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Topic: ISS Expedition 19 insignia
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 23493
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted September 22, 2008 05:46 PM
   
 In March 2009, Expedition 19 commander Gennady Padalka and flight engineer Michael Barratt will launch to the International Space Station. Nicole Stott will join them in August, arriving with the STS-128 shuttle crew to replace Tim Kopra. In May, cosmonaut Roman Romanenko will launch on Soyuz TMA-15 with European Space Agency astronaut Frank De Winne of Belgium and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Robert Thirsk. Their arrival will expand the station's crew size to six for the first time. Expedition 19 will include visits by two space shuttle missions that will equip the station with the additional facilities needed to support a six-person crew. The increment will also prepare the ISS for the later arrival of Russian research modules and additional docking ports. |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 406
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted September 22, 2008 05:58 PM
One of the most beautiful emblems of last times. I like it very much. Congratulations to the artist(s).  |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2300
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted September 22, 2008 06:39 PM
A fantastic design! Kudos to the artist(s) and the crew. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 658
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted September 23, 2008 08:36 AM
I think it is one of the worst designs ever! What a poor cheap design... It almost looks like it was done in 1 minute to design this...  |
ShuttleDiscovery
Member Posts: 152
From:
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted September 23, 2008 10:37 AM
I don't know what to make of it. It looks very childish! |
Mike Z
Member Posts: 384
From: Ellicott City, Maryland
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 23, 2008 10:41 AM
It's not a bad design but the ISS is lacking detail. And the clouds could be a little more real looking. |
Dave Clow
Member Posts: 138
From: South Pasadena, CA 91030
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted September 23, 2008 11:41 AM
Reminds me a little of the Kelly Freas Skylab art. |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2300
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted September 23, 2008 01:47 PM
Of course you're all entitled to your opinion but I think it was meant to look "childish" and whimiscal. Most crews motto is the simpler the better. Bottom line it's what the crew wanted. |
Space Emblem Art
Member Posts: 149
From: Citrus Heights, CA - USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted September 23, 2008 10:12 PM
It's not my favorite design but I don't want to bash it because after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. (Yeah, I know it's a cliche'). I wonder if the artist is Russian. If you've seen samples of Soviet/Russian space art, some of it is rather abstract compared to the more detailed space art we may be used to in the West. Anyway, we wouldn't be seeing it if the crew didn't like it. |
keith.wilson
Member Posts: 60
From: South Lanarkshire, Scotland
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted September 24, 2008 02:22 PM
Does anyone have any idea what the 10 stars represent? |
aerospace educator
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posted September 27, 2008 01:45 AM
My guess (and it is only a guess based upon conjecture) is that one of the 3-star clusters is for the Soyuz crew launched on Exp. 19 and the other 3-star cluster is for the crew landing in the Soyuz. The four individual stars represent the four Expedition 19 inflight members. |
robsouth
Member Posts: 551
From: West Midlands, UK
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 26, 2008 03:07 PM
Probably the worst space related patch I have ever seen. I think if this was my crew patch I'd let my back up go instead! |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2300
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted November 26, 2008 04:59 PM
Having a bad day Rob?The crew liked it. The artist (who has a great future) is now a part of space program history forever and you can't offer anything positive. A shame. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 536
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted November 27, 2008 10:05 AM
I am a bit amused by these threads (this one and 126). The usual pattern in this forum is: Person A posts a patch he designed, person B is saying: "Wow! What a great patch!" Person B is posting a design for another mission, and the next post will be from person A, saying: "Your grandchildren can be proud of you!" No one is ever offended by that. Is it a shame too that they can never offer anything negative? |
robsouth
Member Posts: 551
From: West Midlands, UK
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 27, 2008 11:50 AM
Erik, I like your comments. If something is good, in my opinion, I will say so. If I dislike it I will also say so. I just will not say something is good just to fall in line with everyone else. I still think this patch is atrocious, the lettering is tacky and some of the other elements are messy. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 536
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted November 27, 2008 03:02 PM
An observation: in this patch, the Earth, basic shape of the Sun, the ISS and the lettering all share a very distinguished style. Then, there are these perfectly rounded stars, all exactly the same size, the perfect circular shape of the patch itself, the perfectly arced script and the extremely clean, straight rays appearing from behind the Sun. I have noticed that this mixture of styles (usually it manifests itself in a slightly different way: with certain elements pictured extremely detailed as in a photograph, the other elements more stylized) is something seen pretty often in modern day patches. |
BMckay
Member Posts: 1576
From: MA, USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted January 29, 2009 08:48 AM
Check out this photo. Why is this different? |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 536
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted January 29, 2009 08:55 AM
This is not a patch, but directly embroidered onto the polos. Probably not such sophisticated equipment and thus less detail and colors possible? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 23493
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted January 29, 2009 08:59 AM
That is the "crew version" of the insignia. For their crew apparel, ISS and shuttle crews typically use a simplified version of their mission patch. |
dogcrew5369
Member Posts: 256
From: Statesville, NC
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted March 04, 2009 08:24 PM
Could anyone tell me why my Expedition 19 patch I purchased from Skyforce Space Patches is 5" in diameter when all other round ISS patches are the usual 4"? Why the shift to a larger size with this patch? Just curious. |
Bill Hunt
Member Posts: 365
From: Irvine, CA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted March 05, 2009 03:12 PM
Don't fret - that's the size it's supposed to be. I purchased mine directly from AB Emblem, and it's closer to 5 inches - about 4.5 I think. It could be that it needed to be a little larger so that all of the cloud detail could be more easily embroidered. But that's only a thought. Does anyone else know anything more definitive? |
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