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Moonbase Alphan
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posted 01-02-2020 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
International Space Station (ISS) Expedition 63 mission insignia, incorporating a multitude of elements, such as a stylized 63 in the orbit traces, a boot print on the lunar surface, and the initials of the three crewmen, Andrei Babkin, Nikolai Tikhonov and Chris Cassidy: АБ НТ CC.

lucspace
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posted 01-02-2020 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An outstanding design! Excellent use of colours, giving the impression of a multitude of hues. Kudos!

thisismills
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posted 01-02-2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 01-02-2020 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding! Looks like another one of Blake Dumesnil's designs? Anyone?

Tom
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posted 01-02-2020 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome patch!

TobiasC
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posted 01-03-2020 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TobiasC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the best crew patches I've seen in a while in my opinion, I'm interested in seeing how the embroidered version looks.

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posted 01-18-2020 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patch description from Chris Cassidy:
The Expedition 63 patch represents an intersection of the past and the beginning of a new dawn in human spaceflight as we continue to inhabit the International Space Station (ISS), aim towards returning to the moon and plan for the journey to Mars.

Thirteen illuminated stars along the top of the patch commemorate the Apollo 13 celebrating its 50th anniversary during Expedition 63. The swoosh in the shape of the number "63" orbiting around the earth and moon honors the Apollo program and the future missions to go beyond low earth orbit.

The atom, shown overlaid on a vibrant sunrise, is the Expedition 63 crew's call sign symbolizing the energy to revolve, or orbit around a nucleus or in their case, the Earth. The international crew's initials on the outside ring depicts the importance of the collaboration in preserving the ISS as a microgravity and space environment research laboratory.

Liembo
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posted 02-13-2020 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on the patch shown on A-B Emblem's site, the patch is another minimally embroidered silkscreen design.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-13-2020 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to some reliably information these Expedition 63 patches were dispatched from Weaverville to their agents on Monday 10th February. These patches have the SKU patch design number 419926, I'm not sure of the date codes at this moment in time?

Not one of my favourite patches, I would of preferred a fully or part embroidered version.

Mike Dixon
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posted 02-13-2020 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is one ordinary effort ... ugly.

Liembo
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posted 02-13-2020 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. This looks like poor execution. It's not good when the original looks like a knock-off. I hope it looks better in person because their scan makes it look blurry and washed out compared to the contrast of the original artwork.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-18-2020 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can now confirm the first date code reported to me for the Expedition 63 first version patches is;
  • 419926 A-B Emblem 0220 20 (USA)
  • 419926 A-B Emblem 0120 20 (USA) seen photo on 09-04-20

vanerie
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posted 02-18-2020 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanerie   Click Here to Email vanerie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see no reason why this design could not have been done with embroidery. I used to think the definition of a patch was "embroidered."

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-18-2020 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I quite agree. I would like to see a good embroidered version produced by AB Emblem, but the chances of that being done is very remote?

Liembo
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posted 02-18-2020 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are partially embroidered to raise the details but there is no colored thread on top of the dye submlimated image. They are more vivid in hand than the scan on the website would indicate, but the image feels a bit blurry. The cut edge also varies in width and accuracy on both examples I have.

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 02-18-2020 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you on all accounts Liem.

lucspace
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posted 02-19-2020 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Image of the patch from The Space Store shows a more favourable view of its quality.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2020 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This patch will need to be changed. Andrei Babkin and Nikolai Tikhonov have been replaced on the crew by Anatoli Ivanishin and Ivan Vagner for medical reasons.

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 02-19-2020 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could this mean a second effort at an embroidered patch with the crew change announced?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-19-2020 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fear it will be a revised silk screened printed patch again.

mode1charlie
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posted 02-19-2020 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really is disappointing. Such a beautiful design, but a mundane patch.

vanerie
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posted 02-27-2020 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanerie   Click Here to Email vanerie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received mine today. AB Emblem completely missed the mark with this washed out blurred interpretation of the original artwork. No more silk-screened patches please...

Robert Pearlman
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I know others know this, but perhaps a good reminder: AB Emblem produces what its customer wants. In this case, the customer is the Expedition 63 crew (and NASA).

It is possible that Chris Cassidy was shown other versions of the patch and decided the silk-screened approach worked the best. I don't know if that happened, but if the crew was unhappy with the result, it would carry more weight than what, we, the public thinks about it.

KAPTEC
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posted 02-29-2020 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion, an embroidered patch would have been something perfect for this emblem. The end result of what AB has produced is crap that completely detracts from what could have been one of the most beautiful patches in history.

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posted 02-29-2020 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have received my patch and have to agree with the above comments. A beautiful design ruined by poor execution.

Of note, mine, from Skyforce, has no embedded label.

Mike Dixon
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posted 02-29-2020 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KAPTEC:
In my opinion, an embroidered patch would have been something perfect for this emblem.
!00% right.

Moonbase Alphan
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posted 03-02-2020 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just released. Somewhat anticlimactic.

Liembo
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posted 03-02-2020 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One detail that is feels most lost with the dye sublimated process is the footprint on the moon.

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posted 03-02-2020 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IconDesign29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure who makes the final call on the process utilized for translating the design to embroidery, but I will say that when I designed this patch, it was my full expectation and intention that it would be something that could translate well to a full embroidered product. I never thought it would be necessary to print any of the details as it seemed manageable to properly stitch everything. There have been much more complex designs than this one.

I have yet to see one of the these in person and hope that it looks better to the naked eye so I don't want to pass judgment but admit I am disappointed in what I have seen thus far from the pics. Ultimately, the manner in which the design is translated isn't up to us designers.

I do want to thank everyone so much for the kind words regarding the design though! It means a lot! I really aimed to make something beautiful and artistic with this design. — Blake

Paul J. Brennan
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posted 03-02-2020 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul J. Brennan   Click Here to Email Paul J. Brennan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding work Blake! Hopefully, they get it right on the second version (pending approval).

IconDesign29
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posted 03-02-2020 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IconDesign29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Paul! Much appreciated.

thisismills
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Thank you for sharing the design information, from the get go I thought it was a beautiful and visually striking effort.

I too hope that an embroidered version of this design will exist at some point in the future.

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posted 03-02-2020 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was sure it was yours Blake! My congratulations for a beautiful design. Hopefully someone turns it into an embroidered patch and we can forget this crap that has been manufactured.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-03-2020 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem has just updated its Expedition 63 patch page on its website.
Expedition 63 had a crew change and the new version has the astronauts initials removed.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-13-2020 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The AB Emblem website now (as of March 13) shows the new revised Expedition 63 patch design, and the new revised SKU patch design number 422231. The date code is not confirmed as yet? 03/19 20 has been reported so far?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-21-2020 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The date code for this revised Expedition 63 patch without crew initials is 03/19 20. Yes that is 2019 and not 2020, it's a year error on all the ones reported to me so far.

If anyone has a correct date code 03/20 20 could you post a back image photo/scan here? Many thanks.

Jacques van Oene
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posted 03-26-2020 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The crew is wearing the "old" Expedition 63 crew patches on their Sokol suits.

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I think Cassidy has a new ISS-63 patch on his training suit in Baikonur. But according to Kentavr they have not received new patches from NASA for onboard suits and no ISS-63 patches at all on them.

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The Soyuz MS-16 crew wore the new (no initials) Expedition 63 patch on their Sokol spacesuits for launch.

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Great! Really good news! It is flying now!


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