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mark plas
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posted 09-07-2006 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Dutch and Belgium readers does anybody know what kind of Apollo capsule it was that Chriet Titulear (a Dutch space journalist) bought for $1? Was it really an unfinished capsule or a boilerplate model?

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posted 09-08-2006 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it was a boilerplate and only the outer shell of it. And they put it upside-down on the display!

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posted 09-09-2006 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it was a real one, at least that was what it sounded like reading his story. He paid one dollar but he had to arrange the shipping and stuff like that. He sold it not too long ago for $30,000.

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posted 09-20-2006 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bram   Click Here to Email Bram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also saw that capsule. It was at the exhibition SPACE 86 in Utrecht, The Netherlands. A couple of months ago, I found an old picture of that capsule I took in that year.

From the outside, it looked like a real capsule. No idea if it was a real one or a boilerplate.

Recently, I send an email to Mrs. Titulaer, but she did not reply.

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posted 09-20-2006 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katabatic   Click Here to Email katabatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, stable 2... Time to pop the airbags!

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posted 09-20-2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo shell looks like a block 2 type. I wonder if this is CM 102, which according to the National Air and Space Museum was scrapped.

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posted 09-21-2006 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sure is great to see a picture of that event back in 1986.

I was there as a 11 year old with my father May 10th 1986 but strangely I don't have a single picture of that day. This day would also remain in my mind as the last thing I ever did with my father because May 12th 1986 he died of a heart attack.

About the capsule it sure looks like a block 2 and this capsule stood in Chriet Titulaer's backyard for years.

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posted 09-22-2006 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bram   Click Here to Email Bram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be nice if we could somehow find out what capsule we see in the previous picture. Is it really the scraped CM 102? Anybody any ideas?

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posted 09-23-2006 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In an interview, Titulaer said that he first spotted the unfinished capsule sitting in a corner of the Rockwell plant. For fun he remarked that he would give $1 for it. Well he could have the capsule for a dollar, but he had to arrange everything to get it to Holland.

It was too big for a 747 so it was shipped and placed in his garden where it stood for years until a Japanese man bought it.

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posted 10-13-2006 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk   Click Here to Email Dirk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received an answer from Chriet Titulaer. The capsule he had was the unfinished Apollo 21 CM, 22 and 23 should still be at the Rockwell Factory.

He sold his CM to a Japanese company.

He isn't doing very well at the moment.

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posted 10-13-2006 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To my knowledge, there were never any Apollo spacecraft designated for Apollo 21, 22, and 23. In fact, I think only Apollo 21 got any discussion at NASA (as perhaps a lunar polar orbit mission or some other lunar mission under the Apollo Applications Program).

Maybe he meant CM 121 instead. According to the website, "A Field Guide to American Spacecraft," block 2 Apollo spacecraft were designated from 101 to 119.

My volumes of The Apollo Spacecraft - A Chronology make no mention of any Apollo spacecraft beyond CSM 119. Maybe fabrication began for 120-123 before they were cancelled.

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posted 11-08-2011 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the comment I received from a NASA 'old timer' when he was shown the photo.
The photo of the upside down CM could be the Apollo 20 CM. I found a reference that "Apollo 20's CSM was never completed and was scrapped", and all other production CM's are basically accounted for. And I see enough evidence that the CM in the photo could be a production-line vehicle - RCS panels, Sea-anchor loop, holes in the heat shield in right pattern to attach aft heat shield, color of ablation material is correct, etc. (It's odd to see it sitting upside down without the forward tunnel!)
So, there you have it! Not a boilerplate but a production article.

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posted 11-08-2011 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the ablative material has been installed on this CM. This is how the flight vehicle shell would look before heat shield installation (although it looks as though it has some corrosion or discoloration in the photo).

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posted 11-08-2011 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tfrielin   Click Here to Email tfrielin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CSM 115-A was partially completed and later, reportedly scrapped. Maybe this is it?

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posted 11-08-2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
115A "tops" the Saturn V on display here at Johnson Space Center.

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posted 11-08-2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tfrielin   Click Here to Email tfrielin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, where is 115 then? Is that one accounted for?

119 is at the Saturn V Museum at KSC. Haven't researched this since the late '90s (Google "Frieling" and "Skylab B" to get a Googledocs copy of my article on this with a Saturn/CSM surplus hardware list as known at the time).

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posted 11-08-2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to A Field Guide to American Spacecraft, 115 was only the service module and 115A was only the command module.

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