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David C
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posted 03-29-2013 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bandai is re-releasing its 1:144 Otona no Chogokin Apollo 11 and Saturn V model as Apollo 13 and Saturn V for August.

This time there is a splashdown display complete with ocean base, SH-3, diver etc.

I'll be getting a second one.

cspg
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posted 03-29-2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious to what impact, if any, there will be on the first batch of the Saturn V. Any thoughts?

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posted 03-29-2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome news! This time I am not going to miss the boat and have to purchase the set at a premium later.

By 2015 or 2016 I have a feeling that Bandai will produce an Apollo J Mission Saturn V Launch Vehicle set that includes a LRV.

quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
I'm curious to what impact, if any, there will be on the first batch of the Saturn V. Any thoughts?
Since this is a different product I do not really think it will alter the value of the Apollo 11 set very much at all.

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posted 03-29-2013 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure great news, I hope they release also the shuttle again.

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posted 03-29-2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The funny thing is I know someone who does marketing for a competitor of Bandai's in that market and he told me less than a couple of weeks ago that he fully expected them to release this model again due to the high cost of tooling. I didn't believe him at the time but as he pointed out, they weren't making money on these models (and the industry apparently refers to this specific model as a benchmark on profit margins).

Any idea of a retail value? I'm not nearly the space collector that many of you are, but I am tempted to nab one of these if it's affordable (that being a relative term, though).

quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
I'm curious to what impact, if any, there will be on the first batch of the Saturn V. Any thoughts?
I fully believe that this will kill the extreme high end values in the short term. I don't think anyone expected a re-release which accounts for them being sold now for well into 4-figures.

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posted 03-29-2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by p51:
Any idea of a retail value?
Bandai's MSRP is 54,600 yen ($580).

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-29-2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is similar to the Apollo 11 CM by Code 3 a while back. Once they were out of production that $130 model was selling for $600-750. When it was rereleased it is now obtainable for $135.

At $580 maybe this time I will grab one. Then once displayed I will have about 15 differently scaled/manufactured Saturn Vs displayed in the house.

alexbaja
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posted 03-29-2013 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in for one too, I hope they manage to arrange the error they had in the SM.

I know it's a far shot but it would have been also nice if they added the LEDs like they did with the shuttle.

cspg
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posted 03-29-2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
When it was rereleased it is now obtainable for $135.
New (unopened) or "used" (displayed)?

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-29-2013 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen them on eBay marked new.

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posted 03-29-2013 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
Then once displayed I will have about 15 differently scaled/manufactured Saturn Vs displayed in the house.
And I thought I was bad.

One question that immediately comes to my mind is, does this model include two service modules, one "damaged" and the other not?

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posted 03-29-2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
One question that immediately comes to my mind is, does this model include two service modules, one "damaged" and the other not?
Yes, here is a page that displays the full product.

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posted 03-29-2013 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexbaja:
I hope they manage to arrange the error they had in the SM. I know it's a far shot but it would have been also nice if they added the LEDs like they did with the shuttle.

Judging from the Tamashii link, it seems the answer is "neither", which is a bit of a shame (but not altogether surprising since the retooling would have cost more than it's worth for Bandai). Although I already have the Apollo 11 version, it's good to see this model back in production. Despite the flawed SM, it's a really nice model overall and I think people will enjoy having it.

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posted 03-29-2013 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<sigh>

Time to somehow find yet more display space...

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posted 03-30-2013 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many who already have the Apollo 11 model will buy the Apollo 13 one?

Because at $580, that's quite an investment for a helicopter, an ocean base, a couple of divers and a damaged SM.

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posted 03-30-2013 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure Chris, why not, one upright and the other horizontal.

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posted 03-30-2013 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's exactly my thought process/rationalization.

cspg
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posted 03-30-2013 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexbaja:
Sure Chris, why not, one upright and the other horizontal.
Now, why didn't I think of that!?!
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
That's exactly my thought process/rationalization.
Your thought process should focus on finding more room for all your stuff.

Norman.King
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posted 03-30-2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darn, I really wish they weren't releasing that, but I can't have it both ways as I benefited from the re-release of the Code 3 models so I'm pleased for everyone who didn't get one first time around. It is a superb model and if you can afford it I wholeheartedly recommend you buy one.

When I pre-ordered Apollo 11 from Hobby Link Japan it was at a discounted price of about 35,000 yen. I wonder if they'll discount this one knowing how quickly Apollo 11 sold out or is it RRP only this time?

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posted 03-30-2013 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
Your thought process should focus on finding more room for all your stuff.
You're all welcome. (Mildly NSFW language)

David C
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posted 04-02-2013 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please can somone remind me if I'm correct in thinking that the LM's landing gear legs were never extended during Apollo 13?

cspg
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posted 04-02-2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See: When were the Apollo LM legs extended?

David C
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posted 04-02-2013 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that, pretty obvious in retrospect.

Norman.King
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posted 04-03-2013 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Apollo Maniacs the Apollo 13 and Saturn V Launch Vehicle will be released in June AND Apollo 11 re-released in August.

Can anyone confirm if this is correct? That will kill the second hand value of both models.

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posted 04-03-2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hobby Link Japan has the same info, although they don't accept orders for the Apollo 11 (but they do for the Apollo 13 one) set because of a supply issue.

Amiami offers pre-orders for both with the same dates.

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posted 04-03-2013 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose the irony might be that Apollo 13 becomes the more valuable of the two as there will be double the amount of Apollo 11 kits out there.

Does anyone have a number on the production run this time? I seem to recall that it was around 20,000 before.

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posted 04-03-2013 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
20,000 seems a lot, don't you think? (compared to limited editions of airplanes models, usually in the 2,000 range).

I'd be curious to know why Bandai has waited so long to reissue this model. By the way are there significant differences in the Apollo 11 and 13 rockets (markings)?

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posted 04-03-2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
20,000 seems a lot, don't you think?
That figure was quoted by someone in the Bandai Apollo 11 thread on this forum (seventh post on Page 5).

I also read somewhere that the Bandai Hayabusa Probe had a production run of 6,000, which seems more reasonable to me.

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posted 04-03-2013 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AmiAmi are now showing both kits available for pre-order with a very useful 26% off RRP, maximum of two per customer. For those who missed it first time around I guess it's time to decide what one you want.

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posted 04-04-2013 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered mine yesterday from Ami Ami.

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Tempting as the discount they offer is twice the one offered by HobbyLink. But I haven't had any experience with AmiAmi. Any feedback?

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posted 04-04-2013 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexbaja:
I ordered mine yesterday from Ami Ami.
Me too

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quote:
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But I haven't had any experience with AmiAmi.
Chris this will be the fourth Bandai I am purchasing from Ami Ami and their service was excellent.

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posted 04-04-2013 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed the Apollo 11 so I ordered one of the reissues. I ordered from AmiAmi also.

Hopefully they issue the shuttle again, Discovery this time, please.

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quote:
Originally posted by alexbaja:
Chris this will be the fourth Bandai I am purchasing from Ami Ami and their service was excellent.
Okay, thanks. HobbyLink's service was great too but if I can save a few bucks.

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posted 04-04-2013 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cycleroadie:
Hopefully they issue the shuttle again, Discovery this time, please.
Columbia with a white ET, please.

And if they've restarted production of the Saturn V, the shuttle might follow.

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posted 04-04-2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
Columbia with a white ET, please.
Seconded.

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posted 04-04-2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for press4meco   Click Here to Email press4meco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too just placed my pre-order for one of these the other night. The intent is to display this one horizontally in the different segments.

My question is concerning a display case for this model in that configuration: Can anyone who has already done this chime in as to where or how they went about finding an appropriately sized case for this model?

Also, thirded on a re-release of the shuttle. A white ET version would look extremely nice!

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quote:
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Can anyone who has already done this chime in as to where or how they went about finding an appropriately sized case for this model?
I had a gentleman who works at a plastic supply company build me a custom case out of acrylic. It only cost me about $75. I am sure that if you do some research locally, you can probably find someone to build the display case for you. I based the measurements off of the Rubbermaid shelf that I purchased at Home Depot.

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I have just done my pre-order for the Otona No Chogokin Apollo 13 and Satturn V Rocket. Does any one know how much postage costs would be to the UK from Ami Ami?


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