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Topic: 10/19-20: Harrison Schmitt in Pontefract (UK)
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Skyguy48
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posted 05-30-2012 04:30 PM
   
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
If anybody without a cheque book would like to mail him directly he can offer an alternative payment method.
If it's any help to anyone I don't have a cheque book either however I paid Ken by Postal order. |
Blackarrow
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posted 05-30-2012 05:34 PM
I assume postal orders are still measured in groats. |
moorouge
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posted 05-31-2012 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Blackarrow:
I assume postal orders are still measured in groats.
Wouldn't scruples be more appropriate? By the way, it's a common misconception that one needs a cheque book to write a cheque. One can use anything so long as one details the relevant information and wording, e.g. sort code, account number and the amount to be paid. In the past cheques have been written on cows and house bricks. What is Paypal? If it's a friend who will pay all one's bills then I'm in favour and where do I find one? |
Apollo14LMP
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posted 05-31-2012 04:48 AM
Looked at Postal Orders - but how do you encash it if it gets sent back to you?It would be made out to someone else — the payee. Therefore should the event be cancelled then you get back a PO which you cannot cash? Debit cards much simpler... or PayPal. Can I send cash registered? Thanks. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 05-31-2012 05:30 AM
I believe there would be a 12.5% charge for a £60 Postal Order.If uncashed and sent back I presume you would follow the same procedure as you would if it were stolen? There are details on the Royal Mail website for anyone wishing to use this method. |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 05-31-2012 05:47 AM
Good grief! Have I just walked through the cS time portal into the 1970s? Next thing it'll be "can I pay with Green Shield stamps?" |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 05-31-2012 08:04 AM
Contact Ken directly for further payment options. Or get a friend to send the cheque and pay the friend the cash. |
fredtrav
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posted 05-31-2012 09:03 AM
I do not know the procedures in the UK, but if you have a savings account at a bank or a relationship with the bank, then you can get them to issue a bank cheque at least here in the States. Most of the time, there is no charge for that if you bank with them. There is also the option of purchasing travelers cheques. |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 05-31-2012 10:33 AM
Update from Ken regarding Postal Order payments. A question on cS was about Postal Orders. should the event be cancelled then I would cash the PO send a cheque to the payee. Bank transfers are an option but I suspect the banks would add a charge.Registered mail cash too would work... unless Ken tells me otherwise. He is a Magistrate so I'd guess he can be trusted. Hope that helps. |
Apollo14LMP
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posted 05-31-2012 01:09 PM
Thanks - Ken is a great guy - would trust him with my months wages! Just a bit awkward knowing how to send the money really in the absence of cheques.I have run of out of Green Shield stamps  so no longer an option! Thank you for the advice. |
moorouge
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posted 06-02-2012 02:14 AM
What news of the 'on/off' decision? |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-02-2012 03:49 AM
Expecting an update from Ken within the week. The correspondence I had from him yesterday was encouraging, but at this stage, no news is good news! |
crash
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posted 06-02-2012 11:58 AM
Please, pretty please with a cherry on top, if there is anyone out there who hasn't sent in a cheque yet go ahead and do so.This is all for the sake of the children so that we tell them tales of the moonwalker we met. |
Skyguy48
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posted 06-02-2012 05:01 PM
Amen to that Crash!
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Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-03-2012 03:11 AM
More from Ken... the deadline is now Aug. 1st and he is getting lots of requests from groups in the U.S. with it being the 40th anniversary but is looking forward to coming to England.It really is now or never guys! I hope to expand on that news flash in the coming week or so. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 06-03-2012 06:41 AM
I have supported Ken with all his events, but I have to say I feel this is ominous? I really do believe that this should now have been filled or even over-subscribed! |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-03-2012 08:05 AM
It is true, the event has not been the overnight sell-out that many had predicted or expected but I disagree with the view that the August 1st deadline is ominous; quite the contrary.Were ticket sales that bad that there was no chance of the event going ahead Ken would have pulled the plug on June 1st. There are things going on behind the scenes that may relieve the total reliance on ticket sales to help fund the event and are cause for optimism. |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-03-2012 12:53 PM
One consideration as to why the event has not seld out in days would to be the price of a ticket.I work in retail and don't need to be reminded that people don't have as much disposable income these days. But given the 6 months notice already there has been more than enough time to save the necessary funds. |
moorouge
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posted 06-03-2012 02:06 PM
One way of cutting the cost a little bit would be for Ken to persuade Schmitt to sign just one item, be it his book (already owned) or something else. Sixty pounds just to attend a lecture is a bit steep. Add the cost of a book on top just to get a signature makes it even steeper. (To some people who might otherwise attend that is.) |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-03-2012 02:56 PM
I can see your point of view Eddie. But as has already been established people would be more than happy to pay two, three or even four times that amount to go see Neil Armstrong in Pontefract safe in the knowledge that a lecture would be all that they would get for their money. |
johnpslater
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posted 06-03-2012 03:34 PM
How much do people pay to watch a football match? £60 for Jack is well worth it, even if we just hear what he has to say and don't get to meet him. There is an alternative if you don't want to pay £60, go to the States. It will cost a little bit more and you still wont get an autograph! |
David Bryant
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posted 06-03-2012 03:55 PM
While wishing the event all possible success, perhaps we have to acknowledge that the number of people in the UK who have any knowledge of/interest in the events of 1969-1972 is surprisingly small...I have attended many Autographicas, one of Ken's events and several other astronaut encounters: there are usually a high percentage of the same people at them all! Even at the big air shows such as Duxford (where I sell space memorabilia and signed books) my customer base is generally composed of 55+ year-old hard-core enthusiasts like myself, most of whom I see at all similar events. I'm always amazed that Autographica generates bigger queues for some has-been bit-part player in a 40 year-old Bond film than for, say, Al Worden. |
Apollo14LMP
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posted 06-03-2012 04:23 PM
I have to agree with David, and Rick, says it all...Don't know about the cost Buzz Aldrin 2004 and Neil Armstrong Dublin 2003 cost about 400 Euros! Not many empty seats left in the National Concert Hall! |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-03-2012 05:04 PM
Don't forget guys, you will get to meet Schmitt, you will get three autographs and you will get the chance to have a professional photo taken with the man as well.And all around the time of the 40th anniversary of Apollo 17. |
johnpslater
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posted 06-04-2012 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by moorouge:
One way of cutting the cost a little bit would be for Ken to persuade Schmitt to sign just one item, be it his book (already owned) or something else.
At the end of the day some people will be disappointed no matter what he will agree to sign,this is true of all such events as this. I doubt if he would sit there for a few hours signing 400/500 autographs. He will sign copies of his book but the icing on the cake, certainly for me is the photo opportunity with him and for £20 no matter how many people are in it, is fantastic value especially if the family is with you!We are not going to get these opportunities to meet Apollo astronauts much longer so we should support all events that allow us to do so, autographs should not dictate attendance. |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 06-04-2012 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by moorouge:
One way of cutting the cost a little bit would be for Ken to persuade Schmitt to sign just one item, be it his book (already owned) or something else. Sixty pounds just to attend a lecture is a bit steep.
I suspect his pricing is not variable, ie not linked to number of items and it's unreasonable to expect Ken to revert to Schmitt with a revised pricing plan. The book can be bought for a song. For me, the cost of travel "oop north" plus accomodation way outweighs his fee, but it's well worth it as this will be the ninth moonwalker I have met. As someone else said, compared to the cost of seeing 22 spoiled millionaires kicking around a pig's bladder, or a seeing a few prima donna's at the Olympics, this is right-good value!
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Nigel Mc
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posted 06-04-2012 05:43 PM
Just managed to secure another three people for Ken's Schmitt event! He should expect their Cheques soon. The power of advertising in Sheffield |
johnpslater
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posted 06-10-2012 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
As someone else said, compared to the cost of seeing 22 spoiled millionaires kicking around a pig's bladder, or a seeing a few prima donna's at the Olympics, this is right-good value!
This is true! How many people spend hundreds of pounds watching football matches week after week and don't bat an eyelid? Here we have one of only 12 men who have stood on the moon and possibly our only chance of meeting him and people are moaning about the event costing £60. Are the people out there real Apollo enthusiasts or just autograph hunters? |
Tykeanaut
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posted 06-12-2012 06:43 AM
I have now e-mailed Dr. Lucie Green and hope to speak with Dr. Maggie Aderin-Pocock on Saturday. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 06-19-2012 11:45 AM
I also managed to hand a leaflet to Piers Bizony, so maybe they will attend or let others know? |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-19-2012 01:20 PM
All good stuff Chris. Keep it going! |
johnpslater
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posted 06-19-2012 05:09 PM
Everything seems to have gone quiet. Has anyone heard anything about Jack's visit? I sincerely hope that people out there are genuinely interested in the Apollo programme and not merely philographers! |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-19-2012 05:58 PM
Hang in there guys. Ken is working a number of "developments" as we speak. Hope to have more news in the coming days. |
moorouge
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posted 06-20-2012 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by johnpslater:
I sincerely hope that people out there are genuinely interested in the Apollo programme and not merely philographers!
If I knew what a 'philographer' was I'd try hard not to be. Is it a dangerous complaint and catching?  |
johnpslater
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posted 06-20-2012 01:54 AM
Someone who collects autographs. |
spaceman
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posted 06-20-2012 04:41 PM
Anything wrong with being an autograph collector? |
johnpslater
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posted 06-20-2012 04:58 PM
Nothing wrong at all but I would think if you are really interested in the Apollo programme and wanted to meet these men, the fact they won't sign autographs shouldn't be reason not to attend these events. Don't forget he is signing his book, isn't that an autograph? |
fredtrav
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posted 06-20-2012 04:59 PM
Nothing wrong with being an autograph collector. And I suspect if you are on this site, I imagine you are genuinely interested in the various space programs including Apollo.If you are only an autograph collector, than this event is still good for you as Dr. Schmitt will sign a copy(ies) of his book. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 06-21-2012 03:51 AM
Yes signing his book is an autograph, and if you're not an autograph collector you don't have to have one signed. So everyone should be happy? |
moorouge
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posted 06-21-2012 07:24 AM
Philographer - now there's posh. Could it be that Aldrin et al charge more because they are signing for philographers rather than common autograph collectors?And is someone who collects autopens, these being akin to stamps though not the rubber kind, therefore a philatophilographer? |
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