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lucspace
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posted 10-30-2008 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This could be interesting:
Child's Drawing Will Become the Logo of the Next Soyuz Space Expedition (Roscosmos release)

Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos), facilitated by the space agencies of the other states, as well as by social organizations and mass media, invites children in Russia and other countries to participate in the International contest of children's drawings "Let's Design a Logo for Soyuz TMA-14 Crew."

Soyuz TMA-14 with a Russian cosmonaut, US astronaut and space flight participant aboard is planned for launch in March, 2009.

Soyuz TMA-14 prime and backup crews, Russian cosmonauts and US astronauts expressed their readiness to take active part in selecting the best children's drawings, together with the experts from Roscosmos, other space agencies, and public. One of these drawings will become Soyuz TMA-14 crew's emblem. Approved by Roscosmos Administrator, the emblem gets the status of the official crew logo. The logo-patch is put on the suits of three crew members: a cosmonaut, an astronaut and a spaceflight participant.

The winners (places 1, 2 and 3) will have the opportunity to visit Baikonur space port to participate in the seeing-off ceremony of the Soyuz TMA-14 crew in March next year.

The contest is organized by the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos), the Union of Russian Charity Organizations (URCO). Prime sponsor is the Russian Insurance Center Underwriting Public Company.

The contest is aimed at advancing humanistic ideas in the youth community, stimulating the public to generate healthy social environment, promoting the space activities, developing children's artistic creativity.

The designs (paintings, graphic arts, computer arts) marked "Logo Contest" (in the e-mail subject or on the envelope) shall be mailed to: The Union of Russian Charity Organizations (URCO), 10, Cosmonaut Volkov st., Moscow, 127299, or e-mailed to: sbor@sbornet.ru, from Oct. 25 to Dec. 25, 2008.

Target age group of the International Children's Contest is from 6 to 15. The authors shall provide some personal data, such as detailed mail address and telephone number, together with their patch design drawings. Information about the age of the participant is mandatory. Authorship credibility is under the responsibility of the person submitted the drawing.

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posted 10-30-2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery   Click Here to Email ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to enter for this!

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posted 11-01-2008 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery   Click Here to Email ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone like my design?

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posted 11-01-2008 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice job...however I'm pretty sure that the Russians routinely put the mission commanders name in the middle...as is his position in the crew cabin.

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posted 11-01-2008 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ShuttleDiscovery, good luck in the contest with your design.

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Nice job...however I'm pretty sure that the Russians routinely put the mission commanders name in the middle...as is his position in the crew cabin.

Ok, i'll change it and put Finke, Padalka, Simonyi.

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posted 11-01-2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may also want to print Padalka and Soyuz in Russian (Cyrillic).

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posted 11-01-2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and be less than 14 my friend. Nice job, indeed.

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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
You may also want to print Padalka and Soyuz in Russian (Cyrillic).
Ok, can someone post the name in Russian because I can't really tell from my Expedition 9 patch.
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...and be less than 14 my friend. Nice job, indeed.
I am 14 until May, so I'm fine.

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Originally posted by ShuttleDiscovery:
can someone post the name in Russian
Padalka: Падалка

Soyuz TMA-14: Союз TMA-14

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posted 11-01-2008 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ShuttleDiscovery

Great job! Just a suggestion but you might want to make sure the ISS looks as it will when TMA-14 flies. I'm not sure - but I think STS-119 will fly before TMA-14. If so the solar arrays will be complete.

You've got a great future!

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Originally posted by ShuttleDiscovery:
can someone post the name in Russian
Email me at jcartes2@gmail.com with your email adress. I will be glad to send you the names in cyrillic.

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Just a suggestion but you might want to make sure the ISS looks as it will when TMA-14 flies.
Oh yes I'll change the ISS.

Thanks for your support! I really appreciate it!

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posted 11-03-2008 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery   Click Here to Email ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my new design!

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Simply beautiful!

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posted 11-03-2008 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect! (Glad to see my Soyuz artwork for the TMA-12 on it!) Very good luck. Go ahead to Baikonur!

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It looks like a winner, however...
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(Glad to see my Soyuz artwork for the TMA-12 on it!)
If this is true, and the patch uses Jorge's art, unless Jorge is under 15 as well (which I am pretty sure he is not) I would be concerned with being disqualified for breaking the rules. In my experience, during youth contest's such as these, the one thing judges tend to look for is unassisted artwork...

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Robert, but all the images he could find on oldest patches to recreate the Soyuz may be made by adults...

(And yes, your're right... I'm not under 15. It's a pity)

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I could be wrong, but my understanding of the contest based on solely the release is to have students draw, either by hand or computer, their designs.

I think the originality of the design might weigh more than the art itself, as Roscosmos could always have a professional artist 'polish' the design before it flies.

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I understand what you mean Robert, but I'm not really sure what to do about it. I've looked at some other Soyuz patches and decided to simplify the Soyuz slightly in my patch. Do anyone think I should go any further to change it?

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Great job, Shuttle Discovery! You have my vote... Best of luck to you!

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Good job Shuttle Discovery. May I say something?: try to use only two colors in Soyuz, f.e. only the two blues without white, as if the sun were hiting it from above not from behind. Then it would be less similar to the "12".

Good luck my friend. I like too much your patch.

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Okay I'll change it. I'm glad you like my patch!

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Is this better?

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Yes, but no winner, sorry...

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Is this better?
I like the concept, but I'm afraid the Soyuz has morphed into something -- well -- perhaps too adult for this contest. The earlier iterations were better, I think.

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Also, Barratt's name is missing a "t".

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Better, but... why don't you choose a Soyuz image more similar to the TM-31/32 or the TM-34/TMA-1? I think they are better for your design?

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Please, let the kid design something and send it in. The idea is to have someone aged 6 to 15 come up with an orginal idea of his or her own, not to lecture someone in that age group on how to do this.

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ShuttleDiscovery, I know how difficult it is to create something original. Someday I'll have Robert post my first drawings for Skylab, ASTP and the Shuttle. I wrote to everyone I could think of who might offer me advice and who I thought would improve my chances of being selected.

While everyone here only wishes you success and wants to offer you the benefit of our collective experience, trust YOUR instincts.

It has been correctly noted that the judges are looking for YOUR work. Don't worry about being too polished - they will "polish" the chosen art for all of the uses required.

If I were you, I would break out the drawing pad and colored pens and markers and hand draw your original design. By doing that instead of submitting a computer assisted graphic, there can be no doubt that YOU created it. In fact you can even have it Notarized.

I wish you the best. The next art you post should be the one that is already on it's way for consideration.

You are talented and I know your artwork will one day orbit the Earth.

Good Luck and have fun.

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If I were you, I would break out the drawing pad and colored pens and markers and hand draw your original design.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I will hand draw it and send it in.

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Great advice, Tim. Good luck, Shuttle Discovery!

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My 10 old daughter designed this. I helped her a bit with layout and some other suggestions.

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Your daughter did a great job Ken.

I would suggest check spelling. I beleive Barratt has two "T's". I once lost out on a patch job because I misspelled a name.

Also maybe add a line to indicate where the descent module separates from the Service Module.

Good to see young talent.

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Simply... NICE, Ken. Congrats to your daughter.

Correct Tim's indications, send it... and have a good luck.

Anyone of you (Shuttle Discovery or your sister, send us pics from Baikonur).

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Roscosmos update (November 29) with a couple of the designs, some very nice ones!!! (Hint: right click on the images and look up the file names in the properties to see the name and age of the artists)
It is pleasant to say that we have received more than fifty proposals from young artists. Names of the winners will be announced in one month. You can find more information about the Contest and see the best drawings in Roscosmos web-page.

Now Gennady Padalka, Russian cosmonaut, and Michael Barratt, NASA astronaut, look through the drawings also, and they even have picked some favorites. At the end of December, they will select the best proposals. But the Contest is not over yet! Michael and Gennady are looking forward to getting more interesting and attracting logo designs.

The best drawing will appear in the crew logo. After that, it gets approved by Roscosmos Head, and becomes an official emblem of the Soyuz TMA-14 mission. The logo-patch will be put on the space suits of Soyuz TMA-14 crew.

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The winners of the contest will be announced during a press conference in Mission Control Moscow on Monday, December 29. All the artwork submitted can be seen at the Roscosmos website.

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My design is in their site (near the bottom). I have been quite busy preparing for exams lately so I didn't have enough time to hand draw it.

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Other than Shuttle Discovery's entry, I like this one:

It has an early 60s feel about it, very well done as well.

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It has an early 60s feel about it, very well done as well.
Yes I like that design too.


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