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moneyman
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posted 04-27-2004 04:34 PM
   
Hi, my name is Matt Leone, I inherited a few NASA prints from my great Uncle who once worked for NASA. I have contacted NASA about them and they said only one copy of each was created, and they were never to be released to the general public they were Classified at one time, each is approxiamtly worth $50,000. according to my friend in the government. If you are interested in buying one or all please contact me by email: [email protected]
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-27-2004 05:15 PM
Matt, if I may ask a couple of questions:(1) With whom at NASA did you speak? (2) What is the subject of the prints? NASA is a civilian agency. By definition, the photography taken on each mission is public domain. Its possible that you have a print of a photograph that was not selected by public affairs for wide distribution, but that wouldn't equate to the photograph being classified. A picture may be worth a thousand words but rarely is it worth the same in dollars. |
Richard
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posted 04-27-2004 06:13 PM
Are you the same one who is selling the "exceedingly rare" Irwin "originals" for $12K on ebay? |
moneyman
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posted 04-28-2004 05:50 PM
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Are you the same one who is selling the "exceedingly rare" Irwin "originals" for $12K on ebay?
No I am not. |
moneyman
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posted 04-28-2004 05:53 PM
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Matt, if I may ask a couple of questions:(1) With whom at NASA did you speak? (2) What is the subject of the prints? NASA is a civilian agency. By definition, the photography taken on each mission is public domain. Its possible that you have a print of a photograph that was not selected by public affairs for wide distribution, but that wouldn't equate to the photograph being classified. A picture may be worth a thousand words but rarely is it worth the same in dollars.
To your first question I have a college buddy who works there, for many years. He has seen the prints and knows what he is talking about.
To your second question some of them are prints of certain concepts, of a shuttle in action. They are printed from the 70's. The starting bid is $1,000. if you are interested.
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dave
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posted 04-28-2004 06:58 PM
I have many different NASA prints from the late 1970's showing concepts of a shuttle in "action"...and the starting bid is 10p......what is so special about these prints you have?? what size are they for example,can you scan them? |
Rizz
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posted 04-28-2004 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by moneyman:
...they were never to be released to the general public they were Classified at one time, each is approxiamtly worth $50,000. according to my friend in the government.
Classified SECRET ? How would he know that a declassifdied print was worth $50K, unless he's sold declass prints in the past. Boris & Natasha come to mind. Between your college buddy at NASA and your friend in the government combined with the fact that you want people to bid on prints of an unknown nature, I wish you much luck. I hope that your two friends reminded you to have all of your 'downgrading' papers in order prior to selling these once 'classified' prints. Seriously - good luck
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moneyman
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posted 04-29-2004 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by dave:
I have many different NASA prints from the late 1970's showing concepts of a shuttle in "action"...and the starting bid is 10p......what is so special about these prints you have?? what size are they for example,can you scan them?
The size is a little bigger than paper measurments. I've been told that these were the only ones in exsistance, only one per each were created. I can scan them and send them to you. |
dave
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posted 04-29-2004 01:46 PM
Thanks,i would love to see a scan of even one of them! |
Richard
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posted 04-29-2004 01:47 PM
The problem is that if you scan them, then everyone will then have access. You are saying that they are valuable because no one has seen these rare gem. You're in a fix. Noone will buy without seeing them first, but if you let people see them, they will no longer be rare and the value will go down. What to do, what to do... |
James Brown
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posted 04-29-2004 01:55 PM
This guy can't be for real.  James
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Philip
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posted 04-29-2004 02:31 PM
Always check the number of replies of a collectSpace forum member ... nothing against newbies though but eyebrows raised when these only check the forum to sell RARE stuff... Up to them to make their point! |
ALAIN
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posted 04-29-2004 02:59 PM
You never know though! |
moneyman
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posted 04-29-2004 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by dave:
Thanks,i would love to see a scan of even one of them!
Would you be interested in buying one |
nasamad
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posted 04-29-2004 04:26 PM
Why make just one print of a piece of classified artwork, whats the point ? Why not just show the people the original artwork ! Sorry pal, but I personally don't buy this story (or the prints !) Adam |
DGeraths
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posted 04-29-2004 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by moneyman:
Hi, my name is Matt Leone, I inherited a few NASA prints from my great Uncle who once worked for NASA. I have contacted NASA about them and they said only one copy of each was created, and they were never to be released to the general public they were Classified at one time, each is approxiamtly worth $50,000. according to my friend in the government. If you are interested in buying one or all please contact me by email: [email protected]
Matt: I have a one of a kind Revell Shuttle Model. Only one of these was built by me and at one time I had it in my closet, hidden from the world, you might say... classified.
I know it is worth at least a cool million... wanna trade? (Add a HUGE amount of sarcasm to the above statement...) :^) Dana ------------------
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Richard
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posted 04-29-2004 05:27 PM
I just found an envelope in the back portion of my basement. It is marked "important" and is sealed! There is NO TELLING what is inside! I could be worth millions!I will start the bidding at $1000. |
dave
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posted 04-29-2004 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by moneyman:
Would you be interested in buying one
I would like to see what they are? as many have said you cannot expect anybody to bid on something as yet unseen and unlikely as this sounds?
Would you if this was reversed?
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spaced out
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posted 04-30-2004 04:17 AM
Matt,You must surely have noticed from reading the comments here that many people reading your posts suspect you are either trying a rather simple scam, or you're just playing a silly joke. Assuming that's not the case - I'm sure it must be nice to believe that these prints you've inherited are somehow worth a fortune and that you will immediately become filthy rich by selling them, but surely you must have some doubts about it? Have you ever heard of prints like this selling for tens of thousand of dollars? Can your 'friend in the government' who 'knows what he's talking about' give you one actual example of a once-classified NASA print from the 70s being sold for $50,000, or even for $5,000? When he provides you with this example can you post a link the news story or auction results here for us? Finally, even if your friend does actually know of a print like this having been sold for thousands of dollars, do you really expect someone to buy such a thing from you without actually seeing it? Would you bid money on a picture without even having seen it? No? Then why expect others to do so? |
Scott
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posted 04-30-2004 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Richard:
I just found an envelope in the back portion of my basement. It is marked "important" and is sealed! There is NO TELLING what is inside! I could be worth millions!I will start the bidding at $1000.
Richard, you take Paypal? |
tfetner
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posted 04-30-2004 05:39 PM
Richard,I'll see Scott's PayPal and raise with a "Blue Sky" American Express! |
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posted 04-30-2004 06:49 PM
Attention Fox and Dana .Sounds like a great bargain to me !! "The TRUTH is out there" I guess ? I will contact my friends at the FBI's "X-Files Unit" and see what they say. Fox Mulder and Dana Scully should be interested ! The FBI might be interested and they have deep pockets....lots of money too. Rotsa Ruck Compadre !!....Donald Brady[This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited April 30, 2004).] |
TRS
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posted 04-30-2004 11:15 PM
Rizz -I'm probably asking an old question, but who are Boris & Natasha?Just curious Cheers Craig from Auckland |
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posted 05-01-2004 12:11 AM
Craig.....Boris and Natasha were cartoon spies on the "Rocky & Bullwinkle" cartoon show of the 1960's. These inept Soviet spies were a husband and wife team. Boris Badenoof (Bad-Enough) and his wife Natasha.Boris and Natasha were constantly trying to foil our heroes Rocky The Flying Squirril and Bullwinkle The Moose (graduate of that world famous institute of higher learning "Whossattamatta U." )Great stuff indeed ! All us children of the 1960's remember fondly.....Donald Brady[This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited May 01, 2004).] [This message has been edited by [email protected] (edited May 01, 2004).] |
Rizz
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posted 05-01-2004 03:04 AM
Thanks Donald. Too funny!And Craig, check em out, Boris & Natasha - with a NASA spy...
http://198.65.141.42/ioa/toon/IOA-Toon-Kaboomski.jpg
...and Bullwinkle & Rocky
http://www.sound-ideas.com/images2/rocandbull.gif
...boy, some of these threads sure take funny turns.
Rizz [This message has been edited by Rizz (edited May 01, 2004).] |
ALAIN
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posted 05-01-2004 05:58 AM
Matt "MoneyMan" Leone ??? |
TRS
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posted 05-02-2004 12:22 AM
Thanks guysmy education has now been upgraded! ...have you heard of "Footrot Flats" by any chance? Cheers Craig |
icarkie
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posted 05-02-2004 05:39 AM
'Footrot Flats'Craig is it some sort B/W cat/dog ?.
My parents brought back a Tee shirt ( as well as a Auckland rugby union shirt for me as a suprise) some years ago with this cat/dog on it, having spent a months holiday in Papatoetoe with my aunty.
all the best
Ian |
TRS
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posted 05-02-2004 05:34 PM
Footrot Flats is an NZ icon about a farmer and his dog. The farmer is Wal but the dog managed to avoid anyone actually revealing his name for over a decade (and we never did find out, even when the strip ended).Craig |
moneyman
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posted 05-03-2004 02:31 PM
Just for everyones information I have sold two of the prints for $25,000. |
DavidH
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posted 05-03-2004 02:37 PM
I would congratulate you, except that, according to your original post, you sold them for only a fourth of what they are worth! Why not hold out for a better offer?------------------
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Richard
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posted 05-03-2004 02:44 PM
Then I would definitely start the bidding on the next ones at $12,500. You better make sure that you retract your previous offer of a starting bid at $1000 and you better hurry before the flurry of bids come in!!! Damn, this must be some SUPER SECRET stuff!  I was wondering. Because these are so secret, when someone does finally dare to look at them, will they quickly dissolve into a skeleton like what happened when people looked in the ark in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? |
James Brown
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posted 05-03-2004 02:48 PM
To who, your imaginary friend ? I find it hard to believe that there is someone out there who bought your story, or your photos. James |
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posted 05-03-2004 03:15 PM
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Just for everyones information I have sold two of the prints for $25,000.
Really?! Ah man... and I missed out... I should have been paying attention to the offer instead of watching the pigs flying around outside my window... ------------------
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Rizz
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posted 05-03-2004 03:18 PM
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Just for everyones information I have sold two of the prints for $25,000.
As I mentioned before, I hope that you included the proper 'downgrading papers' as well as the organization that declassified these prints. I'm certain that you did, since you have advertised this on a public forum and surely wouldn't want the DSA paying you a visit. Well done moneyman. Good luck with the rest of em. |
Shuttlefan
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posted 05-03-2004 03:37 PM
Oh, what a lucky man I am - have got a bunch of these "early shuttle in action" lithos from the 70ies in a drawer. Immediately threw away my job, ordered a Ferrari sports car, booked a trip around the world, bought a new house, 20 carat diamond necklace for my wife. Thanks moneyman for showing me an easy way to make a fortune! Or should I have given a second thought to that....? 
Chris |
DavidH
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posted 05-03-2004 03:49 PM
By the way, Richard, didn't I hear that you'd sold your "secret" envelope from a few posts back for ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!------------------
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posted 05-03-2004 04:32 PM
Moneyman..... You are truly "The Man" if you found a sucker that rich and gullible !! I would love to know who bought the super secret photos ! C'mon tell me....It was Fox Mulder wasn't it ? Tell the guy that bought them that I have a "super secret decoder ring" that I will part with for 20K. If he loved your photos, he cannot live without my Captain Midnight decoder ring !! Then he can decipher the super secret NASA messages that I have !!! The truth is out there and "moneyman" has it ....for a price that is !! I have heard it all now. I am ready to meet my maker!!.....Donald Brady |
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posted 05-03-2004 05:19 PM
Moneyman,If you really have sold two pictures, why can you not post a single image of what you are offering here? You can even post a low-res fuzzy image - after all you don't want to give any secrets away. Alternatively, maybe you could post some of the remaining shots on eBay. That way we can all get a fair chance at bidding. I would suggest you post the items with an image - trying to sell a photo on eBay for $25,000 without showing a picture of it might prove a little difficult, even for you. |
sts205cdr
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posted 05-03-2004 05:28 PM
You know all about making money, don't you Mr. Leone?
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