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posted 07-31-2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot figure out why Bandai included 3 Service Modules.

Mine should arrive next week!

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posted 08-01-2013 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess one is for display on Saturn V itself and the other two are for you to chose either before or after the accident or maybe even so they might have done the correction in dimension form the previous run of the Apollo 11 CM.

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posted 08-02-2013 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this Apollo 13 set include a "Bonus" like the original Apollo 11 set did?

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posted 08-02-2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With three command modules (one in recovery mode) and three service modules (one depicting the damage done to the module) I guess at least a set of these are a bonus item.

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posted 08-02-2013 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally saw one yesterday, in the hands of the owner of a local hobby shop. I was very impressed, but I still wouldn't have a place to display it. Still, it's a neat looking model...
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Originally posted by the clocks running:I cannot figure out why Bandai included 3 Service Modules.
You're complaining about an extra one?

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posted 08-03-2013 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please place some photos of this new beauty on the site. I am really curious what the artwork looks like for the new packaging. Thanks

As far as my comment about the 3 service modules. Why do we really need two of the same? Now, if you really want to display the stacked Saturn V and another display of the Apollo Spacecraft towing the LM? Fine. It was just cool when Bandai included bonus products like the post re-rentry CM with the Apollo 11 Saturn V and the Astrovan with the Space Shuttle Endeavour.

Hey, honestly I am happy with anything extra that Bandai includes with these awesome products. I am especially happy that Bandai is even releasing beautiful NASA space program related products at all.

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posted 08-04-2013 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We finally have our Bandai Apollo 13 Saturn V displayed. We have it with the ASF lucite and the Winco medallion. Great details in the engine mounts which get covered up in a vertical display. As with the Apollo 11 it came with supports for a horizontal display.

The splashdown/recovery diorama is very cool and is done well for the scale. I like the damage SM display and is good detail for the scale.

The only downside is the that the CSM/LES stack appears to be too long. The LES does not fully cover the CM, but I think the CM could be removed and the LES attached directly to the SM and then use the CM with the spare SM. That would help but the overall SM looks to be too long in of itself.

All in all a good purchase at the retail price (shipping was high at $107 but it did arrive in three days). I would not buy it for the after market price the Apollo 11 went for ($1000 plus).

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posted 08-04-2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for posting photos of your outstanding display!

Great job cutting the glass in the display cases to accommodate the Saturn V stacks.

You are correct that the scale is off for the Service Module. I assume that the LM Adapter up is all incorrect?

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posted 08-07-2013 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my model from Japan yesterday and really love it!

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posted 08-07-2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had a chance to look at mine a little more closely now. To me, something that stands out from the previous release is that the S-II/ S-IVB interstage fairing is a much brighter white than the rest of the booster. At first it was pretty distracting, but I'm getting over it now. Have any skilled modellers out there considered "correcting" one of the SMs?

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posted 08-07-2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the clocks running:
Great job cutting the glass in the display cases to accommodate the Saturn V
Thanks, but I am not that skilled. It is actually an acrylic sheet about 1/4" thick, I cut the semicircle using a hole saw, not the best method but it looks okay.

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posted 08-11-2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have a contact info to Bandai replacement part? The LM is missing on mine and wish to get it replaced.

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posted 08-12-2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contact Bluefin Distribution in California for parts. Hopefully they can get them from Bandai.

Bluefin Distribution
2967 Michelson Dr. #G113
Irvine, CA 92612-8801
Phone: 949-553-8800

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posted 08-12-2013 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, hopefully they will be able to help. I just need this top half of the lunar module.

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posted 08-13-2013 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need the ascent stage of the LM. Good luck!

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posted 08-13-2013 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SuperKungFu:
Thanks, hopefully they will be able to help. I just need this top half of the lunar module.

Could you specify what is broken with the (top?) section of the Lunar Module? Mine looks just like yours.

The notable differences I can see is coloring which differs on three points: below the entry/exit "door" there's a horizontal bar that is white on your photo, it's black on mine and just right of this section there's a triangle below the thruster which is painted white on yours but is black on mine. Also on both sides of the arrow, yours show white markings (right of the antenna on the left side) while mine are black. The two orange markings on your model are more vivid than on mine.

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posted 08-13-2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, no, that's just a stock photo. Mine is just missing in general.

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posted 08-13-2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They forgot to include it? So, there's a "hole" in the packaging? That's odd.

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posted 08-13-2013 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would contact the merchant that you purchased the model from first. Getting in touch with Bandai Tamashii Nations in Japan is very difficult.

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posted 08-14-2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea it's just a hole. I thought it was somewhere in the box but nothing. So I guess they forgot to include it. Which makes things difficult because I got this as a present from my friend. I can't exactly ask for his copy of his invoice, that has his info on it.

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posted 08-15-2013 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity, has anyone compared the Apollo 11 version of the Saturn V to the Apollo 13 version?

Are the Saturn Vs identical?

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Are the Saturn Vs identical?
I haven't done a detailed "panel by panel" comparison but they're certainly not identical as each has it's correct serial number on the S-IC stage. You need to look pretty closely to see the difference between a six and an eight. My Apollo 13 release is not quite as good as my Apollo 11 as the S-II/ S-IVB interstage is a slightly whiter non-matching shade than the rest of the booster.

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posted 08-19-2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks David!

My Apollo 13 set looks fine. All the stages and interstages color match. I wonder if some of the sets were combined after separate paint runs?

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The LM is missing on mine and wish to get it replaced.
If anyone is willing to sell the ascent stage of the Lunar Module, please let me know. I tried to contact Bandai directly but couldn't get any response. I hope someone who displays their Saturn V upright that has no need for the LM could sell me theirs.

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As an alternative, could you box up the model you received and return it to the dealer you bought it from for a replacement? A missing part should be a valid reason for return...

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Sending the entire model back to Japan is an option but will prove to be very expensive due to the international shipping charges. The dealer that I purchased from stated to contact them immediately if I had any issues with my Bandai Apollo 11 and Apollo 13 models. Hopefully the dealer can just open another package and send the missing items.

Everyone should hang on to these models because I have a strong feeling that this is the last run that will be produced.

All the best!

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posted 09-01-2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, sending back the entire Saturn V the shipping cost will be on me. Which would cost maybe around 50-80 dollars by itself. So that's not going to happen.

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posted 09-02-2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree with Clock, to split-up and sell any part of these Bandai models would be a major mistake (not what you want to hear I know).

I don't display any of the payload bay stuff supplied with my Bandai Shuttle, but I keep it all safely stored in the original box and there's no way I'd sell them.

However, if you do find someone who is prepared to split-up their model I suspect the $80 return shipping fee might be cheap compared to what they'd want for your missing part.

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Thanks Norman for agreeing!

I missed the boat on the original issue of Bandai's Apollo 11 Saturn V and regretted the very expensive process of attaining one.

Please, if you think that you want the Apollo 13 or Apollo 11 model then buy it now! If you wait you will pay an incredible premium later.

All the best!

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Originally posted by the clocks running:
Everyone should hang on to these models because I have a strong feeling that this is the last run that will be produced.

Why? I can see a Skylab version.

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posted 09-02-2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why? I can see a Skylab version.

I can't.

A reissue of the Space Shuttle (this time as Discovery) is possible but I don't see another Saturn V release.

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Yeah, I have to agree with Norman. In terms of marketplace demand, Skylab barely exists.

I could see a Shuttle re-release as Atlantis or Discovery with new payload accessories...maybe Hubble?

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I find it very unlikely that a Skylab version will be produced. Apollo 11 and Apollo 13 were benchmark Apollo missions for different reasons.

I'm with Norman, a reissue of Endeavour will probably happen or possibly Atlantis, etc.

This will not happen but an Apollo 15 Saturn V would be cool with an LRV and a CSM SIM Bay (at 1/144 scale the LRV is way too small though!).

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posted 09-03-2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These models are expensive and I wonder if after three Saturn V production runs (2 x Apollo 11, 1 x Apollo 13) Bandai might have satisfied market demand at this price point?

It will be interesting to see how quickly they sell out. If memory serves the Bandai Hyabusa Probe didn't sell well (I picked one up very cheaply) showing (to me) that market demand for this type of expensive space model is quite limited outside of diehard fans like us.

Does anyone know what the production run numbers were/is for the Bandai Apollo Saturns?

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I find it very unlikely that a Skylab version will be produced. Apollo 11 and Apollo 13 were benchmark Apollo missions for different reasons.
Based on the differences between the Saturn V for Apollo 11 and 13, there are none. The Apollo 13 model simply adds a damaged CSM and a helicopter.

On the other hand, and if you extrapolate from aircraft collectors and manufacturers, the Skylab Saturn V looks very different. And we could have a Skylab model and the Saturn V. And the first and second stages of a Skylab/Saturn V model have already been produced. Just my opinion but there's a more compelling reason for a Saturn V/Skylab than for another shuttle model.

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Please a Saturn IB and Skylab version. They can make option sets.

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The Apollo 11 and Apollo 13 models are very similar except for the lunar scene versus the ocean recovery. The S-IVB stage would have to be substituted for the Skylab Orbital Laboratory. Also, I assume Bandai would create a Skylab that deploys. I just do not see this happening. I am sorry to be pessimistic but I have a feeling we just saw the last run of these models.

Most of the people who are the purchasers of this type of high-end exotic die-cast model purchased the set three years ago or will take the leap now. I think that Bandai knows this and will not continue reissuing these premium models. Buy now before you have to pay way to much later friends!!!

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I think it's too early to be predicting what Bandai will or won't do next.

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Most of the people who are the purchasers of this type of high-end exotic die-cast model purchased the set three years ago or will take the leap now.
It seems that we had this discussion when the Apollo 11 came out, no? Maybe Bandai saw how far the price of the Apollo 11 model went on eBay, and that enticed them to produce more.

But I don't see more shuttle models coming out — so we don't really disagree!

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We agree Chris (cspg)! I am with you in our pursuit of way cool space models.

I was not a member yet of the site in 2010 when the original Bandai Apollo Saturn V was first issued. I would have to review the posts from back from 2010.

Only time will tell but a shuttle reissue may be possible but the bonus Astrovan will probably be eliminated.

I agree that the popularity of the Apollo 11 Saturn V was far greater than the space shuttle.

As I said before, at least Bandai stepped up to the plate and produced some very cool NASA models.


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