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Chuckster01
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posted 08-13-2018 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know if Mach 25 patches are still issued to all astronauts who fly or did that end with the space shuttle program?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-15-2018 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the status of the Mach 25 patch at current, but the Soyuz spinoff "MAXA 25" patch continues to be presented, as seen in these photos of Kimiya Yui with Kjell Lindgren and Butch Wilmore with Samantha Cristoforetti.

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posted 08-16-2018 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the first I have seen of the MAXA-25 patch with Soyuz capsule instead of a shuttle.

Very cool.

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posted 08-17-2018 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmcmurrey   Click Here to Email mmcmurrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see a MAXA 25 in these pics. It looks like MACH 25 patches.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-17-2018 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, it does look like the "Mach" in the photo with Wilmore, but it still seems appropriate to refer to them as the MAXA 25 patch after the original Soyuz design (linked above).

Liembo
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posted 03-22-2019 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A-B Emblem posted up some old and new Mach 25 patches to their "Lost in Space" page and they were swept up in less than 10 minutes, not sure what the quantity was other than "limited."

Given that these are usually extras from an official production run it looks like it's safe to say astronauts for SpaceX and Boeing may be sporting these on their flight suits in the future?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-22-2019 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I saw these Mach 25 patches. Each patch has the following SKU patch design numbers;
  • Space Shuttle (original design) 406823
  • Space Station (showing Soyuz craft) 406821
  • SpaceX 408044 (new)
  • Starliner 408046 (new)
These SKU numbers are all 2019 patch design numbers, and the date codes are probably all February and March prototype/sample "55" date codes?

They were described by AB Emblem as "Patch the same one issued by NASA for current astronauts."

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posted 03-22-2019 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will be interesting to see if an Orion "Mach 36" version is also eventually produced.

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posted 03-22-2019 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James913   Click Here to Email James913     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First question pops to my mind: why was a new run of space shuttle Mach 25 patches being made for NASA?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-22-2019 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Per a recent (unrelated) discussion with a shuttle astronaut, NASA still provides patches to its program veterans as needed.

Liembo
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posted 03-25-2019 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
...prototype/sample "55" date codes?
They are all "0319 55," A-B Emblem crown logo sticker.

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posted 03-25-2019 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "55" sample demarcation will distinguish these patches from those sourced from space shuttle, Soyuz and future astronauts.

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posted 03-25-2019 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As it turns out, the label on the back is a sticker, not embedded under the plastic material.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-25-2019 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the SKU patch design numbers on the SpaceX and Starliner Mach 25 patch stickers are different to the ones used on the AB Emblem website. Which of the two SKU numbers are on your packing slip Liem?
  • SpaceX 408044 on the website, 405044 on the patch sticker
  • Starliner 408046 on the website, 405046 on the patch sticker
I wonder which one is the error? Or are there two versions of these two patches?

I also noticed there is a missing "0" from the 319 55 date code on the Starliner sticker.

Liembo
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posted 03-25-2019 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't consider the "319 55" number any sort of variation. If you look closely, the sticker cut above, partially included in the label does have the zero, so it's probably a defect or inking issue with their stamper (this could explain other missing 0 labels elsewhere? who knows)

SKUs on the packing slip match the website.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-26-2019 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For comparison, here are examples of shuttle and Soyuz Mach 25 patches obtained from an astronaut (on the left) and their new sample counterparts. As you can see, the designs differ in stitching and thread color.

The astronaut-obtained shuttle example was made by AB Emblem in 2016. The Soyuz version has no label.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-26-2019 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks for showing the earlier two patches top and middle left.

What is the patch design number and date code on the top left Shuttle Mach 25 patch?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-26-2019 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The shuttle Mach 25 design is 160016; the date code is 7/16/20.

Liembo
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posted 04-24-2019 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An additional batch of the Mach patches was authorized by A-B Emblem for sale on their site, this time it's production run ("PR") extras (all but the Soyuz version). I estimate there were 12 or so of each. This time they have production date codes.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 04-24-2019 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The SKU patch design numbers and date codes on the embedded labels were as follows;
  • Boeing Starliner 405046 A-B Emblem 04/19 20
  • Space Shuttle 406823 A-B Emblem 04/19 20
  • SpaceX Dragon 405044 A-B Emblem 04/19 20

thisismills
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posted 11-15-2020 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug Hurley wearing a Mach 25 Dragon patch today (Nov. 15) during the Crew-1 launch broadcast.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-17-2020 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good catch! So now we know that the earlier sample and small production batches were more than a proposal and have now been put into use by the astronaut office.

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