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Raptor79
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posted 12-23-2010 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raptor79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are the patches attached to the headercard?

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posted 12-24-2010 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few blobs of surprisingly tough rubberised glue.

It is generally possible to pull a patch off without damaging the card but other times the card will get bent or the surface will rip. The patches aren't affected in any case as the backs are coated and the glue comes off cleanly.

Raptor79
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posted 12-25-2010 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raptor79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem really did a great job with these 2010 remakes.

The Gemini 12 replica matches the original artwork more closely than the crew patch. In most cases the colours and weave direction are spot on. However with Gemini 11 the blue background is a little too dark but otherwise is a perfect remake.

The attention to detail is amazing like the Gemini 5 - covered wagon with its hidden text or the Gemini 8 with the inward-bowed verticals for the "II" Gemini symbol.

Gemini 6, 9, and 10 are perfect replicas.

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posted 01-05-2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So my Gemini 7 Crew Souvenir Patch replica is finally available, as noted on this thread. Here's what it looks like:

Raptor79
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posted 01-05-2011 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raptor79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an awesome patch. Congratulations!

Gonzo
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posted 08-30-2012 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I snagged a set of these reproductions "Gene had made." What can I say besides, "Wow! These are awesome!" Very well produced. Some of the best looking patches I've seen.

Great job all on a really super set of reproductions for Gemini! Thanks all for your efforts!

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posted 08-30-2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can still order sets of these patches direct from the AB website here.

butch wilks
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posted 08-31-2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this a new run of them by AB Emblem as I thought they only made up 200 sets? And that they sold out some time ago, did they not?

onesmallstep
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posted 09-02-2012 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have a set of these excellent patches, and hope to put up a nice wall display with them.

A question for those already displaying or planning to: Many here on cS have used the GT-3 Molly Brown and GT-4 McDivitt-approved patches as part of their displays. But shouldn't an American flag of the style used on Gemini suits also be put up, as the Gemini 4 crew stated that would be their crew patch?

It could get crowded on any collector's wall display, what with the covered/uncovered Gemini 5 patches, the blue/black Gemini program insignia etc. A happy problem for any space fan!

Spaceguy5
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posted 09-02-2012 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I was considering trying to find an American flag to display with mine. One thing to remember: Their American flag was not embroidered. Does anyone know the approximate size and material?

Bill Nelson
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posted 09-02-2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Nelson   Click Here to Email Bill Nelson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a good photo of Buzz Aldrin's American flag that he wore during Gemini 12. It appears to basically be a small desk flag.

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posted 09-06-2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally received my set today. Very, very nice patches, although I don't like how they mounted them to the informational cards. The backing on a few of mine were damaged in the process of removing them. I'm glad I at least have a huge roll of iron-on backing, so I can repair them.

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posted 09-06-2012 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by butch wilks:
Is this a new run of them by AB Emblem...
I've been told they produced a new run after the original sold out. I don't believe this was ever designated as a limited edition.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-12-2020 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A second and third production run was made during May and June 2011 for the Gemini 5 through to Gemini 12 patches. The first, second and third production runs are as follows;

First;

  • Gemini 5 - 4.2" round 128431 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 6 - 4" wide x 3.5" high hexagon 129303 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 7 - 3.3" round 141255 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 8 - 3.2" round 141265 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 9 - 4" wide x 3" high 142070 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 10 - 3.1" round x 4" at the widest points 142951 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 11 - 3" wide x 4.3" high 144744 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 12 - 3.1" round 144745 ---- 09. 10. 14 (China)
Second and third production runs are the same sizes as above;
  • Gemini 5 - 128431 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 5 - 128431 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 6 - 129303 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 6 - 129303 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 7 - 141255 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 7 - 141255 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 8 - 141265 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 9 - 142070 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 10 - 142951 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 10 - 142751 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 11 - 144744 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 11 - 144744 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 12 - 144745 ---- 05. 11. 14 (China)
  • Gemini 12 - 144745 ---- 06. 11. 14 (China
All the first production run patches sold out within a month.
There may well of been a third production run of the Gemini 8 and 9 patches, but they have not yet been reported.

All the above patches were sold mounted onto a black information card and sealed with a second information card in a cellophane packet.

For the Gemini 8 patch the second card had the wrong launch date of December 4, 1965. A corrected card with March 16, 1966 was produced and included separately, loose from the sealed packet for some of the early first production run packets. Later the December 1965 cards were removed and replaced with the March 1966 cards.

In part of the description for the Gemini 6 through to Gemini 12 patches the AB Emblem website says;

"This series is not currently being manufactured and will be unavailable once existing stock is depleted."

This part of the description has remained unchanged since around 2012 or 2013.

A few of the second and in some cases third production run patches are still available in small numbers to buy from the AB Emblem website, (except Gemini 10 which sold out in October 2019), and Gemini 5 (just a hand full of the originals are left to be sold in the packaged set of now ten patches).

One other notable AB Emblem reproduction which deserves a mention here is the earlier Gemini 3 patch produced privately in 2008 and 2009 by crew member John Young, it is;

  • Gemini 3 (The Molly Brown) 249672 Made In China 12/09 10 (earlier production runs of this patch made during 2008 didn't have embedded labels on them, this was prior to labels being attached).

Two more AB Emblem privately commissioned reproductions are the Crewpatches 3" Blue Gemini Program and the 3.8" Gemini Seven Crew Souvenir patches;
  • Blue Gemini Program 194848 Made In China 05 12 04
  • Gemini Seven Crew Souvenir 171289 ---- 12/10/20 (USA)
In July 2018 two more patches were added to the eight Gene Dorr carded sets, Gemini 3 and Gemini 4. They are both 3.5" round. Only the first date code of 07/1840 on both patches are found in the packets. All the others are sold as loose patches. The date codes are as follows;
  • Gemini 3 - 298029 A-B Emblem China 07/1840
  • Gemini 3 - 298029 A-B Emblem China 10/1840 seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 3 - 298029 A-B Emblem China 05/19 40 (seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 3 - 298029. A-B Emblem 02/19 20 (USA) Year date code error, should read 02/20 20

  • Gemini 4 - 298024 A-B Emblem China 07/1840 seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 4 - 298024 A-B Emblem China 12/1840 seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 4 - 298024 A-B Emblem China 05/19 40
  • Gemini 4 - 298024 A-B Emblem China 01/20 40
  • Gemini 4 - 15966 A-B Emblem China 05/19 40 (SKU number label error, reported that it has the discontinued 3" patch SKU number on it)

  • Gemini 10 - 142951 A-B Emblem China 11/19 40 (the old SKU number), this is the only date code found for sale from the AB Emblem website so far)
As the original 4.2" Gemini 5 patch is almost sold out now, another version has been manufactured. This revised version is smaller at 3.5" round, and has had the "8 Days or Bust" motif removed from under the wagon canopy.
  • Gemini 5 - 298902 A-B Emblem China 10/1840 seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 5 - 298902 A-B Emblem China 10/19 40 Sold as loose patches.
Most of the other Gene Dorr Gemini patches are also in the process of being revised. Some smaller but most larger in size. All these are sold as loose patches. The ones revised so far are the following;
  • Gemini Program 298439 A-B Emblem China 08/19 40 (larger at 3.5" round)
  • Gemini 6 - 129303 A-B Emblem China 11/19 40 seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 6 - 298434 (Not found yet)
  • Gemini 7 - 298438 A-B Emblem China 05/19 40 (larger at 3.5" round) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 8 - 298442 A-B Emblem China 10/1840 (larger at 3.6" round) seen on JSC sales cards.
  • Gemini 8 - 298442 A-B Emblem China 04/19 40 (larger at 3.6" round)
  • Gemini 9 - 142070 A-B Emblem China 10/19 40 (same size as original. Probably an error as it has the old SKU number too)
  • Gemini 9 - 298435 A-B Emblem China 10/19 40 (smaller at 3.8" wide x 2.5" high, has same date code as the Gemini 9 patch above)
  • Gemini 10 - 298437 (Not found yet)
  • Gemini 11 - 298440 (Not found yet)
  • Gemini 11 - 144744 A-B Emblem China 03/20 40 (probably an Error as it has the old SKU number instead of the new one)
  • Gemini 12 - 144745 A-B Emblem China 11/19 40 (original SKU number and 3" round size)
  • Gemini 12 - 298436 A-B Emblem China 10/1840 (larger at 3.5" round) seen on JSC sales cards.
I can confirm that all the sizes and date codes listed above are correct. I will update these lists as and when other patch sizes, SKU numbers and date codes are found and reported. If anyone has any further details or information please let us know by posting it on this thread.

Note; Only the 3.5" revised Gemini Program patch is currently available to buy from the AB Emblem website at this time. The other revised Gemini 5 through to Gemini 12 patches are only available from a very few of AB Emblem's agents and retailers. (Only three found so far, two in the United Kingdom and one in Texas).

AB Emblem has produced a photo poster of the 11 Gene Dorr Gemini patches. This poster can be seen on the Skyforce Space Patches and The Space Store websites. The 11 patches all have their original old SKU patch design numbers beneath them. Only the Gemini 3 and Gemini 4 patches have the new revised SKU numbers starting with 298 - - - on the poster unfortunately.

Update: 16th September 2020.
Conformation of some Gene Dorr Gemini patches available on JSC sales cards from retailer Space Traders, JSC, Texas.


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