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Spacemac
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posted 10-07-2010 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacemac   Click Here to Email Spacemac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Does anyone have the latest on when these might ship from AB?
I just got an email yesterday from Kati:
Hopefully in the next week. We are putting them together in the factory (on the headers) now.

andrewcli
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posted 10-09-2010 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my patches from Galactic Voyager today after ordering them on the 7th - outstanding! The patches are really nice and so much better than the souvenir versions.

Thank you Gene Dorr and AB Emblem for making this project a reality.

astroborg
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posted 10-12-2010 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received my set, directly from AB emblem. Each patch was individually packaged, in plastic, with the card described earlier in this topic providing some background information on how this release came to be. Thanks Gene, and AB!

andrewcli - did your set include the cards?

benguttery
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posted 10-12-2010 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Galactic Voyager on eBay has them a bit cheaper than directly from AB. AB sells them for $6.99 per patch plus $7.50 shipping (total $63.42). Galactic Voyager sells the set for $50.93 including about $1 shipping.

It's funny, I don't feel $13 better for getting them directly from AB.

andrewcli
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posted 10-12-2010 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The deal from Galactic Voyager is no different than what Herald is doing for the Euro group, a discount for large number orders (10). Galactic just bought more (30+). BTW, it appears that Galactic is located in Houston.

Regarding packaging, the patches are individually wrapped as seen on his website. On the back, there is a card, about 5x4 inches discussing the design of the patch described by Gene and the launch date of the mission with the picture of the original patch and AB's emblem on the lower left corner. I am surprised that Galactic received the patches early, but then again he sells a lot of AB patches so he must have a good rapport with them.

Gilbert
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posted 10-13-2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got the Gemini set from AB today. The patches are excellent.

benguttery
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posted 10-13-2010 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arrived in Texas today. Look great.

xlsteve
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posted 10-14-2010 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got my patches in MA yesterday, they look great.

backof
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posted 10-14-2010 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for backof   Click Here to Email backof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine arrived today. These are excellent. I'm surprised at the variation in the sizes of the patches compared to the patches in the Apollo and Shuttle programs.

That Gemini 8 patch is a real beauty!

The individual packaging was a really nice surprise.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-15-2010 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received mine yesterday (Denver), and they are indeed gorgeous. As Backof posted above, the variance in size was a bit surprising, but not extreme...I can only assume that was an accurate reflection of the vintage examples Gene & AB worked from.

I'm really glad I got two sets. I'll keep one in the individual packaging, and frame the other with my Molly Brown and Novaspace GT-4 patches.

If you're on the fence about these, I can't recommend them highly enough.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-15-2010 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The patches arrived here a couple of days ago.

I agree that the entire set is superb but I must highlight the Gemini 5, as it is really everything I could have hoped from a replica.

I'm not a huge fan of replica patches and I don't collect them but I've wanted a faithful example of the first space mission patch for quite some time and between the felt border and the covered Conestoga with its hidden text, I really couldn't ask for more.

benguttery
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posted 10-19-2010 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought an extra Gemini 5 patch and removed the covering from the wagon to expose the original message "8 Days or Bust." It was rather tedious, but is doable. The message is indeed under the cover and looks great in the light of day.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-21-2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by benguttery:
I bought an extra Gemini 5 patch and removed the covering from the wagon to expose the original message "8 Days or Bust."

Great idea, but I've only seen these available (from AB or elsewhere) as a set. Where were you able to purchase a "spare" GT-5?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 10-21-2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Galactic Voyager on eBay lot No. 270648606620 at $6.99 + shipping. There are 3 left.

Now All SOLD.

benguttery
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posted 10-22-2010 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed Galactic was the only one willing to sell them individually. I have no doubt AB could sell some without the cover, but that is their decision.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-22-2010 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by benguttery:
Indeed Galactic was the only one willing to sell them individually. I have no doubt AB could sell some without the cover, but that is their decision.

Managed to snag one from them...any advice/direction (other than "Be careful!") on removing the cloth? Did you use an X-Acto or similar knife?

benguttery
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posted 10-23-2010 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tools required: very sharp and pointy X-acto, magnifying glass (or glasses), and a steady hand. The rubbery backing on the patch makes it more difficult. Take your time. Do a little and quit for a while.

Apollo 8
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posted 11-11-2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Hunt posted some interesting pictures of his Gemini patches here! I have McDivitt´s Gemini 4 Patch from Novaspace, but I have never seen this ORIGINAL Gemini 3 patch with the unsinkable Molly Brown before, only on Tim Gagnon´s large Gemini Commemorative Patch. Where did you get this beautiful rare Gemini 3 patch, Bill? Is it still available anywhere?

moorouge
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posted 11-11-2010 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try mailing gusmobile@earthlink.net. He may have some left.

Bill Hunt
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posted 11-11-2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I purchased the original Gemini 3 at auction from a NASA spacesuit technician several years ago. It's vintage, and as far as I know only a very small number were made by Young and Grissom for their own use after the flight. (Young wore one on his NASA flightsuit for many years.)

However, as moorouge said, there should still be some of the fine John Berry replicas available. I actually assisted John in producing these with reference measurements and images of my own patch. AB Emblems manufactured them, but they weren't available for sale widely.

You can still find them for sale here on John's order page.

Apollo 8
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posted 11-12-2010 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, great! Thank you, I will order one.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 11-18-2010 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, as the Gemini patch sets are on their way to the European cS patch collectors -some already reached their final destination- I wish to thank Kati from AB Emblem for her very appreciated support.

It was a pleasure to undertake this endeavour which was kind of a challenge and I learned a lot during that time frame.

KAPTEC
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posted 11-18-2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harald, patches arrived at Madrid. I have no words to describe them and only could say... how can I thank you for this? Cheers my deutscher Freund.

Rick Mulheirn
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I would like to thank Harald on record for going to all the trouble of ordering the Gemini reproduction patches on behalf of a number of us.

A very magnanimous gesture that collectively saved us a lot of cash at the expense of Harald's time.

Thanks Harald!

butch wilks
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posted 11-19-2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got the set too now and I too would like to thank Harald for all his hard work on this for us. Well done and thanks Harald.

lucspace
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posted 11-19-2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got my set in today. Compliments to Harald for excellent service, info and packaging. Hats off!

Kevin T. Randall
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Mine also arrived safely in the mail today. Super patches, many thanks for all your help in this venture Harald. You are a real gent!

GoesTo11
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posted 11-20-2010 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, like poster benguttery, I bought an extra GT-5 patch from Galactic Voyager with the intent of cutting away the cloth covering the "8 Days or Bust" slogan and displaying it as such.

By way of a new razor blade and a very small tweezers, I was able to remove the covering cloth fairly easily. However, I was then confronted with another line of stitching around the wagon train's canvas cover that still partially obscured the "Or Bust" and had to be removed stitch by stitch. Tedious.

In the end, I managed to do it without damaging the base patch, and it's worthy of display, so I'm happy. But if you're thinking about doing this, be advised that it's more work than would first appear, and requires the right tools, good eyes, a steady pair of hands, and a lot of patience.

Peter Kemp
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posted 11-21-2010 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Kemp   Click Here to Email Peter Kemp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've already sent Harald a private email but would also like to publicly join my fellow UK and European based collectSPACE forum members in thanking him for the excellent job he did in organising the purchase of these sets of Gemini Patches for us.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 11-21-2010 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks for your kind words.

As said it was a pleasure.

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These patches look terrific! I'll now have to buy two sets.

Thanks Gene Dorr and AB Emblem.

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Of all the crew and crew souvenir patches from the Gemini project, one of my favourite designs is the Gemini 7 Crew Souvenir patch which has the insignia at the center and the crew names and mission around the edges.

This patch is extremely rare, and apart from the handful of examples carried by the crew on the flight very few have appeared on the market over the past few years (the two unflown examples I've seen sold for $810 and $1045).

With all this in mind I decided to have a replica of this design produced to go with the AB Crew Patch replica set detailed above, and after a long and detailed design process (and excellent support from Kati and the team at AB Emblem) the finished patches should be with me shortly.

I'll post here when the patches go on sale but I just thought I'd give people a heads-up that they're on their way.

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posted 12-02-2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another great initiative! This thing is leading to some wonderful patches for collectors. With the earlier Gemini 3 and 4 reproductions, AB's new set and this latest addition, we're lucky to finally get our hands on some great 'truthful' reproductions!

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posted 12-02-2010 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's what an original, Gemini 7 patch with crew names looks like. It's mounted on the base for a Gemini Spacecraft shaped acrylic that contains a section of flown Gemini 7 heatshield.

It is a great looking patch!

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In terms of numbers it's likely that Borman and Lovell each carried around the same number of these Gemini 7 patches on the flight as Schirra did on Gemini 6, which is to say 15 each.

Apart from 30-odd flown patches, a significant number of these crew souvenir patches were mounted alongside flown flags and heatshield fragments in official presentations like the one pictured above.

Whether the original production run was 50, 100 or 150, it's probably not surprising that so few examples turn up for sale these days.

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posted 12-23-2010 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raptor79   Click Here to Email Raptor79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are the patches attached to the headercard?

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A few blobs of surprisingly tough rubberised glue.

It is generally possible to pull a patch off without damaging the card but other times the card will get bent or the surface will rip. The patches aren't affected in any case as the backs are coated and the glue comes off cleanly.

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AB Emblem really did a great job with these 2010 remakes.

The Gemini 12 replica matches the original artwork more closely than the crew patch. In most cases the colours and weave direction are spot on. However with Gemini 11 the blue background is a little too dark but otherwise is a perfect remake.

The attention to detail is amazing like the Gemini 5 - covered wagon with its hidden text or the Gemini 8 with the inward-bowed verticals for the "II" Gemini symbol.

Gemini 6, 9, and 10 are perfect replicas.

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So my Gemini 7 Crew Souvenir Patch replica is finally available, as noted on this thread. Here's what it looks like:

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What an awesome patch. Congratulations!


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