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Topic: Guide to Soviet and Russian space patches
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airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-12-2016 05:38 AM
   
Please can anyone tell me if a catalogue or handbook has ever been produced that lists the patches made for Soyuz flights? I collect and would like to know for example where the various patches were made and by whom. I am aware of some but wondered if anyone had produced a comprehensive record. Thanks. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-12-2016 05:43 AM
It has not yet been released, but this upcoming paperback may be of interest. Covering the period from the beginning of the Cold War to the installation of the International Space Station, "Design for Space: Soviet and Russian Mission Patches " documents a rare collection: almost 250 mission patches worn by Soviet and Russian cosmonauts since 1963. |
airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-12-2016 08:09 AM
Seems to answer my question! I have pre-ordered via Amazon. Thanks very much.
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hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-12-2016 08:14 AM
Scattered around on our website www.spacepatches.nl there is also a lot of information about Russian patches, some outdated or in need of corrections and additions. I am also working on a guide, or book, or whatever you want to call it about the subject. Of course it will also cover all the Soyuz patches we made since Soyuz TMA-13 and the Mir patches that Luc and Jaap already produced during the Mir-days, as well as some ISS Expedition patches we were involved in. Already have some 150 pages, but it could very well be another 10 years before it is finished :-) Very interested though what Glushko has found out and will write about those. |
airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-12-2016 09:17 AM
Yes, I visit your site often. 10 years! That's some project! I try to buy patches from source, too many now from Malaysia, Taiwan, etc. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-12-2016 10:05 AM
In general, all the Interkosmos patches were designed and produced by/in the guest countries themselves. Here is a quick list I compiled of some later Soyuz flights and Mir missions. Maybe someone can put it in a nice table, but listed are flight, designer and producer/manufacturer. Please if anyone finds mistakes, let me know, it was done quickly... Also, sometimes there are thin lines between designer, artist, producer; this has sometimes lead to some serious arguments!! Hopefully, I will not trigger new ones.A final note: since Soyuz TMA-14, the actual manufacturer of the patches (except for TMA-18M, we had a production emergency) has been the same, but I can not reveal it now. - Soyuz TM-16: Vadim Molchanov, Stewart Aviation
- Mir EO-13: Konstantin Lantratov, Stewart Aviation
- Soyuz TM-17: "A friend of Tsibliyev", Russian manufacturer (on Sokols)
- Mir EO-14: Konstantin Lantratov, Stewart Aviation
- Mir EO-15: Konstantin Lantratov, Stewart Aviation
- Soyuz TM-19: Konstantin Lantratov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies (on Sokols)
- Mir EO-16: Konstantin Lantratov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TM-20: Konstantin Lantratov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Mir EO-17: Konstantin Lantratov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Mir EO-18: ?, AB Emblem (on Sokols)
- Mir EO-19: Novosti Kosmonavtiki (Lantratov?), Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Mir EO-20: Oleg Shitikov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Mir EO-21: Oleg Shitikov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies (worn on Penguin suits)
- Soyuz TM-24: Oleg Shinkovich, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Mir EO-22: Konstantin Lantratov, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TM-25: German artist Andora, German producer
- Mir EO-23: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja (black felt)
- Mir EO-24: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja (black felt)
- Mir EO-25: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja (black felt)
- Mir EO-26: Dima Shcherbinin, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TM-29: Luc van den Abeelen, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies (on Sokols)
- Mir EO-28: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja
- Soyuz TM-32: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja
- Soyuz TM-33: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja
- Soyuz TM-34: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja
- Soyuz TMA-1: Dima Shcherbinin, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TMA-2: Dima Shcherbinin, Planeta Zemlja
- Soyuz TMA-3: Luc van den Abeelen, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TMA-4: Luc van den Abeelen, Spaceview/Aviation Patch Supplies
- Soyuz TMA-5: Alex Panchenko/Sean O'Mara, unknown manufacturer
- Soyuz TMA-6: Alex Panchenko/Sergei Krikalev, unknown manufacturer
- Soyuz TMA-7: Alex Panchenko, Ding Sheng Fabric Co
- Soyuz TMA-8: Pavel Vinogradov, Panchenko/Ding Sheng Fabric Co
- Soyuz TMA-9: Alex Panchenko, Ding Sheng Fabric Co
- Soyuz TMA-10: Fyodor Yurchikhin, Russian manufacturer (Black border; souvenirs made by Kotov/Panchenko)
- Soyuz TMA-11: Alex Panchenko/Yuri Malenchenko, Ding Sheng Fabric Co
- Soyuz TMA-12: Oleg Kononenko, Russian manufacturer
- Soyuz TMA-13: Benjamin Berezin, Space Adventures
- Soyuz TMA-14: Anna Chibiskova/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-15: Yura Menkevich/Erik van der Hoorn, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-16: Anastasia Mestyashova/Erik van der Hoorn, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-17: Oleg Golovin/Dong Yue/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-18: Nastya Berezutski/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net, manufacturer X (onboard suits)/Nederhoed Borduurtechniek(Sokols)
- Soyuz TMA-19: Evgeny Emelianov/Dima Shcherbinin, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-20: Marina Korolenko/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-21: Marciel Santos Kayle/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-22: Maxim Baikalov/Mark Serov/Erik van der Hoorn, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-01M: Alexander Turovsky/Erik van der Hoorn, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-02M: Kati Ikramov/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-03M: Alena Gerasimova/Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-04M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-05M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Emblemen.net
- Soyuz TMA-06M: Evgeni Tarelkin, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-07M: Erik van der Hoorn, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-08M: Erik van der Hoorn/Jorge Cartes, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-09M: Luc van den Abeelen/Dima Shcherbinin, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-10M: Valeria Kotov, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Souyuz TMA-11M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-12M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-13M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-14M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-15M: Anton Shkaplerov/Riccardo Rossi/Andrei Babkin, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-16M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-17M: Luc van den Abeelen/Blake Dumesnil, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-18M: Jorge Cartes, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-19M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz TMA-20M: Luc van den Abeelen, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
- Soyuz MS-01: Jorge Cartes, Spacepatches.nl/Lucreation.net
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airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-12-2016 10:32 AM
That's very helpful list, I had no idea so many makers were involved. It's not easy. At least now I have some knowledge of where to start. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-12-2016 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by airnorth:
I had no idea so many makers were involved.
Of course between Soyuz TMA-14M and TMA-03M the names of the children are listed that contributed to the designs through the Roscosmos competition.Also, some main periods can be distinguished: 1. Stewart Aviation/Molchanov; 2. Novosti Kosmonavtiki/Spaceview (=Luc van den Abeelen and Jaap Terweij); 3. Planeta Zemlja; 4. Planeta Zemlja/Spaceview; 5. Alex Panchenko; 6. Spacepatches.nl (which also includes Spaceview). |
airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-12-2016 12:06 PM
And that's only half the story, early flights are a whole different issue. Where were Zvesda patches made? Maybe the book due to be published later may fill a few gaps. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-12-2016 12:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by airnorth:
And that's only half the story.
Well, besides the Interkosmos patches and the two Soviet Apollo-Soyuz patch designs (one of which was designed by Galina Balashova — the story is in another DOM Publishers book about her, already making reference to Alexander Glushko's work) there are not many official Soyuz patches. I only know a couple of pencil sketches made after the fact in the nineties by Vadim Molchanov. The only items produced at or near the time of the Soyuz flights were the pins. There is a good Russian book about those, in many cases naming the designers and the manufacturers. |
johntosullivan
Member Posts: 162
From: Cork, Cork, Ireland
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 02-13-2016 02:44 AM
Wasn't there a bit of confusion around the Panchecnko period? I remember with TMA-5 and TMA-6 there being two patches available. Both receiving "official" imprimatur, i.e. conflicting designs appearing on sokol suits, appearing in Houston mission control, endorsed by cosmonauts.Does anyone have a background to this? I remember being confused at the time. (Looking forward to getting that book!) |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-13-2016 06:50 AM
Before TMA-5, we were under the impression that we had been making the official crew patch, working with Leroy Chiao and American artist Marc Jacobs. Especially because it was visible in the crew portrait. Shortly before launch, a different design (that of Alex's) turned out to be on the flight suits. At the time, we had some problems to accept it (also because we had a lot of patches made for collectors) but of course, since it was on the suits, Alex's patch was the "official" one. (Although nothing was official about those patches yet, without RKA or Roscosmos-involvement.) (Then, another issue arose: Alex and Sean O'Mara fell victim to the "who-actually-designed-this-patch-and-will-get-the-credits?"-syndrome, seen more often in the world of space patches...) TMA-6: same story, even though our design (made by Dima Shcherbinin) was used again in the crew portrait and on some flight related documents, Alex's patch was the one that was flown, so it should be considered the "official" one. We stopped working on those patches after that; Alex made them for TMA-7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 but for some reason, disappeared after that. We were then somewhat involved in a replacement TMA-13M design (because Roscosmos was not happy with Berezin's patch showing a "100" for the 100th Soyuz flight — there was some dispute about if that was correct). We also made a mistake though, by not placing the commander's name in the center, so Yuri Lonchakov pointed out that if he had to choose between two patches with a mistake, he would choose Berezin's! Secretly, we were very happy, because we all liked that one much better and did not want to be the ones to kill it... It was only then that we were officially asked by Roscosmos for TMA-14 and subsequent flights. I have written a lot about those days, but honestly, besides that it is not completely finished, I can not publish it yet, because some of the things that happened "backstage," are still a bit too sensitive. I will make sure though that it will not be lost. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 861
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 02-13-2016 07:24 AM
I'm 100% sure Sean O'Mara was/is the designer of the TMA-5 patch, the only thing Panchenko did was take his design and make patches out of it. |
johntosullivan
Member Posts: 162
From: Cork, Cork, Ireland
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 02-13-2016 08:46 AM
I also remember being frustrated by the Red/Blue/Silver borders on the Soyuz TMA-8 patches. Seemed a bit mercenary towards collectors.
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hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-13-2016 10:39 AM
Later, these TMA-8's and all the other patches produced for Alex by Ding Sheng Fabric Co re-appeared on eBay in unlimited supply. Never understood what happened. Maybe, the company sold the embroidery patterns. |
airnorth
Member Posts: 15
From: uk
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 02-13-2016 04:47 PM
I'm very pleased I posted the original question, the replies have been so helpful and interesting. Thanks for all help. | |
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