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Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-22-2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS Expedition 19 insignia

In March 2009, Expedition 19 commander Gennady Padalka and flight engineer Michael Barratt will launch to the International Space Station. Nicole Stott will then join them in August, arriving with the STS-128 shuttle crew to replace Tim Kopra.

In May, cosmonaut Roman Romanenko will launch on Soyuz TMA-15 with European Space Agency astronaut Frank De Winne of Belgium and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Robert Thirsk. Their arrival will expand the station's crew size to six for the first time.

Expedition 19 will include visits by two space shuttle missions that will equip the station with the additional facilities needed to support a six-person crew. The increment will also prepare the ISS for the later arrival of Russian research modules and additional docking ports.

KAPTEC
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posted 09-22-2008 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the most beautiful emblems of last times. I like it very much. Congratulations to the artist(s).

KSCartist
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posted 09-22-2008 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A fantastic design! Kudos to the artist(s) and the crew.

Jacques van Oene
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posted 09-23-2008 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is one of the worst designs ever! What a poor cheap design... It almost looks like it was done in 1 minute to design this...

ShuttleDiscovery
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posted 09-23-2008 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what to make of it. It looks very childish!

Mike Z
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posted 09-23-2008 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a bad design but the ISS is lacking detail. And the clouds could be a little more real looking.

Dave Clow
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posted 09-23-2008 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Clow   Click Here to Email Dave Clow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminds me a little of the Kelly Freas Skylab art.

KSCartist
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posted 09-23-2008 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you're all entitled to your opinion but I think it was meant to look "childish" and whimiscal.

Most crews motto is the simpler the better.

Bottom line it's what the crew wanted.

Space Emblem Art
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posted 09-23-2008 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not my favorite design but I don't want to bash it because after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. (Yeah, I know it's a cliche'). I wonder if the artist is Russian. If you've seen samples of Soviet/Russian space art, some of it is rather abstract compared to the more detailed space art we may be used to in the West. Anyway, we wouldn't be seeing it if the crew didn't like it.

keith.wilson
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posted 09-24-2008 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keith.wilson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have any idea what the 10 stars represent?

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posted 09-27-2008 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess (and it is only a guess based upon conjecture) is that one of the 3-star clusters is for the Soyuz crew launched on Exp. 19 and the other 3-star cluster is for the crew landing in the Soyuz. The four individual stars represent the four Expedition 19 inflight members.

robsouth
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posted 11-26-2008 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably the worst space related patch I have ever seen. I think if this was my crew patch I'd let my back up go instead!

KSCartist
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posted 11-26-2008 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having a bad day Rob?

The crew liked it. The artist (who has a great future) is now a part of space program history forever and you can't offer anything positive. A shame.

hoorenz
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posted 11-27-2008 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a bit amused by these threads (this one and 126). The usual pattern in this forum is: Person A posts a patch he designed, person B is saying: "Wow! What a great patch!" Person B is posting a design for another mission, and the next post will be from person A, saying: "Your grandchildren can be proud of you!" No one is ever offended by that. Is it a shame too that they can never offer anything negative?

robsouth
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posted 11-27-2008 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Erik, I like your comments. If something is good, in my opinion, I will say so. If I dislike it I will also say so. I just will not say something is good just to fall in line with everyone else. I still think this patch is atrocious, the lettering is tacky and some of the other elements are messy.

hoorenz
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posted 11-27-2008 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An observation: in this patch, the Earth, basic shape of the Sun, the ISS and the lettering all share a very distinguished style.

Then, there are these perfectly rounded stars, all exactly the same size, the perfect circular shape of the patch itself, the perfectly arced script and the extremely clean, straight rays appearing from behind the Sun.

I have noticed that this mixture of styles (usually it manifests itself in a slightly different way: with certain elements pictured extremely detailed as in a photograph, the other elements more stylized) is something seen pretty often in modern day patches.

BMckay
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posted 01-29-2009 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out this photo. Why is this different?

hoorenz
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posted 01-29-2009 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not a patch, but directly embroidered onto the polos. Probably not such sophisticated equipment and thus less detail and colors possible?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-29-2009 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is the "crew version" of the insignia. For their crew apparel, ISS and shuttle crews typically use a simplified version of their mission patch.

dogcrew5369
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posted 03-04-2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could anyone tell me why my Expedition 19 patch I purchased from Skyforce Space Patches is 5" in diameter when all other round ISS patches are the usual 4"? Why the shift to a larger size with this patch? Just curious.

Bill Hunt
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posted 03-05-2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't fret - that's the size it's supposed to be. I purchased mine directly from AB Emblem, and it's closer to 5 inches - about 4.5 I think. It could be that it needed to be a little larger so that all of the cloud detail could be more easily embroidered. But that's only a thought. Does anyone else know anything more definitive?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-23-2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I learned today that the artist behind the ISS Expedition 19 insignia was Olivia Huynh. She worked with astronaut Michael Barratt.

In 2008, when the patch was designed, Olivia was a senior in high school. Since then, she attended the Maryland Institute College of Art (MICA), where she graduated Summa Cum Laude. Her senior project, "Borrowed Light," was featured by Adobe on Facebook and at the Animation Block Party in New York.

hoorenz
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posted 10-23-2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, finally! I remember we both heard the name at the time, but were unable to confirm it.

KSCartist
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posted 10-23-2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remeber the name Olivia Huynh. We're going to see a lot of great things from this young lady.

Beautiful film.

KAPTEC
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posted 10-25-2013 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree totally with you Tim. She's great!

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