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Michael1976
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posted 04-08-2013 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael1976   Click Here to Email Michael1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feel sorry for the person getting ripped off by this Neil Armstrong signed dollar...

capoetc
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posted 04-08-2013 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the auction description: "Autograph was obtained and signed in person at the Centennial Of Flight Exhibition in 2003 at the Rockefeller plaza..."

And from a first-hand account from a cS member of the CoF celebration at Rockefeller Plaza: "All in all a great day, and although approaching him was impossible, I will at least remember having heard Armstrong speak, at least once..."

I'm guessing Armstrong did not sign many things at this event in 2003... not to mention, the signature itself is quite horrid.

Tykeanaut
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posted 04-08-2013 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately I never did get a Neil Armstrong autograph thru' the mail when I could have.

This is a regret I have but personally I would never pay "big bucks" for one now due to the vast number of forgeries out there.

bwhite1976
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posted 04-08-2013 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bwhite1976   Click Here to Email bwhite1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my, that has to be one of the worst forgieries I have seen of Armstrong's autograph. Is the entire name even an inch long on that dollar bill? It is so small. That needs to be reported and removed off of eBay before someone wastes their money.

rgarner
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posted 04-08-2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One step ahead of you.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 04-08-2013 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's something to think about:

Based on what I've read, the series on a dollar bill gets a new letter when there's a new treasurer of the US (a new year is for a new Secretary of the Treasurer).

In this case, the signature on the left is of Anna Escobedo Cabral who became treasurer in 2005. However, Rosario Marin resigned as treasurer in June 2003, and Cabral was acting treasurer following that.

For those in the know, could 2003A series bills have been printed and circulated between June 2003 and Armstrong's appearance in August? Supposedly, 2003A series $2 bills were issued in 2006....

Michael1976
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posted 04-09-2013 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael1976   Click Here to Email Michael1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like his item was removed and then he relished it..

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YankeeClipper
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posted 04-09-2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, looks like a new eBayer is about to get stung...

Steve Zarelli
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posted 04-09-2013 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you love it when a seller is an obvious liar? "This autograph is a 100% authentic as it was obtained by ME IN PERSON." (In 2003, no less.)

Shameless.

By the way, the three day auction is a common tactic to "fly under the radar" to avoid being removed by eBay.

Besixdouze
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posted 04-09-2013 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YankeeClipper:
Hmmm, looks like a new eBayer is about to get stung...
In my opinion, this looks like another example of the type of fraudulent bidding activity highlighted in an earlier thread so I'm not feeling too sorry for this bidder.

fredtrav
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posted 04-09-2013 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Item has been removed by eBay.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-09-2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted above, it has been relisted.

Steve Zarelli
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posted 04-09-2013 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gone again. Anyone want to take odds on a third appearance?

Michael1976
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posted 04-10-2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael1976   Click Here to Email Michael1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Third time is a charm? It's been Re-listed...

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Steve Zarelli
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posted 04-10-2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But now it has a worthless COA signed by Mike somebody!

Since the last time the auction was removed by eBay, the seller must have gone out and gotten some fancy paper to print that COA up. LOL

Steve Zarelli
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posted 04-11-2013 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pointed the seller to this thread and here is his response:

"Check it out. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ I got a legit COA and ebay said that was good enough and all I needed! So good-luck getting my listing removed again. Your a joke, so is your collect space. You should get a real hobby like a LIFE, instead of talking bout other people. Stop harassing me. God bless tho :-)"

Don't you love fake sellers who end their message with a deceitful "God Bless"? Shameful.

bwhite1976
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posted 04-11-2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bwhite1976   Click Here to Email bwhite1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So he has fabricated a COA to prove his forged autograph is authentic. I don't which is funnier the autograph or the COA.

Saturn V
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posted 04-11-2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saturn V     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Zarelli:
But now it has a worthless COA signed by Mike somebody!
The name is Michael Canivino I think. Canivino Memorabilia? The COA has pretty colors and designs... it must be real!

YankeeClipper
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posted 04-11-2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh and guess what?

Our mystery new bidder is back and willing to pay $300 this time.

Anyone got the cyber equivalent of a wooden stake or a silver bullet to finally slay this auction?

YankeeClipper
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posted 04-11-2013 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Complaint to eBay on grounds of defacement/disfigurement of US currency?

United States Code
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 17 - COINS AND CURRENCY
§ 333. Mutilation of national bank obligations

I'd argue that with a forgery that shocking, this Federal Reserve Note is defaced. Maybe the threat of a call to the local field office of US Secret Service might be sufficient to dissuade a relist.

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