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hbw60
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posted 02-16-2019 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was on eBay recently and I happened to see a fragment of film that was said to have come from Apollo 12. It came on a card signed by John W Holland, who worked for the film development portion of NASA. The aging of the tape seems to imply that it hasn't been tampered with.

I'm still new to this hobby, so normally I'd ask around here first. But the price was so low that I didn't want to risk losing it, so I purchased it. Do any of you have an opinion on it? Has anyone seen one like this before? And does it seem authentic?

Thank you for your help!

Tom
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posted 02-16-2019 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure of its authenticity. However, the Lunar Module was Intrepid on Apollo 12. Yankee Clipper was the CSM.

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posted 02-17-2019 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good catch! I can't decide whether that affects my opinion regarding its authenticity. Part of me thinks that Mr. Holland would know not to make that mistake. But another part of me thinks that in a quick moment of typing a message on a typewriter, it's one of those things a person can do without paying attention. Also, if someone on the outside was forging it, they'd be more likely to have to look up the names of the craft/crew, making it more likely they'd get it correct. Switching the names almost seems more likely from someone who already knows them all, and just didn't think twice while typing it out.

For me, the biggest evidence of authenticity will be the signature. The card is clearly old enough to be from that era. So if the signature checks out, I think it'll be very convincing. But finding another may be a long shot. He wasn't someone in the public eye. And the seller of this item claimed to be his son, so it's possible that these weren't widely handed out. The seller seemed perfectly trustworthy, but you can never be certain with online purchases.

Anyway, thanks again for your reply! The ambiguity remains, but I'm happy to get any details I can.

stsmithva
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posted 02-17-2019 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In an effort to avoid cleaning the house, I looked around online for a few minutes and found Holland's oral history interview in PDF form.

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posted 02-17-2019 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr Holland's oral history interview was an interesting read. Enjoyed this a lot!!

hbw60
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posted 02-17-2019 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for finding that interview! It's a fantastic read, and it makes my card even more special to me, now that I can see his role more clearly defined. It really means a lot to me, and I appreciate the time you took to help me with this!

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posted 02-17-2019 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So TWO respected cS members have told me that I should always avoid cleaning the house. I bow to your wisdom!

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posted 02-17-2019 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hbw60   Click Here to Email hbw60     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the pursuit of scientific education must always be the first priority.

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