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Philip
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posted 12-02-2012 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any suggestions for a 1/48 scale Orion capsule?

apolloprojeckt
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posted 12-02-2012 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Philip you must see this, there is a kit.

I build it also several times in different colors.

GACspaceguy
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posted 12-02-2012 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pascal, you have done better than I in obtaining this kit. It took a year for them to send me my kit and I never did get the decals promised seveal times. Be careful.

JWoytach
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posted 12-03-2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JWoytach   Click Here to Email JWoytach     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The web link says it is an Orion model built for Boeing.

Boeing?

Orion is being built by Lockheed Martin.

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posted 09-10-2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that Orion is at last in its flight configuration, I wish someone would produce an accurate model, with the heat tiles and such. (Though of course we still do not know what the real ESA-designed service module will look like.)

Good project for you CAD/3D designers out there — just need to do the design and let Shapeways do the production! Just 3 months to first flight, so get busy!

Daugherty54
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posted 09-10-2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one on order right now... not feeling good hearing some comments above.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 09-11-2014 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, is this better? Same kit with extra 3D printing LES, BPC design from Michael Key.

ESA NASA Version

GACspaceguy
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posted 09-11-2014 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You amaze me, that is so cool!!!

Philip
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posted 09-11-2014 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb scale model Pascal... great job!

garymilgrom
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posted 09-11-2014 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That cutaway BPC is superb Pascal!!

apolloprojeckt
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posted 09-11-2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks people!!! It's looks me very exciting this coming test in December.

bdipaolo
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posted 09-11-2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful! But let's ask Michael to do the final Orion design on Shapeways!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-11-2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lack of models (at present) may be due to the rights over the capsule's design.

Orion is not yet in the public domain. For this first flight (EFT-1), Lockheed Martin retains ownership of the capsule and its design. It won't be until EM-1 that Lockheed will turn over physical and intellectual ownership of Orion to NASA.

mode1charlie
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posted 09-11-2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks great!

keymichael1855
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posted 09-11-2014 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Barrett, I've actually had several people in the last few weeks ask me if I would take on the Orion capsule. I guess the upcoming launch is stirring up some excitement!

I'd be willing to take a shot at designing the capsule to be 3D printed. What scale? 1:48?

Retro Rocket
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posted 09-12-2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At some point NASA will want a bunch of these in 1/50th scale. Keep watching their RFQ site!

GACspaceguy
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posted 09-12-2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by keymichael1855:
What scale? 1:48?
That would have my vote!

Ronpur
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posted 09-12-2014 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to think that Revell has a kit of Orion and SLS coming sometime soon. They have done everything NASA since Mercury. A 1/48 capsule and 1/144 launch vehicle would be typical.

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posted 09-15-2014 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by keymichael1855:
What scale? 1:48?
Yes, 1:48 would be nice! Get that tile detail!

apolloprojeckt
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posted 09-15-2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great!!

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posted 09-15-2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

keymichael1855
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posted 09-16-2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barrett, thanks for the great pics! Any others that you could post or email to me that would help out with the tile detail would be very helpful. I think that I have come up with a good way of doing them. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress. Thanks!

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posted 09-19-2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael: The best source I have found is Orion's Facebook page. Around August 21 they have pics of most of the heat tile sections being attached to the pressure vessel. Later photos show the stacking with the "dummy" service module.

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posted 09-19-2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I'm wrong — CM was stacked to SM before the tiles were installed (oddly). See around June 10 on the Facebook page. The stack was rolled out on Sept. 11.

keymichael1855
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posted 11-24-2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To go along with Robert's post of the beautiful Orion/Delta 4 Heavy stack built by Nick Proach, I wanted to show where I am in the process of creating a 3D printed model of the crew module. Here is how the CAD model looks at this point:

And here is how the 1:72 scale test print came out from Shapeways:

I wanted to make sure that everything looked good and printed successfully before I moved forward. Barrett, the next step is to recreate the 900+ tiles!!! I think that I have a good process for doing it, but I just hope that my old computer will be able to handle them all. Wish me luck!

Retro Rocket
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posted 11-25-2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work! What program are you using for the CAD?

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posted 11-25-2014 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgoldader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gorgeous, Michael! Have you considered using a decal wrap for the tiles? It would save a lot of work.

Retro Rocket
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posted 11-25-2014 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good suggestion, the geo of the capsule is perfect for a 2d layout.

mode1charlie
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posted 11-25-2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael, that looks fantastic! I'll be signing up for one when it's done.

keymichael1855
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posted 11-25-2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I'm very happy with it so far, and I just hope that I can represent the tiles accurately. JP, I use an older version of AutoCAD to do the modeling.

As for using decals to represent the tiles, I've given that some thought and it has positives and negatives. If modeling them doesn't work, that might be a good back up plan. I'll keep you posted!

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posted 11-30-2014 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding Michael! I love the history of spaceflight, but the future is fascinating too. That looks awesome. I'm sure you have seen the pics of the EFT-1 stacking of CM to (dummy) SM on the Orion Facebook page. Next step, a full EFT-1 stack!

keymichael1855
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posted 12-16-2014 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay everybody, Orion is finished!!!

I just finished up with the last of the tiling and details on the CAD model this afternoon. For all of you "rivet counters," don't look at it too closely! Given my CAD ability, computer power, and references available, I've done the best that I can do. Although it isn't perfect, I think it is a pretty good representation of the crew module.

I'm going to be ordering a test print in 1:48 and some other smaller scales this week, and will post pictures when I receive them. Comments welcome!

p51
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posted 12-16-2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any chance you might be selling some of those printings once you get them where you want?

keymichael1855
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posted 12-18-2014 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I will be offering the Orion CM for sale in all scales from 1:144 to 1:24 (or larger if there is a request). Here are my models on my Shapeways page.

They aren't for sale yet, because I want to make sure that they will print successfully first. Hope this helps. Thanks!

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