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posted 03-24-2009 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the 'holy grails' of the Shuttle patches must surely be the STS-51E patch with a Baudry-only tab. Well, I've not found one of those, but I did get one step closer...

As most of you probably know both AB Emblem and Swissartex produced versions of the STS-51E patch which incorporated a Baudry-only tab in a one-piece cut-edge patch.

When Senator Garn was added to the crew a month before the scheduled lift-off these patches needed to be re-made. Both companies went for the option of trimming away the Baudry tab by hand and then attaching a separate Baudry/Garn name tab to the patch body.

Most examples of AB Emblem's resulting patch still show some traces of the original tab where the pale blue border joined the main patch body at the first "D" of Seddon and the "S" of Griggs.

Swissartex apparently decided to try to hide these traces by adding a thick blue merrowed edge around the entire patch body, with a matching border on the sewn-on tab, as shown in the example below.

While I've never seen an example of an original Baudry-only patch, recently I did manage to acquire an example of the Swissartex patch that has not had this merrowed border applied, as shown below.

This allows you to get an idea of the way their STS-51E patch originally looked, complete with the traces of the trimmed-away Baudry-only name tab. It was actually quite a nice version of the patch before the thick blue border was applied.

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posted 03-26-2009 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About three weeks ago, someone on eBay sold a Baudry decal with the tab.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 03-26-2009 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I won it on Wednesday 11th March. It was one of a set of three Challenger mission decals. Lot No. 370168356223. All three decals were in mint condition. Only one other bidder for this lot.

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posted 03-26-2009 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The decals are not that uncommon to be honest, although still nice to have.

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posted 03-27-2009 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha ha, I was the other bidder. Thought nobody was else was interested. What was the high price you were willing to pay?

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posted 03-27-2009 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've not seen another one of these 'Baudry Only' decals for sale on eBay or anywhere else for a long time, (years), so when I saw this I placed it on my 'watch list'. I was quite surprised to win this set of three decals for $26 with only one other bidder. I was expecting a few more bids from other collectors in the last few seconds of the sale. (My maximum was $35.55.)

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posted 03-27-2009 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a period patch with the Baudry-only tab that Chris mentioned to start this thread, which I believe was made by Swissartex.

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posted 03-27-2009 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With John's permission I'll maybe post a picture of his patch later.

It's certainly got an intact Baudry-only tab but I was suprised to see that it had the thick blue border added around the whole thing. Maybe they intended their patch to look that way, but I always thought they added that border to the trimmed body in order to cover the traces of the cut, then added a matching border to the new tab.

Why they would want to add the same border to an intact Baudry-only tab is a mystery. My only suspicion is that perhaps this was done after the Baudry-Garn tab version was released.

At the time of the cancellation of the mission maybe they were left with some un-cut Baudry-only patches as well as the stock they'd already converted into Baudry-Garns.

The only value of either set of patches was as souvenirs of a cancelled mission so perhaps they finished-off any remaining Baudry-only patches with a border to match the Baudry-Garns and then sold them off too.

All just idle speculation of course.

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posted 03-27-2009 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SPACEFACTS   Click Here to Email SPACEFACTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The official NASA artwork of the Baudry-only patch.

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posted 03-27-2009 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's John Bisney Swissartex example:

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posted 04-07-2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was high bidder ($26) for a Baudry tab decal among 10 other shuttle decals recently.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 04-07-2012 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes these decals don't come up very often. It was part of lot No. 160748726348, and I was the guy you beat into second place with your bid of $26.55. There was one other bidder, who placed three lower bids. There was five bids in total.

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posted 04-11-2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see you were bidding on a second patch. I learned my lession and bid high for it.

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posted 04-04-2013 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A second example of this ultra rare Swissartex STS-51E 'Baudry' only patch, identical to the one John Bisney has (see the above image), has been found in amongst a mixed lot of 13 other mainly shuttle patches from various manufacturers, listed on the French eBay website.

This lot of 14 patches had been listed at least three times since mid December last year, but was only picked up by myself on March 28th.

This lot of 14 patches was with Chris Spain, as he helped me to secure this lot of patches, as the seller did not speak or understand English, and would not ship outside of France.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 04-10-2013 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second recorded example of this ultra rare Swissartex STS-51E 'Baudry' only patch has now arrived safely here in the United Kingdom (along with the other 13 mixed mainly shuttle patches).

An image of the back of this one piece patch, and the front of John Bisney's example can now be seen on the crewpatches website.

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posted 04-11-2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yellow with envy you have one. When are you going to sell it?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 04-11-2013 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not very soon I'm afraid, it's taken me years to find this one. Sorry.

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I worked on the program for over 25 years and I found in my collection of space shuttle memories, I have a one-of-a-kind Launch Team Pin of 51E Bobko, Williams, Seddon, Griggs, Hoffman with flag insignia and Baudry name.

I believe it may be the only design pin (if anyone can give me more history it would greatly be appreciated (Thank you brother for the gift and he worked the program from the testbed Enterprise). I have never seen another one of these ever.

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posted 04-22-2013 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had - emphasis on had - a 41F pin with 'launch team' on back. This was when it was just the five NASA astronauts, no PSs.

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