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X-Plane Fan
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posted 08-04-2011 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a new 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) patch floating around NASA Dryden Flight Research Center.

jefespace
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posted 08-05-2011 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jefespace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you happen to know of a source to purchase this patch from?

p51
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posted 04-07-2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's one on eBay right now.

If you can get to Edwards, I've heard they can easily purchased there. A USAF pal of mine went TDY there last month and got me one, he said he bought it on base but can't recall if it was a AAFES vendor there or he bought it at clothing sales...

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 04-08-2012 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one currently on eBay at the moment is lot No. 220991944023.

The previous eight sales range from $39.99 in October 2011, to $11.00 in December 2011. With others fetching, $31.01, $12.51, $15.50, $12.99, $13.50, and $24.50.

X-Plane Fan
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posted 04-08-2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those patches are being sold through the NASA DFRC gift shop for about $6. The 747 SCA guys also have a few they'll be selling during their trek.

Apollo 8
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posted 04-08-2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, these patches are not rare, old or limited - but they are beautiful. Is there an online store for the NASA DFRC gift shop? I could not find it on Google.

Gonzo
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posted 04-09-2012 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked yesterday and the DFRC just opened their gift shop back up March 1st. As of yet, I couldn't find an online store for them.

Yeah, I had the same thought - buy it online from the gift shop. But it doesn't look like that will happen any time soon.

Gonzo
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posted 04-10-2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From another thread, you can call the gift shop directly.
All you need is a credit card, call them at 661-276-2113 or 661 276-2140.
Does this help?

p51
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posted 04-10-2012 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very nice lady named Linda Clark at the gift shop said there's a internal website listing of their items for NASA Dryden people only. They don't have a website or even a list of items they give out to the public yet.

She did say they were apparently working on that, though. I'd bet the frenzy over the shuttle delivery patches might speed that on.

I for one would probably buy other stuff they have if I only knew what they had there...

Gonzo
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posted 04-11-2012 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto on that and God's speed to them! I would buy stuff from them more if it was available. (Hint! Hint! Hope they're reading this...)

dogcrew5369
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posted 04-21-2012 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I called yesterday and was put on the list for the Shuttle Carriers of America patch. They will call you back and get the payment info upon arrival of the patches. All they needed was my address and phone number when I called to order.

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posted 05-28-2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dougie69   Click Here to Email dougie69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this patch up on ebay.

Gonzo
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posted 06-07-2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone heard any updates on when DRFC may get these in? I'm on the wating list and have heard nothing for a couple weeks now. Thought about calling, but thought I'd check with the crew here first.

fredtrav
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posted 06-07-2012 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked last week and they were estimating two weeks. Seems the first order was lost in the mail and they were having them remade and shipped. That is the reason for the delay. I will be calling later to add some more to my order and if I get an update I will post it here.

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posted 06-07-2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These should be shipping out from the patch company soon and it takes a week to get across the country. I'll post a note once I have a more precise date.

Gonzo
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posted 06-18-2012 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any updates? Thanks!

X-Plane Fan
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posted 06-19-2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got word from the factory that these are shipping out today, so they should be available by the middle of next week.

The reason for the delay was that someone at HQ thought the font used on the yellow 'NASA' was too close to that used in the NASA meatball so it had to be changed.

The revised patch now looks like this:

Gonzo
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posted 06-19-2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great. So now we have to look for the original along with this new "changed" version.

Anyone have an original for sale? (Contact me if you do...)

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 06-19-2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But isn't that the point, that the SCA is operated by NASA? Did they have permission from Boeing to use the '747' in their special font?

Spaceguy5
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posted 06-19-2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA HQ is pretty strict about how the official emblems are used. For example, they don't want individual parts of the meatball being used by themselves, except with certain exceptions.

Gonzo
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posted 06-20-2012 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right. And I understand and even agree with their diligence on who and how their logos can be used. The point was the patch was already in production. That is, it was already released in the form it was with the font that was very similar to their logo. It wasn't until the second run of these patches that they decided that it was too close to their logo and "HQ" decided it had to be changed.

I understand that, in a strict sense, SCA is NOT a NASA run organization. However, they are very closely monitored and directed how to do their business, by NASA.

My point was that why did it take NASA until the second run of the patches, when they had to approve the design in the first place, that the font needed changed?

For us as collectors, now there's two versions of this patch. Not that it's a bad thing, and they certainly have the right to change patch designs at will (they are their patches), my question is, if that is their concern, why wasn't it caught before the patch went into production?

garymilgrom
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posted 06-20-2012 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think NASA is foolish to insist on this change. The new typeface is bland and unoriginal.

NASA has a glorious past. They should be proud of this and let others use the logos and typefaces that were seen on previous efforts.

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posted 06-20-2012 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One word: GOVERNMENT

X-Plane Fan
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posted 06-20-2012 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found a few of the original versions in my stash, I'll sell them for $5 each plus shipping if anyone is interested. I also found a few of the old SCA/Phantom Ray Ferry Flight patches as well. Just drop me a note.

I believe the SCA guys have a limited amount of the original version to sell when they make the Endeavour delivery later this year.

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posted 06-20-2012 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spaceguy5:
NASA HQ is pretty strict about how the official emblems are used.

Understandably so, but when I read this, I couldn't help but say, "Really..?" This is, as other posters noted, a patch already produced, and someone else shortstopped another run (at, presumably, the manufacturer's expense) because they didn't like the "NASA" font? We all endlessly (and rightly) bemoan NASA's budgetary struggles...Yet apparently there's still enough money to pay some factotum somewhere at HQ so bereft of useful duties that they have the time and energy to regulate things like this.

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posted 06-23-2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 747 SCA and Phantom Ray patches are now all sold. Thanks to everyone who bought them.

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posted 06-24-2012 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tony (X-Plane-Fan) for the offer!

Michael Clemente
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posted 06-24-2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Clemente   Click Here to Email Michael Clemente     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tony, thanks so much for making them available. looking forward to receive mine and add it to my collection.

Gonzo
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posted 06-25-2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Tony! Received mine Saturday (2 days ago). Looking forward to getting the "new" version to with them! (Later this week?)

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posted 06-25-2012 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks to Tony for hooking me up with a pair of these (arrived today). I don't normally get too wrapped around the axle over minor variations, but as noted above, this change just seemed silly.

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posted 06-25-2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The revised SCA patches have arrived and will be delivered to the DFRC gift shop on Tuesday morning.

Gonzo
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posted 06-27-2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, just talked to Jim at DFRC a while ago about my order. He/they will be calling tomorrow to get your shipping/payment info. The will then go out as soon as they contact you. I happen to call because I'll be on vacation for the next few days and didn't want to miss the call! Jim was great and took my info a bit early to accommodate me!

Anyway, be patient. They have the patches and will be contacting you very shortly!

By the way, gotta put this plug in here too. The folks (all of them) at DFRC are SUPER people to deal with. Can't say enough good things about them. Nor can I wait until they get their website up (in a couple of months...)!

p51
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posted 08-04-2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I scored a Alpha Industries shuttle jacket in the right color blue (not a perfect copy of the G&B jackets the crews really wear but it's a nice looking jacket anyway) off eBay for very little recently and decided to put this and the "final mission" patch on it along with a T-38 one, I think it really looks good on that color...

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posted 08-05-2012 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does look good!

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posted 08-05-2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I got two sets of the patches on this jacket, just so I could eventually put one on something I could wear and keep another set for collecting purposes.

Some would say I should have put a newer SCA patch on the shoulder because the older one will be worth more someday, but I wanted a patch that was more likely to have been really used by the SCA crew at some point.

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I want to make a presentation with flown material and pictures and need the graphical insignias of the Shuttle carriers of America. Does anyone know where to get the graphical logos (the old one with blue frame as well as the new one with yellow frame). I've just found embroidered patches on the web but not the graphic itself.

Thanks in advance.

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posted 12-14-2012 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E-mail sent.

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