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Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-30-2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today (Jan. 30) at the National Air and Space Museum, 2013 NASA astronaut candidate Anne McClain briefly described her group's newly-designed class patch. McClain was prompted by a question posed by Cian O'Regan (cS: COR482932) of the Irish Space Blog:
We just designed our class patch. We have a symbol of a star just taking off from the Earth and going somewhere out into space because the missions that NASA is looking at are so diverse right now, some of us are going to end up on the International Space Station, some of us might go to an asteroid, some of us might go to Mars...
(The "8 Balls" were not wearing their class patch on their blue flight jackets, so it is still be seen.)

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 01-30-2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did notice that they were all wearing their standard issue nameplates. Anne McClain has one with an 8-ball, her name, and her call sign, as seen on her Twitter feed.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-14-2014 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A new "behind the scenes" photo posted to the 2013 Astronaut Class' Facebook page shows them wearing what may be the simplified version of their new class patch:

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posted 02-14-2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for COR482932   Click Here to Email COR482932     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
McClain was prompted by a question posed by Cian O'Regan (cS: COR482932) of the Irish Space Blog
Thanks for posting that first message Robert. As a matter of fact I did not even know that my question was asked! I only watched it again when I saw this post.

The question I submitted on Twitter was:

What aspect of astronaut training have you enjoyed the most, and are you all setting your sights on a flight to the ISS?
Earlier on in the event the first part of my dual question was answered by Mike Hopkins on the ISS. I soon stopped watching the video after my question was asked, so I was unaware that I got an ASCAN to answer my question.

I still have a smile on my face from getting an answer from the space station.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-25-2014 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 2013 NASA Astronaut Class insignia:

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-16-2014 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Victor Glover's Twitter profile banner, it looks like the "8 Balls" patch has reached the space station:

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 06-20-2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya know, it took me awhile before I realized the significance of the name: Not only the four men are in the class, but the 8-ball is the last to be played. (Hopefully none of them get "scratched"...)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-19-2023 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A-B Emblem now has available the Class 21 patch (design no. 219011).

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posted 09-19-2023 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a bad design, and a big departure from the "ten gallons of elements in a 2 gallon bucket" concept seen far too often in designs like that.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 09-20-2023 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with p51!

I've always been a big believer in the design philosophy of "Less is More."

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-20-2023 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In addition to their official class patch (and its simplified design for apparel), the 8 Balls also have this design that I have seen at least one of the members wear:

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posted 09-20-2023 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Joel Katzowitz:
I've always been a big believer in the design philosophy of "Less is More."
As would an actual graphic designer.

In so many cases with either amateurs or when someone is at the beck and call of others, people try to make their mark by saying, "Hey, why can't you add _____ to this?" And it piles on the moment you make ONE concession because everyone else is going to want to make their mark, as well.

Hoot Gibson and I had a discussion about this on the subject of the creation of the astronaut wings. He said a room full of "Type A personality" folks, nobody wanted to back down. So he made the call for a simple single design and gave it to John Young, who quickly approved it.

But it's a pain to design stuff with input of several people, everyone wants to make their mark. Just look at any good corporate logo or design and you'll see one of two elements at the most.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 09-21-2023 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha, I am an "actual designer", graphic as well as 3D.

And I totally concur with your assessment of the creative process.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-21-2023 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by p51:
Just look at any good corporate logo...
Except, these aren't meant to be corporate logos.

I understand your point, but personally, I would rather see a busy patch design that was created by the astronauts involved, then see a design that was produced only to follow good design practices. If the two concerns intersect naturally, as apparently happened with the 8 Balls patch, then great.

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 09-21-2023 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Design" solutions can be interpreted or judged from many different levels and perspectives. Ideally the concept should succeed in all of them: The aesthetic component, informational component, intellectual component, emotional component, you get the idea. Sorry, I'll get off my design soapbox now.

I seem to recall creating a graphic for the collectSPACE 10 year anniversary...

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-26-2023 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The full details that are found on the embedded labels for this AB Emblem ASCAN Class XXI (21) patch are as follows;
  • 219011 A-B Emblem Made In China 08/23 40

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