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Robert Pearlman
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Expedition 23 will be the 23nd long duration mission on-board the International Space Station (ISS).

Expedition 23 begins with the Soyuz TMA-16 undocking in March 2010. Three new crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz TMA-18.

  • Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Kotov, station commander
  • JAXA astronaut Soichi Noguchi
  • NASA astronaut T.J. Creamer
  • Roscosmos cosmonauts Alexsandr Skvortsov and Mikhail Korniyenko, as well as NASA astronaut Tracy Caldwell, who will launch in April 2010 on Soyuz TMA-18 and return in September 2010 on the same vehicle

Jacques van Oene
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posted 07-30-2009 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Expedition 23 begins with the Soyuz TMA-16 undocking in March 2010. Three new crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz TMA-18.
I believe that Soyuz TMA-18 will dock first at ISS and then Soyuz TMA-16 will undock...

Mike Okuda
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posted 07-30-2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Okuda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very elegant design!

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posted 07-30-2009 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations Tim and Jorge! A clue on Tim's website:
Then later that year Tim and Jorge were asked by astronaut TJ Creamer to design the Expedition 22 and 23 increment mission emblems...

hoorenz
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posted 07-30-2009 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jacques van Oene:
I believe that Soyuz TMA-18 will dock first at ISS and then Soyuz TMA-16 will undock...

TMA-16 undock: March 18
TMA-18 launch: April 2

NavySpaceFan
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posted 07-30-2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim/Jorge, well done!!!!

GoesTo11
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posted 08-07-2009 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice work, guys. Like Expedition 20 and STS-127, a very 21st-century design. Expedition 21 and 22 were major misfires (IMO of course), so this is a welcome return to form.

KAPTEC
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posted 08-10-2009 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unlikely, Exp. 21 patch had a very similar shape to our Exp. 22 one... Knowing it we would have changed it in a very quite different shape.

(Anyway, I still like the idea of the patch, watching the Earth from the ISS...)

KSCartist
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posted 08-10-2009 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that Jeff Williams liked our Exp. 22 patch for that reason - it was an easy transition from Exp. 21 to Exp. 22.

The thing to remember is Jorge and I submitted our design for Exp. 22 months before Exp. 21 was released so there's no way we could have known what Lena de Winne was creating - nor did she know what we were up to.

Love them or hate them it's the crew's decision.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-09-2009 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the permission of the crew, here is the name version of the patch:

This version of the patch will not be official until after the crew launches.

dogcrew5369
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posted 11-11-2009 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know when this patch will become available from AB Emblem considering 21 and 22 became available very close together?

GoesTo11
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posted 11-11-2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YUCK. Looked SO much better without the names. But I understand why they produce these.

By the way, I think the source of my confusion regarding name/no-name ISS patches, which led to my query on the Expedition 24 patch thread, is that I haven't seen Expedition 16, 18 or 19 patches with surnames. That's why I wondered if all ISS expedition patches are being produced in "names" and "no-names" versions.

Clarification? Robert? Anyone?

KAPTEC
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posted 11-12-2009 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can tell you that Exp. 23, 25, 26 and 27 had/will have two versions: with and without names. In the case of Exp. 22 we made it with names (and the crew themselves made the no names version after it). As Robert told us before, all the crews are making now a no named version in anticipation of a last minute crew change, and also, a named one who becomes official after the launch of all the astronauts/cosmonauts involved on the patch.

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posted 11-12-2009 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bit off topic, but when did Tracy Caldwell become Tracy Caldwell-Dyson?

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posted 11-12-2009 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just after getting married...

NavySpaceFan
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posted 11-12-2009 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KAPTEC:
Just after getting married...

HA, funny! Seriously, congrats to her and her I guess new, husband.

KAPTEC
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posted 11-12-2009 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously, Navy, I believe it was many months ago...

Shalene
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posted 11-16-2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shalene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As you can see from this photo taken here at the Museum, she was signing her name that way in July this year.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-17-2009 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem has received official approval of their Expedition 23 patch from NASA and production has begun.

Robert Pearlman
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An error was recently discovered in the design of the Expedition 23 insignia and judging by the photos taken today of the Soyuz TMA-17 crew at their pre-launch press conference, the patches they are wearing have now been corrected.

Based on the orientation of the U.S. flag, the Russian flag was reproduced on the official artwork (and therefore on the produced-to-date patches and pins) reversed. Rather than appearing as it should (from left to right) white, blue and red, the art had the order of the colors flipped.

In this photo of TJ Creamer, and in others taken of Soichi Noguchi and Oleg Kotov, you can see that the patch displays the Russian colors properly.

There is no word yet if AB Emblem will similarly correct their now commercially available reproductions, nor what company produced the new patches for the crew. NASA has yet to update the artwork on its website, as well.


Credit: Bill Ingalls/NASA

KSCartist
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posted 12-19-2009 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to set the record straight. The question of flag orientation was addressed during the designing of the patch.

Having the Russian flag appear with colors red, blue, white as at the top of this thread was approved by the crew.

It was only last week that TJ emailed me to say that the flag was incorrect. The rule of protocol states that the upper left hand corner of the flag as it flies on a pole should remain the upper left hand corner when the flag is displayed vertically.

Get the incorrect ones while you can folks - they won't last long.

KAPTEC
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posted 12-19-2009 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We talked about it about more than eight months ago, isn't it Tim? And then the crew was okay with the view: both (Russia and USA flags) were hanging in a mirror way from the Japan flag...

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posted 12-19-2009 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The crew might have approved it, but even astronauts and cosmonauts have bosses...

KSCartist
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posted 12-20-2009 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you are correct but what I was trying to say is that even the "bosses" missed this detail in the approval process.

When the question was raised with the crew and Oleg signed off on it, Jorge and I assumed the orientation of the flag was correct. I am surprised that NASA and Roscosmos missed it during the formal approval process.

Just another interesting story to add to your site.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-21-2009 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA has updated their official artwork (though it has yet to populate through their websites) to reflect the change to the Russian flag.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-25-2010 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This insignia's official description:
The focal point of the Expedition XXIII emblem illustrates the beautiful planet Earth in the black expanse of space.

The International Space Station (ISS) is shown traveling in its orbit around Earth. The ISS orbital path flies through the XXIII to show that this increment is building upon the missions that have gone on before and laying the groundwork for future missions. This illustrates the work being performed aboard the orbiting complex that will lead the way to eventual missions to the moon, Mars and beyond.

The mission designation uses Roman numerals to illustrate the home nations of the crew, which are also represented by their national flags. The two stars represent the two teams that make up this expedition crew.

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posted 01-25-2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The two stars represent the two teams that make up this expedition crew
Not only...

hoorenz
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posted 01-26-2010 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me guess... Tim and Jorge?

KAPTEC
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posted 01-26-2010 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the Oscar goes to... The Netherlands!

Mike Z
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Where is the (corrected) version available? Other than AB Emblem, $7.50 is too much for shipping one 4" patch especially this one that can fit in any standard envelope.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-26-2010 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the best of my knowledge, corrected patches have yet to begin shipping.

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posted 02-18-2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received a batch from AB Emblem with the coded stickers...but they are still the original version, not the corrected ones.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 02-19-2010 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my Exp.23 patch at the end of January and it was the "wrong" version. I then asked AB regarding the new version and they sent it to me some days ago.

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