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Daugherty54
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posted 03-14-2018 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the dots represent the abrupt stops of an autopen in this signature? I'm trying to learn to detect these.

MrSpace86
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posted 03-14-2018 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, legit autograph. It's not shaky nor does it match any of the known autopen patterns for Conrad.

Daugherty54
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posted 03-14-2018 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I guess I need to go back to the drawing board as far as trying to evaluate these signatures.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 03-14-2018 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from the use of a paint pen, if you look particularly at the word "Apollo" you can see some light and dark strokes. Had it been autopen, the strokes would be the same and have a flat, drawn appearance.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-14-2018 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The dots in your example are the result of the type of pen that was used. Paint markers tend to trail paint, such that when a stroke reaches its end, the excess paint pools and forms a dot.

In the case of an autopen, the dot is formed because the pen abruptly stops and pauses on the page when it reaches a stop point on the signature pattern.

Though dots and shaky strokes can be a hint that an autograph might be an autopen, the best way to identify them is to learn the signature patterns. Most astronauts' autopen patterns differ in key ways from their real autographs, whether in the shape of the strokes, the inclusion of an initial or their overall appearance.

With enough familiarization, you will find that many autopens stand out like a sore thumb.

randyc
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posted 03-14-2018 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When trying to determine if a signature is an autopen I suggest using the Internet by searching for "astronaut autopen." There are a couple of websites that have examples of the various autopens used for an astronaut and are a good resource to use to distinguish an autopen signature from a non-autopen signature.

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