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Topic: Harmer Schau: "Phases of the Moon" flown cover
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NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 312
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 07-31-2012 05:16 PM
   
The upcoming Harmer Schau auction lists a Herrick "Phases of the Moon" envelope that the auction house claims flew to the Moon. What are your thoughts? |
yeknom-ecaps
Member Posts: 660
From: Northville MI USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 07-31-2012 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by NAAmodel#240:
the auction house claims flew to the Moon.
Not quite. But... the description describes the covers flown to the moon including the 8 cent stamps, but this description doesn't match to the cover pictured. Confusing at best to any one reviewing the lot... plus a flown to the moon cover would be worth a lot more than the EV listed. No Herrick covers flown to the moon have KSC launch cancels.On the other hand, it IS a phases of the moon cover from Herrick thus created in a very limited number and the printed insert does talk about covers taken to the moon, etc. so it is worth more than the typical Apollo 15 signed cover. Here is a cS discussion of the cover in the auction. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2914
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 07-31-2012 09:19 PM
No, this particular type of cover did not fly to the moon; see my posting on the link provided above.I believe that Florida stamp dealer Herrick provided a number of these additional "15 Phases of the Moon" cachet covers as a public relations ploy.
The provided insert card and letter copy from Worden do not help certify in anyway that "this particular" cover type in reference to did in fact fly to the moon. I'll even go a step further and imply that even the crew signatures on the cover are a mystery and that would present another story. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 691
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 08-01-2012 03:29 AM
Ken, thank you for explanation. The VIC KSC machine cancellation proves that this very cover was not flown on Apollo 15. This postmark does not appear on any flown cover. |
yeknom-ecaps
Member Posts: 660
From: Northville MI USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 08-01-2012 02:37 PM
I have contacted the auction house about this cover and included the cS thread in the post above. They responded that the lot was withdrawn.David - thanks for bringing up this discussion! |
yeknom-ecaps
Member Posts: 660
From: Northville MI USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 08-01-2012 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
I'll even go a step further and imply that even the crew signatures on the cover are a mystery and that would present another story.
Ken - why are the signatures a mystery? |
Tallpaul
Member Posts: 153
From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 08-01-2012 03:16 PM
I am also curious to know what folks think about lot #637, the signed postcard from Soyuz 11. I have always understood that cosmonauts very rarely signed items before a mission was completed. Consequently, signed Soyuz 11 items are extremely rare to non-existent. Having been burned by a Russian dealer who sells through auction houses (Forged Gagarin and Tereshkova signatures on the same cover)I am very suspicious of this item. Any thoughts? |
spaceflori
Member Posts: 1499
From: Germany
Registered: May 2000
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posted 08-02-2012 01:15 AM
I personally do NOT believe the Soyus 11 autographs are authentic - that postcard seems to come from a well known "dealer" of such things in Russia. While Dobrowolsky and Patsaev are hard to compare to any authentic samples, the Volkov can be due to his involvement in Soyus 7.
To me the Volkov signature lacks strength, also the Patsaev. I seem to remember that card from eBay or maybe another auction house - if you would inquire I'm sure it can be traced back to a certain source. |
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