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Kevin T. Randall
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posted 08-10-2018 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are now seven date codes used/found on these now obsolete, (due to the Soyuz MS-10 abort), AB Emblem Expedition 57 (5 crew names) patches. All have the patch design number 294788 and the A-B Emblem name and "crown" emblem.

Three of the seven patches also have "Made In China" under the "A-B Emblem" name on the labels.

  • 0418 55 (USA) (Sample patch)
  • 0518 55 (USA) (Sample patch)
  • 5/18 20 (USA) (Crew batch)
  • 05/1840 + Made In China
  • 7/18 20 (USA)
  • 07/1840 + Made In China
  • 10/1840 + Made In China (production run cut short)

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posted 10-17-2018 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Revised Expedition 57 insignia after the Soyuz MS-10 launch failure.

lucspace
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posted 10-18-2018 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any idea whether AB Emblem will produce this version?

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posted 10-18-2018 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem will be producing a new Expedition 57 patch, but it may be December before it is available, per Joe Fricano at SkyForce Space Patches.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 11-27-2018 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest e-mail message from AB Emblem today is:
The new Expedition 57 has been approved, but we will not be stocking it until the astronauts office places their order.

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posted 12-03-2018 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While watching the NASA coverage of today's launch, they briefly showed the new Expedition 57 patch on the screen that includes today's crew launched successfully to ISS.

Jacques van Oene
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posted 12-13-2018 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS Expedition 57 patch on the space station:

waa49
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posted 12-24-2018 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any information when the ISS Expedition 57 patch with six names (Soyuz MS-09 and Soyuz MS-11 crews) will be produced (A-B Emblem/NASA/or)?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 12-24-2018 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Expedition 57 six crew names patches are in production right now along with the Expedition 58 three crew names patches. But there is no firm release date for either as yet.

All I got from AB Emblem was that once they have supplied the Astronaut Office, NASA and Roscosmos with their orders, then they will release them to their agents first and then to the general public through their website. This will probably be during January or in early February 2019.

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posted 12-24-2018 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nelyubov   Click Here to Email nelyubov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will the three name Expedition 57 patch be produced or only the new six name version?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 12-24-2018 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the production runs for Expedition 57 three crew name patches have all been cancelled. There were only a few prototype/sample/crew batch patches produced, probably 50 or less?

If anyone knows the patch design number and the date code(s) used on the three crew names version patch, could you let me know, or post a back image/photo here? Many thanks.

Update 03-01-19: Released today with P/D # 402600 date code(s) unknown at this time.

waa49
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posted 12-25-2018 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, what a bad news. The official NASA photo shows three people and the corresponding logo. Most of the time, the ISS Expedition 57 consisted of three crewmembers. Why should not this logo/patch be available to the public?

One should audition at the NASA/A-B Emblem to cause a rethink. The unusual mission from start to finish earned three patches.

nelyubov
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posted 12-25-2018 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nelyubov   Click Here to Email nelyubov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one of the reason why I slowly have moved away from patch collecting. They create real rare patches in small batches that will never surface unless you have money and the average collector has a hole in their collections.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 12-25-2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by waa49:
The unusual mission from start to finish earned three patches.
With the current new six crew names version, that will make five different patches for this ISS Expedition 57.
  • Original 6 crew names with Epps 278722 and 279891
  • Revised 6 crew names with Aunon-Chancellor 291458
  • 5 crew names with Tikhonov removed 294788
  • 3 crew names Aunon-Chancellor, Gerst, Prokopyev 402600 / 406200
  • 6 crew names Kononenok, McClain, Saint-Jacques added 406803

waa49
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posted 01-03-2019 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem information: The three name Expedition 57 patch is now available on the website.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 01-03-2019 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have got your wish. But this Expedition 57 three crew names version is an obsolete patch, so I think it will be short lived. So get in quick to secure your example(s).

Liembo
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posted 01-03-2019 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Special thanks to A-B Emblem who were very responsive to inquiries about making this variation available to collectors.

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posted 01-07-2019 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today, my five crew and three crew emblem patch arrived.

One of ten five name patch has 294788 0418 55 AB Emblem. The other have 294788 107 1840 Made in China. The three name patch has 402600 AB Emblem 1/19 20.

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posted 01-07-2019 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the ones I received today. It looks like I have a transposed SKU number (406200). It's also notable that it's the larger size format like the earlier versions.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 01-15-2019 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I have received from lunarrv15 confirmation of the Expedition 57 patches he received from AB Emblem. They are:
  • 5 crew names 294788 A-B Emblem 0418 55 (USA) Sample patch (new)
  • 5 crew names 294788 A-B Emblem Made In China 10/1840 (not 107 1840)
  • 3 crew names 406200 A-B Emblem 12/18 20 (USA) same as Liem's above.
  • 3 crew names 402600 A-B Emblem 1/19 20 (USA)

waa49
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posted 02-03-2019 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waa49   Click Here to Email waa49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
This will probably be during January or in early February 2019.
Is there any new delivery data?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-04-2019 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I have heard nothing new concerning the new Expedition 57 six crew names patches.

Update on 12th February: I have received an e-mail from AB Emblem:

If this is the 6-name version that you are referring to, we are working on this one. It was never an official NASA design, so it will be listed as unofficial.
That is it, nothing as to the possible release date for this new Expedition 57 six crew name patch. No SKU patch design number, and no date code. Though reading between the lines it looks like it will be 2/19 20 (February 2019 USA)?

The question is which of the five versions of the Expedition 57 patches is the official one?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-04-2019 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Expedition 57 (unofficial) six crew names version patch has finally been released today and put up for sale on the AB Emblem website. The SKU patch design number is 406803, the date code(s) are not yet confirmed (but probably will be 2/19 20).

This is a limited edition issue, as it has gone straight onto their "Lost In Space" page.

Update 5th March: Now showing "Sold Out". That's just less than 24 hours on sale.

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posted 03-05-2019 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cascader   Click Here to Email Cascader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the heads up about the six crew patch. Seems like I bought one just in time.

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posted 03-05-2019 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered my six name update yesterday as well and they were going fast it seemed.

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posted 03-05-2019 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probable low production patch. Have my amount.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-05-2019 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could I ask you gents to confirm the date code(s) used by posting it here, when you receive your Expedition 57 six crew 406803 patches? Many thanks. It will be a few weeks before I will receive mine.

lunarrv15
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posted 03-07-2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bundle arrived. They all have 406803 AB EMBLEM 2/19 20.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-07-2019 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the date code (2/19 20) I thought it would be. Many thanks for your confirmation John.

I've just received a second conformation of this 2/19 20 date code in a photo. Embedded label is up side down on the patch.

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posted 03-08-2019 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any word on if they intend to do a few more six-name version? I missed them.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-09-2019 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard nothing official from AB Emblem yet, but I have a feeling we will see a second batch of these unofficial Expedition 57 six crew name patches. Either another batch manufactured at Weaverville, or a batch made in China?

I have sent an e-mail to AB Emblem requesting information. If I hear back from them, I will post their reply here.

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posted 03-09-2019 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Expedition 57 six person patch has the same code as above. Just got it yesterday.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-12-2019 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have received a reply e-mail back from AB Emblem concerning the "unofficial" Expedition 57 six crew names patches, 406803 A-B Emblem 2/19 20.

All that were produced in February were sold out on 5th March, and no more were planned to be made. But if enough collectors who missed out on the first batch would like to receive one or more of these "unofficial" Expedition 57 patches, then another production run could be made at the end of March.

So it is up to you cS members/patch collectors who would like a further production run to be manufactured, to let AB Emblem or me know (by e-mail), how many extra patches would be required? Bearing in mind the minimum production run is for 50 patches. We have a week to decide.

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I missed out on the first batch on 5th March and would like to receive one of these "unofficial" Expedition 57 patches, so I want another production run if possible.

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Well, if AB will make more unofficial patches if there are demands for them, then I ask another production of the first patch with Epps that I missed.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-12-2019 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first "Epps" version of this Expedition 57 patch was an "official" NASA patch. NASA put a production stop on those patches when Jeanette Epps was replaced by Serena Aunon-Chancellor. So there is no chance of another production run of those Epps patches, unless they are done in error like the Expedition 56 Epps patches 286236 with date code 08/18 01. Sorry John.

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I missed out on both Expedition 57 and 56 Epps patches - if there's a chance that there could be another run of Expedition 56 Epps patches then I am speaking up for it.

I am also speaking up for an "unofficial" Expedition 57 patch.

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posted 03-12-2019 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vanerie   Click Here to Email vanerie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also like to see an "unofficial" re-run of the Epps Expedition 57 patch.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-12-2019 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have put that request for another production run on the Expedition 57 (Epps) 279891 patches to AB Emblem, and I'm now awaiting their reply.

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I can appreciate the desire of collectors who would still like to add the Epps-version patch(es) to their collection, but object to another run being produced.

The original sale was of patches left over from before Epps was removed from the flight. It was a choice between selling or discarding them, the latter resulting in AB Emblem having to absorb their production costs.

A re-run of the patches though, would be a conscious effort to benefit from Epps' misfortune, both by AB Emblem and by the collectors placing the order. That seems wrong to me.

There is also a concern about what separates collecting from hoarding, the inherit challenge of assembling a set, but that is secondary to the above.


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