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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-19-2013 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Space Lectures has announced:
We are pleased to announce that our next event in October will see the visit of Apollo 12 LMP and 4th man to walk on the moon Alan Bean.

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posted 04-19-2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great news, looking forward to it already, always a great guest.

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posted 04-19-2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheque on its way. Nice one!

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posted 04-19-2013 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alan Bean has intimated to Ken that this is likely to be his last visit to the UK; unfortunately a common stance from an an increasing number of Apollo astronauts.

Tickets are on a first come first served basis; in other words, the sooner you book the nearer the front you will be.

Dinner on October 11 will be 7pm at the Wentbridge House Hotel followed by an auction. Tickets £70 each and Alan will sign the professional portrait photos following the meal.

The public lecture will be held at the Carleton Community High School the following day (October 12th) at 4pm followed by a Q&A session and raffle. Tickets for the talk are £50 each but that includes one free autograph on any item be that a book, photo, model or leg.

£110 package ticket covers both events.

There will be a professional photo shoot prior to each event. Photos £20 each.

Ken has been doing his best to keep ticket prices as low as possible but as he himself says, "who ever we get these days, they don't come cheap."

The event is not for profit. Any monies made above and beyond Al's fee, flights and other costs are recylced in to bringing the next guest to Pontefract.

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posted 04-20-2013 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the lecture tickets £50 or £70? Your mail says the former but Ken's emailed poster says the latter.

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posted 04-20-2013 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mail I've had from Ken indicates £70 for dinner tickets and £50 for the public talk.

Personally, if I were to choose one or the other the dinner would swing it for me. The Wentbridge House Hotel is a top venue and the food excellent.

A lot more intimate and a great opportunity to mingle with like minded space nerds.

The photo shoot at the Wentbridge is a more relaxed encounter that affords guests an opportunity to chat with Al in a way they can't prior to the talk at Carleton Community High School.

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posted 04-20-2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robert_l   Click Here to Email robert_l     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking forward to this event when I will have met all three Apollo 12 astronauts. Pete Conrad was the first astronaut I met back in 1979 at the Scottish International Airshow and Dick Gordon last year.

I hope to be wearing my new Apollo 12 kilt, taken them ages to get it made due to the special design which was designed with help from Dick Gordon and Al Bean.

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posted 04-20-2013 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnpslater   Click Here to Email johnpslater     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking forward to this and to seeing Robert's new kilt!

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posted 04-23-2013 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may struggle to get to this one? And I too was looking forward to the kilt unveiling!

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posted 04-23-2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skyguy48   Click Here to Email Skyguy48     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not going to get to the Cape in November. Anyhow, got a real nice couple days with Alan Bean instead. Cheque in Ken's hand tomorrow.

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posted 04-29-2013 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robert_l   Click Here to Email robert_l     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheque is now in the post to Ken. Looking forward to the event.

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posted 04-30-2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnpslater   Click Here to Email johnpslater     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tykeanaut:
I may struggle to get to this one? And I too was looking forward to the kilt unveiling!
You (and lots of people) could regret not attending this!

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posted 05-01-2013 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree and have attended all other events in Pontefract since 2005. However on this occasion I have a very valid reason if I cannot make it.

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posted 05-01-2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest from Ken is that tickets are selling well. 50 for the talk and 23 for the dinner in the first week and many from new faces.

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posted 05-04-2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just noticed the title of the talk, this sounds really good! Glad I booked my place early!

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posted 05-08-2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To date 100 tickets sold for the lecture and 50 for the dinner; better I think at this stage than for Charlie Duke... and he was a sell out!

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posted 05-13-2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tickets for Alan Bean continuing to sell very well. Don't forget guys, £110 will get you the "Golden" ticket for both the dinner AND the lecture, inclusive of a free signature.

Add to that a professional portrait photo (also signed) at the dinner for a further £20, and you would still have change compared to his base signature fee at Spacefest V (and quite possibly Autographica in 2014).

Good value for money in my opinion.

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posted 05-14-2013 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick, am I right in thinking that if you attend the dinner and talk you will get two free autographs? This would really be excellent value!

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posted 05-15-2013 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
James, apologies if I did not make the point as clear as I should have.

The lecture entitles you to one free signature.

The dinner does not, however.... if you pay £20 to the professional photographers attending the dinner (with Alan and an appropriate Apollo 12 themed background) Alan will sign your own personal portrait after dinner at no extra charge.

To summarise; £50 for the public lecture and one free signature, £70 for dinner alone, £110 for dinner, a lecture and one free signature.

£130 for dinner, the lecture with a free signature (on an item of your choice) plus a second signature on a professional photo. So two signatures in total.

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posted 05-18-2013 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good news ladies and gentlemen. Ken tells me guests at the dinner will get a free signature in addition to the free signature at the talk.

Pay £20 at the dinner for a professional photo with Alan and he will sign that too.

Thats dinner, a lecture and three signed photos... all for £130!! Still less than Al's base fee for a single signature at Spacefest.

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posted 05-18-2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Rick. I thought that was the case.

This is incredible value for money! I know Ken keeps costs down to a minimum (and has put is own money in) to enable people to afford to attend these events and they are done so schoolchildren meet Apollo astronauts free with a percentage of profits donated to Unicef! I cannot understand why he hasn't been awarded an MBE at least for everything he has done?

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posted 05-19-2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The highlight for me... of the Al Worden visit to Pontefract in March was the trip to see the Lancaster bomber on the Sunday after the lecture.

I have no say in Ken's plans for Alan Bean's visit in October, but I was wondering what site, event or place would members recommend as a possible additional treat for Al Bean on his visit to Yorkshire in October?

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posted 05-20-2013 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice idea Rick, but within what sort of distance from Pontefract are we limited to?
Can think of several places but most are several hours travel away. The Space Centre at Leicester for example.

On edit - the Battle of Britain flight aircraft are open to the public for inspection at RAF Scampton and there is the De Haviland museum at Salisbury Hall where they are restoring a Mosquito.

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posted 05-20-2013 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point Eddie. This is a purely hypothetical question at this time but for the purposes of the exercise might I suggest an attraction or site within an hours drive of Pontefract.

As far as The Battle of Britain flight goes, my nephew is an officer in the Royal Air Force and he is confident he could arrange such a visit... though I would imagine numbers may be strictly limited.

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posted 05-20-2013 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeilPearson   Click Here to Email NeilPearson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The BBMF are based at Coningsby, not Scampton - still in Lincs but a bit further away. Info here.

They usually have tours Monday through Friday but October is a tricky month. It's after the end of their display season and aircraft are often away for maintenance. That said, they've got a lot of aircraft so there should still be something to see!

Or how about the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington near York? Several aircraft are kept in ground-running order so you may see some movement.

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posted 05-20-2013 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the correction Neil. You are quite correct about the location of The Battle of Britain Flight.

I knew October was out of season so to speak but had presumed any maintenance would have taken place on site.

I take it that is not the case?

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It varies depending on the level of servicing required. A lot of it is done at Coningsby but there is a contract with a civilian company at Duxford which deals with the major servicing. I believe that's mostly (or maybe only?) for the fighters (Spitfires/Hurricanes) so the Lancaster/Dakota should be in residence.

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posted 05-20-2013 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeilPearson:
The BBMF are based at Coningsby, not Scampton - still in Lincs but a bit further away.
I stand corrected. Did know, but Scampton is easier to spell than Coningsby.

I'm sure that Rick's contact could arrange a visit out of season/hours for such a distinguished guest and that Al Bean would appreciate it. It would be worth the extra travel time.

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posted 05-20-2013 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As pointed out the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight are based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire. Currently based there are the Lancaster, two Hurricanes, five Spitfires (they have six but one is away on a major service/refit at Duxford) the Dakota and two Chipmunks.

Perhaps a message to the OC BBMF Sqn Ldr Duncan Mason?

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posted 05-20-2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking of something related to Al's specialty; painting. Naturally I thought of Steve Proctor. But then again Alan's specialty is paint on canvas... not a three-bedroom semi!

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posted 05-20-2013 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So your idea is that Alan Bean comes round and watches me paint my house?

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posted 05-20-2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what price for an Al Bean painted mural on the bedroom wall Steve?

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posted 05-21-2013 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go the whole hog and get him a "flight" (well, a reheat runway run) in the Lightning T.5 at Cranfield. No room for the entourage inside though!

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Surely that would be at least a possibility to get Al Bean on a freebee in a Lightning... The climb rate in that baby is faster than a Saturn V and am positive that would bring a smile to the ol' boy's face.

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Risky... he might draw a lightning strike. (Sorry!)

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posted 05-22-2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's always RAF Cosford where they used to have the one surviving example of the multi-purpose war plane that Britain never built - TSR2.

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posted 05-22-2013 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A further update from Ken with regards what Al Bean will and won't sign on the night of the lecture.

For those who have their photo professionally taken on the night of the lecture for an additional £20, Al will sign both that photo and another of your choice after the lecture.

That may slow the queue down a tad but what the hec. For £70 you will get 2 signed photos and the lecture.

I must re-iterate, one of the pictures must be the guests portrait taken with Al. He will not sign two "conventional" WSS photos for instance.

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posted 05-22-2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As you say Rick, signing two items is going to make for a slow moving queue. Are there any moves that you're aware of to police the crowd better than last time and enforce ticket numbers?

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posted 05-22-2013 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james watt   Click Here to Email james watt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I understanding this right Rick, at the dinner we will get an autograph and signed photo with Capt. Bean and the same at the talk but by attending both events we will only get one autograph at the talk. This really is fantastic value!

What is all this about rubbish about policing? There has never been any 'bun fight' as some people go on about at any of the events in Pontefract I have been to but then again, some people will always find something to moan about instead of being grateful that Ken gives us the opportunity to meet these 'legends' at a reasonable cost!

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posted 05-23-2013 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's NOT a 'bun fight' that people have objected to. It's those that push into the queue near the front to short circuit the time spent waiting patiently that have caused the problems. All the criticisms about the general organisation have been about these 'queue jumpers'.


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