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benguttery
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posted 10-16-2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has any embarked on a project to collect signed or autographed mission patches?

I have thought about it a lot. I think it would be fun to put together. Perhaps mail out mission patches to the astronauts on the flight, have them sign and return. I know everyone has mixed results with this.

Should everyone sign one patch? It would be a lot easier to have everyone sign different patches. It would certainly need a ton of patches to pull this off.

spaced out
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posted 10-16-2011 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never did like signed patches myself. If signed on the front the result is usually a very rough looking signature (that is near impossible to authenticate later) and a messy looking patch.

I've seen a few rare vintage patches signed on the front and it always makes me wince.

You can get a neat signature on the back of a plastic-sealed patch but to be honest the back of a patch is pretty unappealing looking thing. It doesn't seem like the best place for a signature.

Skyforce1
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posted 10-16-2011 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skyforce1   Click Here to Email Skyforce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the three mission patches signed by Mike Mullane and his book "Riding Rockets". Caught him on C-SPAN one morning talking about his book, so I sent him the book and his three mission patches (41-D, 36 and 27).

And Tim Gagnon has been kind enough to autograph all the patches for me he has designed.

mjanovec
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posted 10-16-2011 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Chris. I've rarely seen an embroidered patch with a signature that looks appealing. The only signed patches that look attractive to me are the beta cloth patches. (And even then, I think the unsigned ones are just as neat.)

One option would be to print the artwork of your favorite patches as 8x10 photographs, with some white space (or black space) around the edges of the design for accumulating signatures. That way you can get the "patches" signed, but still end up with an attractive display piece.

Fezman92
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posted 10-16-2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mjanovec:
One option would be to print the artwork of your favorite patches as 8x10 photographs...
That's what I did for 135. I printed the patch onto a 8x10 card stock paper and sent it with a letter request to Captain Ferguson before the launch. Haven't gotten it back yet which isn't a surprise given that they are so busy.

OV-105
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posted 10-16-2011 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eagle One did a set of autographed patches back in the early mid 90's. I got some good ones from that series. They had a spot on the patch for the Astronaut to sign on them. If I wanted a mission patch signed I would use a mission decal.

benguttery
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posted 10-17-2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Signed stickers is a great idea.

butch wilks
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posted 10-23-2011 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Ben that a signed sticker is a good idea, but I only have two signed stickers in my collection and only of the same type: Skylab II wives patches. A VIP sticker number 545 with Ardis and Jacques on it and one Ardis signed and sent to me on getting the the TMA-13 ladies patch. As you can see I got them a good few years a part.

I see problems with them. The two are in the some frame and you can see the aging of the two stickers as the sun has gotten to them and they have started to fade over the years.

As the VIP patch was not kept in the dark for as long as the one signed by Ardis only, the white of the VIP sticker has yellowed a bit over time, and the Ardis only sticker still looks as good as new.

I keep the frame with them well out of the sun. This helps keep the fading down and this will help with the yellowing. But you cannot stop it as this keeps going on as the sticker gets older. But they still look good. This fading and yellowing can bring down the price of the sticker, if you sell your stickers on.

I have three signed patches all signed on the back and it seem you do not get the fading problems with them. So all in all I think in the end it is better to have signed patches as to stickers.

MikeSpace
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posted 10-25-2011 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I collect beta cloth patches and have found some great signed ones. The large white border is a natural for signatures, although I agree they also look very nice unsigned.

p51
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posted 10-28-2011 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently found these, which are patches made to be signed by specific astronauts and then signed by them before sale. Interesting concept!

I'm not sure how I feel about that. You really wouldn't sew one on anything and if you framed it, it'd make more sense to have something else signed like a photo.

OV-105
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posted 10-29-2011 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those were the ones that Eagle One Aerospace put out in the 90's. I will have to look up and see how much they were when they were selling them when they first came out. There was a Deke Slayton one also.

apollo11lem5
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posted 10-30-2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo11lem5   Click Here to Email apollo11lem5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have only one signed patch. It is signed by Greg Jarvis and is a 51-L Challenger patch.

My error is simple. I got it from Nate Sanders (Saunders ?) Autographs. At first, it was for sale along with the letter that it was mailed with in which Mr. Jarvis said that he was enclosing a signed photo and signed patch. Like a dummy I balked at the high price (4K I believe) and the items did not sell.

The letter and patch were separated by Nate and sold separately. Before I realized it, the letter was sold and only the patch remained. I bought the patch and Nate was kind enough to send me a photocopy of the sold letter. I think that they should have remained together.

If anyone reads this that has that original letter, perhaps he can sell me the letter or I can sell him the patch? JUST AN UPDATE: The letter has been found ! I did not find it..another CS'er Named Gary Dick found it on Ebay of all places ! It is for sale for only 18000.00 ! Wow !! At least I finally found it...THANKS GARY !!

Eddie Bizub
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posted 10-31-2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eddie Bizub   Click Here to Email Eddie Bizub     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know how many different autographed patches Eagle One produced? I have 24. I thought I had every one up to that point. Any ideas on quantities produced for each patch?

mama04
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posted 11-01-2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mama04   Click Here to Email mama04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each was limited to 500 pieces, at least that is what it says on the coa.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 11-01-2011 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the best of my knowledge there where 28 different signed patches in the series. 18x5" round patches, (Mercury to Skylab), 9x5" square patches, (Space Shuttle), and one 6x7" oval patch, (not sure why this one was so different from the others).

The 5" round patches are:

  • Alan B. Shepard
  • Alan L. Bean
  • Alfred M. Worden
  • Buzz Aldrin
  • Charles Conrad Jr
  • Deke Slayton
  • Edgar D. Michell
  • Edward G. Gibson
  • Frank Borman
  • Gerald P. Carr
  • James B. Irwin (Signed by Mary Irwin)
  • L. Gorden Cooper
  • M. Scott Carpenter
  • Roger B. Chaffee (Signed by Don L. Chaffee)
  • V.I. Gus Grissom (Signed by Betty Grissom)
  • Walter Cunningham
  • Walter M. Schirra
  • William R. Pogue
The 5" square patches are:
  • Bruce E. Melnick
  • Bruce McCandless II
  • Byron K. Lichtenberg
  • David C. Hilmers
  • James C. Adamson
  • John M. Fabian
  • Karol J. Bobko
  • Mike Mulane
  • Robert L. Stewart
The 7"x6" oval patch is:
  • Edward G. Gibson
If anyone knows of anymore please add them to this list. Many thanks.

OV-105
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posted 11-01-2011 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they did a Skylab 3 auto'ed by all 3 crew members.

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