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leslie
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posted 10-23-2007 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leslie   Click Here to Email leslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have recently acquired an Apollo 11 "Bird Watchers" patch. My understanding is these were produced in limited numbers for distribution to NASA workers and contractors.

I would be grateful for more information if anyone can help.

butch wilks
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posted 10-23-2007 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The patch you have may be part of a five-patch set, 4x3" patches and one 3.5" patch that was made by Lion Brothers for the individuals involved in various aspects of the support of the mission, and made for NASA just after Apollo 11. They are not the best that Lion Bros. made but they had very little time to make them.

Go and have a look at this web page to see all the patches in the set but look out, as there are a lot of fakes on the web and eBay.

leslie
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posted 10-24-2007 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leslie   Click Here to Email leslie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the quality of the item is not that good but it's an interesting piece.

Besixdouze
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posted 03-31-2014 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of recent eBay sales have raised questions in my mind regarding the history of this patch set hence my reason in resurrecting this thread. In the light of these sales, can anyone supply me with proof positive that these patches/patch set were produced by Lion Brothers for NASA?

spaced out
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posted 04-02-2014 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If nothing else, I think the pattern of anchor threads on the back mark them as Lion Brothers products.

Although seeing patches from old collections being sold together can sometimes hint that they were acquired from the same source and possibly direct from the same manufacturer this isn't always the case.

Sometimes people would pick up individual patches for some missions from different places, sometimes they'd add a set of patches from one manufacturer to an existing collection from another.

Besixdouze
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posted 04-03-2014 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the details of the eBay sales I mentioned.
  • 291104923141 - a Bird Watcher patch mounted to a card stating "You have just become an Honorary Member of the Apollo 11 Launch "Bird Watchers", through your purchase of the Apollo 11 Commemorative Emblem. These emblems are available ONLY to actual viewers at Kennedy Space Center Area Launch Viewing Sites and are not available for sale anywhere else, thus making them a truly unique souvenir."

  • 261206481833 - the Bird Watcher Eyewitness Certificate. The accompanying letter from Vega Space Commemoratives mentions a 'brochure being prepared showing some of the other emblems and commemorative items in our line'. One could surmise these other emblems may have contained the Mission Support, Launch Team and Recovery Fleet patches together with the 31⁄2" patch and that these were specially commissioned for Vega Space Commemoratives from Lion Brothers.
Bit of a long shot I know but does any member fortunate enough to have been at the launch of Apollo 11 remember any of this and maybe have a copy of this brochure or any more information on Vega Space Commemoratives or its President William M. Ellsworth?

Kenny
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posted 04-09-2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenny   Click Here to Email Kenny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these patches being reproduced? I was not aware of this.

Go4Launch
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posted 04-13-2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out eBay item 261206481833. Vega would also sell patches to "TV Birdwatchers." I believe I bought mine from an ad in Today on July 16.

rgarner
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posted 07-07-2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really not a patch expert guys - anyone know what I have here? All I know is that these are old. No idea of value or anything else. It is 3".

Editor's note: Threads merged.

rgarner
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posted 07-10-2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know the value of these?

Besixdouze
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posted 07-11-2014 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd be lucky to get more than about $5.00.

rgarner
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posted 07-12-2014 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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