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Topic: Soyuz TMA-9: Spaceflight participant Anousheh Ansari's personal mission patch
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Omid
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posted 09-21-2006 01:54 PM
   
I was curious as to what gives NASA the authority to ask a person who has paid $20 million for their space flight to the International Space Station on a Russian rocket to remove their country of origin's flag from their own uniform. Assuming her removal of only the green band from the flag patch is true and not just graphics editing, I thought this was clever on Anousheh Ansari's part, since most Iranians would agree with that move regardless. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-21-2006 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Omid:
I was curious as to what gives NASA the authority to ask a person who has paid $20 million for their space flight to the International Space Station on a Russian rocket to remove their country of origin's flag from their own uniform.
Again, the removal of the flag was made on the demand of both Roscosmos and NASA, according to Anousheh Ansari's husband and brother-in-law (see up-thread for exact quote). Reportedly, the Russian space program was more concerned about the Iranian symbols than was their U.S. counterparts, but that -- at the moment -- is just hearsay.As to what gives NASA the general right to comment on SFP activities: an international agreement governing the rules set for flying space flight participants. Part of that document, agreed to as a result of the launch of Dennis Tito, provided all ISS partners a say in activities that might cast dispersion or embarrassment on the nation. Depending on your particular point of view, celebrating Iran at the same time as advocating sanctions could be seen as contradictory and be perceived by some as a weakening of position (I should make it clear, that I am not expressing my own personal opinion, as political comments are not appropriate for this message board). |
Prospero
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posted 09-25-2006 08:01 AM
It all seems incredibly silly to me. I don't know an awful lot about Ms Ansari, but I somehow doubt that she's a supporter of the current Iranian government. If she wants to celebrate the country she was born and brought up in, as well as the one she now lives in, I can't see any rational objection. She paid enough for her ticket.Just about any flag is bound to offend someone, somewhere, that's no reason not to use them on mission patches. How many international space missions in the 70s, 80s and early 90s, starting with Apollo-Soyuz and ending with Helen Sharman's flight, had mission patches incorporating the Hammer and Sickle? Now there's a flag with sinister connotations, but I don't remember anyone kicking up a fuss.
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posted 09-27-2006 09:00 AM
Has anyone found the description of the Ansari patch? Most of it is obvious, but I do not recognize the figure standing atop the ISS. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-27-2006 04:56 PM
It appears the Iranian flag (or at least its colors) made it to the ISS with Mrs. Ansari. |
KSCartist
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posted 09-28-2006 07:16 AM
Oops they forgot to have her change her coveralls. Good for you Anousheh!Tim |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-11-2006 06:36 PM
The X Prize Store is offering for sale Anousheh Ansari's 4" patch, 1.25 inch "special edition" lapel pin and trading card. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-13-2006 01:56 PM
As it turns out, it was Russia, not the United States, that forced the issue of the Iranian flag. From the Dallas Morning News: Mrs. Ansari said politics and policy challenged her optimism while she trained for her adventure. Russian officials asked her to remove a patch on her launch space suit with the Iranian flag."I think they were afraid of negative publicity," Mrs. Ansari said. "I told them there will not be any negative publicity unless you make me take off my patch." She protested and wrote a letter asking NASA to intervene. The American space agency declined, and rather than jeopardize her lifelong dream, Mrs. Ansari said she dropped the issue. She blasted into space with one country's patch -- the U.S. flag -- on her left shoulder. |
RMH
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posted 10-14-2006 08:21 AM
I noticed Ansari's personal patch is shaped identical to the STS-100 mission patch. Is there an artist connection (or any connection) between these two designs? |
benguttery
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posted 10-24-2006 08:44 AM
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So there you have it: go to New Mexico, meet Ansari and get her autographed personal patch...
A co-worker brought me back the personal patch from New Mexico. I had asked him to do so if it wasn't too much trouble. It is slightly different from the one she flew. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-23-2009 03:16 PM
The X Prize Foundation's "The Launch Pad" blog is offering free patches from Anousheh Ansari's ISS mission: Want an awesome patch, just like the one that Anousheh Ansari wore on her trip to the International Space Station? We've got a whole bunch of them and we're giving them away to you!It's simple, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to this address: Ansari Patch
C/O X PRIZE Foundation
5510 Lincoln Blvd.
Suite 100
Los Angeles, CA 90094 Note the following: - No postage = no patch. Make sure your envelopes have the correct postage amount
- Sorry, USA only. Unless you want to handle all the customs forms required by the United States Postal Service. I will not send any without the proper forms.
- The patch is just slightly taller than a standard American letter-size envelope. I can stuff it in there, but if you've got a slightly larger envelope that's better.
- Offer ends February 15, 2009, or whenever the patches run out, whichever comes first. Watch the comments on this post, as I will tell you when I've run out.
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Jacques van Oene
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posted 01-23-2009 05:11 PM
Ok is there someone in the USA who is willing to go to the trouble and get me one patch... of course I pay for the costs. Thanks,------------------
Jacques 
www.spacepatches.nl |
KAPTEC
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posted 01-23-2009 07:14 PM
Jacques I live in Spain but part of my family lives in Miami. If you like it I would ask for one to be sent to Florida. When I get it finally in Madrid, I will send it again, then to the Netherlands... It's all that I could do but I will do it with pleasure.Jorge. |
Lou Chinal
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posted 01-23-2009 07:22 PM
O.K. Jacques, email me off line with your address. I'll let you know when I get it.-Lou |
NavySpaceFan
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posted 02-06-2009 04:29 PM
Just received mine today, it's the original version (with the green, white and red flag). Looks great!!! |
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