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Topic: Getting 'Kodak Paper' NASA photos signed
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dwager
Member Posts: 100
From: Augusta, GA
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted 05-07-2019 05:40 PM
   
I have a few red serial numbered photos printed on "A Kodak Paper." I think they're great, simply as space history/photo history...Been thinking of getting Frank Borman to sign one from Apollo 8 if he comes back to Novaspace this year. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether you should get these beautiful old photos signed? If so, with what pen? |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3180
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 05-08-2019 05:35 AM
In pure monetary terms a Borman signed photo or litho is not going to have huge resale value today, no matter what the format.The value of a vintage Apollo 8 photo is going to depend on the subject matter. In my opinion a vintage Earthrise photo, or any really nice photo of the moon or Earth from Apollo 8, is going to worth more unsigned than signed by Borman. On the other hand a photo of the crew, or of the Saturn V on the launchpad might be worth a little more with a Borman signature than without. |
desey9
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Registered: Sep 2017
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posted 05-08-2019 08:25 AM
That's quite an interesting opinion. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4445
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-08-2019 08:59 AM
Period red serial number classic images can command big money at auction. I'd imagine the purist that collects such would see a single modern signature as a potential devalution of the original piece. I agree a Borman signature would add little if the intention is to sell the piece. If your intention is to keep it, then that should be worth more to you personally than in purely monetary terms. If in doubt leave well alone. |
dwager
Member Posts: 100
From: Augusta, GA
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted 05-08-2019 09:10 AM
Thanks for the input. I was also thinking I might just frame it with a cut autograph. |
MartinAir
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Registered: Oct 2020
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posted 03-04-2022 07:40 PM
Revisiting this 2019 thread, what about official vintage NASA photo presentations on a mat board with a photo unsigned and intact but with the mat board nicely signed and inscribed? In my opinion, definitely value added, even for purists, right? |
NicDavies
Member Posts: 42
From: Tobermory, Argyll, Scotland
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted 03-09-2022 04:24 AM
It would probably depend how the photo had been mounted. If it's been dry-mounted in some way then I suspect it would be considered significantly devalued by photography collectors. But clearly, having a separately annotated and signed outer mount (or separate piece such as a cut autograph) is a much better way of doing things. |
MartinAir
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posted 03-09-2022 07:24 AM
Thank you for reply. I had an official NASA presentation like the one below in mind. The mat board even has a stamped NASA photo ID number on reverse. I'd say a signed/inscribed one is more valuable.  |
NicDavies
Member Posts: 42
From: Tobermory, Argyll, Scotland
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted 03-09-2022 11:11 AM
Others may disagree, but if you wish to maintain the 'value' of a collectable photograph in such a presentation, then it's important to assess how the aperture of the mount may impact on the integrity of the photograph. You may be mounting the photograph on the backboard in a conservation friendly manner, but if the front mount's inner borders impinge on the photograph you may risk an uneven ageing of the piece caused mainly by light.I don't actually know whether UV protective glass is 100% effective at stopping such damage. Perhaps others on here have more experience of the long term effectiveness of such framing? |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4445
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-09-2022 01:02 PM
In my experience UV protective glass is at best only moderately successful. Exposed to direct sunlight and UV damage will occur for sure all be it at a reduced level. |
MartinAir
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posted 03-09-2022 01:13 PM
To clarify, the photo is already mounted on the mat board. In my case, also the Blue Marble signed and inscribed by Gene Cernan. I was surprised to learn that an autograph can negatively affect value of a photo and was curious whether same applies to these kinds of presentations. I don't display my original photos. |
NicDavies
Member Posts: 42
From: Tobermory, Argyll, Scotland
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted 03-10-2022 05:05 AM
Ah OK, I had misunderstood your query. I thought you just had an unmounted photo and were considering what to do with it.Again I'm not sure, but if it's already dry mounted (rather than hung) I suspect the photograph may have lost a fair amount of its value as a stand-alone photograph. The bulk of the value then resides with its association with the astronauts concerned and how they've signed and annotated it. With my caveats above regarding mounting and framing in mind, I really do think the best option is to leave any photograph well alone and let the mount(s) do all the work. It would certainly be interesting/instructive to research the difference in value between e.g. a red number 'Earthrise' fully signed by the Apollo 8 crew and the same photo with no such addition. Or a fully signed and unsigned red number 'Visor'. Although I suspect such comparisons might serve only to muddy the waters! quote:
Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
In my experience UV protective glass is at best only moderately successful.
Thanks Rick, that's helpful. I'm intending to put together a few presentations with valuable images and had wondered just how effective anti-UV glass actually is. Maybe it's just a bad idea. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4445
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-10-2022 05:31 AM
For what it's worth, I've used UV glass on several framed pieces of my own, but each is then hung on a stair well or the loft: where there is little daylight and certainly zero direct sunlight.Belt and braces you might say.  |
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