cloud, etc.) and clearly shows the two events.

I have all but the Apollo 14 SCF set and I have looked through the SCF DVDs which show a Saturn V launch but cannot find it in any of them. Unless of course... its from Apollo 14!

Here's hoping for some more help!

BA002
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posted 10-12-2008 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BA002   Click Here to Email BA002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked a similar question in the thread about the Discovery Channel documentary "When We Left Earth". In episode 3 of WWLE there is a short sequence of the actual moment of interstage separation, also from a long range camera, this could be from the same or a similar source as the sequence in "In the Shadow of the Moon" but a few seconds earlier.

I do have the Apollo 14 SCF DVD and I just watched that, just to be sure, but it's definitely not on that one, in fact the Saturn disappears into clouds pretty quickly.

I have watched a number of other launches, including those on The Mighty Saturns DVD and so far I haven't found the source of these two sequences, which are both indeed the clearest images of these events I have seen so far. Comparing them to the footage that I do have on DVD I'm inclined to say that they must be from an aircraft, given the relative size and the angle of the image of the vehicle and its clarity.

Regards, Leo Bakker

BA002
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posted 10-12-2008 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BA002   Click Here to Email BA002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just did a search of the forum, should have started out with that of course, didn't find the answer though but I did find one more description of what I think is the same sequence, this time as bonus material for the movie "The Dish".

Given the fact that these images show up all the time, you'd hope that someone would know their source...

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posted 10-12-2008 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could probably locate the precise camera and mission you are referencing, but I don't know exactly what shot you are after.

There are many Saturn V shots that I have that did not make it on any of our DVD sets. There are many of them that show very clear views of S-IC/S-II separation.

Most likely the shot is from either Apollo 8, 11, 12, with an outside shot at 13. I say this based upon which launch footage has been most recently transferred, and what material has been transferred in HD.

On our Apollo 8 set there is a tracking shot that shows the separation very clearly. There are 3 tracking angles on the Apollo 8 set. Angle 3 seems to fit your description closely. Angle 2 shows staging very well, but the camera then follows the S-IC.

Keep in mind shots can be resized, and we keep all of our stuff as was originally shot, so it may not match in aspect precisely, but may be the same shot.

BA002
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posted 10-13-2008 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BA002   Click Here to Email BA002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how to make screenshots from my DVD's so I literally took screen shots with my photo camera. Hope it is still clear enough to show some detail.

First a shot from "WWLE", including a short course in Dutch language.

This shows the interstage falling away. I compared this to the Apollo 8 angle 3 and while I agree that the first stage separation is clear on that one, the interstage can not be seen as clearly as in the above sequence.

Then two shots from "In the Shadow of the Moon", first of stage separation and the next of what appear to be the interstage and LET falling away.

I hope it makes any sense.

Lunar_module_5
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posted 10-15-2008 05:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup Leo...that is the footage I was referring to! Now which mission is it?!

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