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KenDavis
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posted 06-14-2022 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenDavis   Click Here to Email KenDavis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone help with the use of the blue patch with the red and yellow five point star worn on the centre of the Sokol spacesuit?

Most pictures from the mid to late 90's show this with "Mir" on the patch, which is no surprise, but in some instances cosmonauts are shown with a patch saying "Zvezda."

Once flights to the ISS started the process of wearing patches with Mir or Zvezda seemed to continue with most American or European astronauts wearing a Zvezda patch. Vindogradov, Williams and Pontes (Soyuz TMA-8) all seem to wear Mir patches, but from then on it just about everyone seems to wear a plain patch with no text.

Was the any reason for who wore what and when?

waa49
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posted 06-15-2022 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Possibly the references to various publications under Books about international space patches can help.

waa49
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posted 06-23-2022 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many "official crew photos" are taken during the crew training phase. Flight suits are not used for training. It is probably not so much paid attention to the exact arrangement of the emblems.

An exact statement as to which emblems are attached to the suits during the flight/start of the crew is only shown by photos taken directly before the flight. (Example Soyuz TM-8, see photo from Wikipedia, crew on the way to the booster rocket, used the ISS Sokols' 'empty' Zvezda patch.)

From the documents available to me (two books, spacepatches.nl, and the Internet), I have created a small compilation of the different patches as a pdf file. If you want, I can publish them.

At spacepatches.nl I found the following for the Soyuz TM-8:

The crew for Soyuz TMA-8 was wearing a new Zvezda patch on their Sokols for their official picture, showing the abbreviation 'MKC' (Mezhdunarodnaya Kosmicheskaya Stantsiya - International Space Station).

The same sort of Zvezda emblem patch had been used during flights to the Salyut and Mir Space Stations - the ISS Sokols up to that point had an 'empty' Zvezda patch.

The MKC patch was fabricated by Alex Panchenko and produced by Shanghai Dingsheng Fabric Co. It was never worn on the flight Sokols by any Soyuz crew.

KenDavis
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posted 06-23-2022 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenDavis   Click Here to Email KenDavis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, anything you have would be most helpful.

waa49
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posted 06-24-2022 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go: Russia Zvezda Sokol Suits Patches (PDF).

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