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Moonbase_Alphan
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posted December 05, 2007 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase_Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the crew patch for the next Hubble mission, STS-125:

I like it. Simple and elegant - with a departing shuttle indicating the final servicing mission.

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NavySpaceFan
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posted December 05, 2007 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks great!!! I like how the objects in Hubble's field of view go from the planets out to clusters of galaxies.

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KSCartist
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posted December 05, 2007 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not bad but I like Daniel's better. I guess I was just expecting something special for the last HST servicing mission.

Tim

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robsouth
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posted December 05, 2007 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a good design.

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pargoo
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posted December 05, 2007 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't say it drives me into raptures. A 6 out of 10...maybe 7, tops.

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buckeyecal
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posted December 05, 2007 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buckeyecal   Click Here to Email buckeyecal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
It's not bad but I like Daniel's better.
Thanks Tim...

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butch wilks
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posted December 06, 2007 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just one more bland mission patch, only 4 or 5 colors. Come on NASA or AB, you can do better than this of a mission patch. Has no one but us on here have ideas for good looking patches today or is that the new embroider machines cannot do the more elaborate patches and the old ones can?

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robsouth
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posted December 06, 2007 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some patches have a dozen things going on in them, loads of colours and they just look a bit too much.

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KSCartist
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posted December 06, 2007 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Butch I understand your frustration but you should direct your complaint to the crew.

While AB may provide guidance about what will be a clean embroidered design and NASA HQ has to approve the design, it's the flight crew that comes up with the design.

Either by working with an artist or a family member (see: STS-51A, STS-26, STS-29 and STS-122 to name a few designed by relatives), the crew will suggest design elements and decide what they want.

I guess this one comes under the "you can't please everyone."

Tim

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NavySpaceFan
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posted December 06, 2007 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were to add one element to the design, I'd have the orbiter, since this is Atlantis' last flight, flying into an orbital sunset.

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Robert Pearlman
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posted December 06, 2007 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NavySpaceFan:
...since this is Atlantis' last flight
As of today, it is Atlantis' last flight however NASA has said they are looking at options of flying OV-104 through 2010.

Thus, you wouldn't want to prematurely note Atlantis' retirement by including it on a patch now.

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GoesTo11
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posted December 06, 2007 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've decided that I like it. I was really looking forward to seeing this patch (so much so that I started a topic here for it) and when I saw the official design, I was underwhelmed. But it's grown on me already... I especially like how it emphasizes the "view" through Hubble (and the knowledge we gain from it) rather than the telescope itself or the orbiter. It seems to me there's been a recent trend toward simpler, more elegant designs for both Shuttle and ISS patches... I much prefer these to the riots of color, elements, and surnames that we were seeing prior to STS-107.

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robsouth
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posted December 06, 2007 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good observation.

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Jay Chladek
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posted December 07, 2007 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, the angle of the orbiter already does imply it is the last service mission as it is heading out and leaving Hubble to do its job. A sunset to me would overstate the obvious. I agree the patch design is growing on me due to its simplicity.

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johntosullivan
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posted December 11, 2007 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see the items in Hubble's field of view are planets, then stars, then galaxies. What's the furthest oval shaped item?

John

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KSCartist
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posted December 11, 2007 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John-

Maybe it's the Jupiter 2 spacecraft from "Lost In Space."

Tim

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Jay Chladek
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posted December 11, 2007 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like another galaxy to me. Not all galaxies have the spiral shape to them as some of the real distant ones do tend to have a more cigar shape when viewed from our corner of the universe. Now they could be spiral shaped as well, but we can't tell from our viewing perspective.

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johntosullivan
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posted December 12, 2007 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jay,

I'm aware of the Hubble Galaxy Classification and the two galaxies look like Barred Spirals of type SBa. (maybe Sa)

I was just thinking that in a stylised graphic a galaxy would look like a galaxy i.e. the two spirals here.

I was just wondering did the oval represent the centre of the galaxy or a black hole or some other cosmological phenomenon.

I suppose the official description will pop up on luc's site soon.

John

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posted January 06, 2008 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Link to hi-res version on NASA's website:
quote:
This STS-125 crew patch shows HST along with a representation of its many scientific discoveries. The overall structure and composition of the Universe is shown in blue and filled with planets, stars, and galaxies. The black background is indicative of the mysteries of dark-energy and dark-matter. The new instruments to be installed on HST during this mission, Wide Field Camera-3 and the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph, will make observations to help understand these unseen components which seem to dominate the structure of the Universe. The red border of the patch represents the red-shifted glow of the early Universe, and the limit of the Hubble's view into the cosmos.
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Maciej,
Astronauts, Cosmonauts & their flights

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Robert Pearlman
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posted May 10, 2008 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The embroidered patch has been spotted...


(Cropped from JSC2008-E-035363)

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Robert Pearlman
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posted July 05, 2008 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the Servicing Mission 4 insignia in both decal and embroidered patch form:

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Bill Hunt
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posted July 05, 2008 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Robert. The obvious question is, who makes the patch and will it be available to collectors?

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KSCartist
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posted July 05, 2008 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting how they flipped the view of the shuttle launch from the decal to the patch.

Tim

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Robert Pearlman
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posted July 05, 2008 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bill Hunt:
The obvious question is, who makes the patch and will it be available to collectors?
The decal and patch were among the press materials distributed during the recent STS-125 briefings. I debated posting them, as I generally try to have a source for an item before it's displayed, but given that they were the only versions of the payload insignia I have seen thus far, and as Tim pointed out, the two designs differ between the decal and patch, I felt they would be worthwhile sharing, if only for the reference.

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andrewcli
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posted July 11, 2008 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI, I saw this today - STS-125 Embroidered Mission Patch

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Mike Z
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posted July 11, 2008 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you look at the STS-125 patch that Robert posted on May 10, the HST is much different than the patch shown on Spaceflight Now and on Ebay. The color and outline stitching around the telescope are completly different. Could the patches on the Astronauts be prototypes? They do not look as well done. Which one is from AB Emblem?

Mike Z

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Ben
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posted July 12, 2008 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can confirm the SFN patch comes from AB.

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Bill Hunt
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posted July 16, 2008 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I can confirm that the patch does actually look better in person than it does in the picture on Spaceflight Now. The embroidery has a surprisingly nice luster that's been missing from other recent shuttle patches. It's actually a lovely design, I think.

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Robert Pearlman
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posted July 16, 2008 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With credit to Francis French, the artist behind the STS-125 patch is now known.

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Harald Kraenzel
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posted July 22, 2008 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mike Z:
...Could the patches on the Astronauts be prototypes? They do not look as well done. Which one is from AB Emblem?
I asked AB and they answered as follows:
"We went through about a dozen versions on STS-125 before the astronauts were finally satisfied, and they have samples of all the versions so it is very possible they will have different versions on their uniforms pre-approval."
Further on I was told that the patch shown on Spaceflight Now is the one AB Emblem is making now since they have approval.

Harald

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posted July 25, 2008 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Space Store now have the STS-125 patch. However, no picture of the actual patch is available as of yet.

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posted July 25, 2008 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are interested in a prototype patch, there is one now on eBay.

Here's another one on eBay.

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andrewcli
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posted July 28, 2008 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a side by side comparison between the "official" STS-125 patch from spaceflightnow.com (left) and the pre-approved patch (right) seen on the astronauts blue jumpsuits. You be the judge.

Andrew

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Harald Kraenzel
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posted July 30, 2008 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andrewcli:
Here's another one on eBay.
I asked the seller and he told me that he bought it at the NASA visitor center.

Best wishes,
Harald

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Robert Pearlman
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posted July 30, 2008 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Harald Kraenzel:
I asked the seller and he told me that he bought it at the NASA visitor center.
As I also noted in the STS-119 thread, I now believe the pictured STS-125 patch was created by Tom Foley with Cape Kennedy Mint (or at least, distributed by him). What is less clear is if the crew is wearing Foley's patch (if indeed it is his patch) or the AB prototypes. My guess is the latter, but I could be wrong.

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andrewcli
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posted July 30, 2008 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the patch seen on eBay is very similar to the patch seen on the blue jumpsuit. Question, because AB emblems are authorized by NASA, can astronauts wear their mission emblems made by another manufacturer? Unlike the Gemini and Apollo patches, I thought all of the shuttle patches are from AB?

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Mike Z
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posted August 08, 2008 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone been able to get the STS-125 patch the crew has been wearing or found out who has it? I have been trying everywhere.

Have a great weekend!!

Mike Z

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posted August 08, 2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike Z-

Spaceflight Now has it for sale in their online store. Not sure if they're shipping right away or just taking orders, but that's the only place I've seen it as yet.

Kevin

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Robert Pearlman
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posted August 08, 2008 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Spaceflight Now has it for sale in their online store.
Kevin, as mentioned up thread, Spaceflight Now has the AB Emblem patch (as does The Space Store) but that it is not the insignia the crew was wearing during training. The closest to the design they were wearing seems to be a patch created by Cape Kennedy Mint, but it may be that the astronauts were wearing AB Emblem prototypes.

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posted August 08, 2008 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah. Guess I should have read more carefully. Although, isn't AB the only licensed manufacturer now? That would seem to indicate the crew were wearing an early version or prototype made by AB and probably not available to the public. Just a guess...You folks are the experts.

Kevin

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