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Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-11-2011 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Models' first look at their new 1:400 "Memorable Missions of the Space Shuttle" set, as being announced at the All Japan Model & Hobby Show.

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posted 10-11-2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since each model (except for Columbia with the white ET) have already been produced, it shouldn't be too long to see this set. But each shuttle sells for $50, so we're looking at a +/- $250 set...

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posted 10-11-2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Columbia with the white ET was produced 5/6 years ago? This seems like overkill on Dragon's part to me. If they sell it in pieces I'll grab the stacks I do not already have, but will be very difficult to justify duplicating pieces I already have.

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posted 10-11-2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't blame them. Once you've got the mold up and running, why not produce more models. The great thing about this set is that you have all five orbiters in the same configuration.

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posted 10-11-2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not pair them with an MLP instead of that black monolith?

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posted 10-11-2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This series was a reply in part to collectSPACE readers' asking for shuttle models mounted vertically, so as to stand side-by-side with Dragon's other 1:400 rockets.

I will double check but I believe the "black monolith" won't remain black but will have a backdrop photo.

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posted 10-11-2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand them using the molds, and capitalizing on the market, don't get me wrong, from a business standpoint I understand. I just hope they break it up and don't issue all five together or within weeks of each other. An image on the stand would be good if done right, I agree though, a MLP would have been better like the 1/500 Herpa Wings issue.

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posted 10-12-2011 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that a MLP would be a nice addition, even more so that the other rocket models come with their launch pad.

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posted 10-12-2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon should start selling accessories to their models.

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posted 10-14-2011 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ringo67   Click Here to Email ringo67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also agree, (and I've said it before) the MLP would be an awesome addition. I hope these are available separately as Dragon has never sold Discovery with its current markings without a tail cone.

In my opinion, what they should do is sell it in pieces, each of the shuttles sold separately, then you can also buy a SRB/ET stack with MLP, or landing diorama with wheels (and maybe a couple of ground support vehicles) or a NASA 747 with a tail cone. Then you could mix and match.

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posted 10-15-2011 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aren't the markings on the STS-71 orbiter wings inaccurate? It should have the worm logo, not the meatball.

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posted 10-15-2011 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ringo67:
In my opinion, what they should do is sell it in pieces, each of the shuttles sold separately, then you can also buy a SRB/ET stack with MLP, or landing diorama with wheels (and maybe a couple of ground support vehicles) or a NASA 747 with a tail cone. Then you could mix and match.

Brilliant ideas. Add a protective case!

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posted 10-15-2011 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MrSpace86:
Aren't the markings on the STS-71 orbiter wings inaccurate?

It would appear so.

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posted 10-27-2011 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All five shuttles will sell separately for $50 each with a planned release of January 2012. Unfortunately the pictures posted on the Flying Mule website do not load.

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posted 10-27-2011 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to know they're being sold separately. I really want the Columbia stack with the white ET, and I'll probably buy Endeavour as well. The others seem redundant.

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posted 12-12-2011 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the first of the individual Shuttle Memorable Mission sets (#56371) to be announced, Space Shuttle Columbia (STS-1).

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posted 12-19-2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's Challenger:

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posted 12-19-2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most noticeable error with Challenger is on the right wing. The grey in color NASA worm logo should be in line with the black USA on the left wing.

As it looks now, the NASA/Challenger is lower looking because it is centered on the USA/American Flag on the vertical axis.

In addition the black "tile" area located on the inner most part of the wing and under OMS pods is a Triangle shape much like what Enterprise wears. It should be more of a polygon shape.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-23-2011 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by garyd2831:
The grey in color NASA worm logo should be in line with the black USA on the left wing.
Dragon has now corrected for this detail (and the above image has been updated).

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posted 12-23-2011 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert for the update, much better

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-29-2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#56373 Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-124):

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Now Atlantis... #56374 Space Shuttle Atlantis (STS-71):

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Now Endeavour... #56375 Space Shuttle Endeavour (STS-88):

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I just received review samples of Columbia and Discovery. A few quick impressions:
  • The external tank is permanently attached to the the backdrop by two thick posts.

  • The model ships with the solid rocket boosters attached to the tank. They feel like they could separate, but I'm not going to try pulling them until they do.

  • The orbiter is packaged separately and attaches firmly on its three attach points (using pegs).

  • The entire stack, once assembled, floats above the base by about a quarter of an inch.

  • The base leaves a good open space for an signature or two, which may be a selling point for these models to autograph enthusiasts.
As an aside, I am hoping Dragon might consider adding a sixth model to the series — Enterprise (either on SLC-6 or 39A).

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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
As an aside, I am hoping Dragon might consider adding a sixth model to the series — Enterprise (either on SLC-6 or 39A).
Or maybe doing both? Maybe they will also do the shuttle markings for both pre- and post-1998 changes (i.e. NASA worm and Vector).

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Thanks for the info, Robert. That bit about the ET being attached to the backdrop is a little discouraging, as it obviously eliminates other display options. I'll still be buying the Columbia model, and probably Challenger, but that's likely it. The other orbiters are already represented in my Dragon 1:400 collection.

Though if they did do Enterprise at Vandenberg, that would indeed be tempting.

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posted 02-09-2012 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ET permanently attached to the display, and possibly the SRBs also? I too am going to pass, on all of them though. Too bad, they could have made a great piece here.

I'd have paid more for a fully detachable stack, and on a MLP. These never did much for me as they were, and now really do nothing for me.

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posted 02-09-2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cycleroadie:
ET permanently attached to the display, and possibly the SRBs also?
That's a rather dumb idea... there was no need for changes from the other models that came out. And of course, that leaves room for (yet?) another model of Columbia with a white ET. At that point, I'm getting a bit annoyed, to say the least.

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posted 02-09-2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why get annoyed? If you don't like the model, don't buy it. Problem solved.

This is a diorama series and designed accordingly. It will appeal to those who like such displays.

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posted 02-09-2012 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, but the diorama could have been better, that's all I was saying.

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posted 02-10-2012 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Columbia hit the coast today, your preferred supplier should have them in stock soon.

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posted 02-16-2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Challenger display hit the coast today, should be shipping to you soon!

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Originally posted by cspg:
ET permanently attached to the display, and possibly the SRBs also?
On the Flying Mule site, the pictures show that the ET/boosters can be detached from the display (unless it was photoshopped).

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Flying Mule may be reusing photos from Dragon's older STS-1 Columbia, or they may have indeed separated theirs, but doing so would leave two large holes in the back of the external tank.

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Originally posted by cspg:
All five shuttles will sell separately for $50 each with a planned release of January 2012.
The price has increased to $64!

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Received my Columbia/STS-1 model today...looks nice. The ET/SRB stack is attached to the base by a pair of (very) small screws, which come out easily enough with the right size Phillips head. The 2 drill holes in the ET are about 1/16".

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posted 03-06-2012 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Discovery has arrived on the coast, look for it at your local supplier soon.

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Received Columbia and Challenger. Both models would have been better with a better background (actual photo, mission patch, etc or with an identical color) and a display case, especially with the price increase.

Columbia's SRBs are shiny and the ET is matt (?). And one of Challenger's SRB is a bit loose.

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Originally posted by cspg:
And one of Challenger's SRB is a bit loose.

Well, you got off easy. When I received my Challenger, the plastic clamshell ET had come completely unglued, and the metal SRBs were, so to speak, well past SEP; I'm wondering if there was a defective production run of this model. My replacement shipped from the Flying Mule today...should have it mid-next week.

Anyone else have it yet? Any similar issues?

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Following up my previous post, I received my "replacement" Challenger model today...and the vertical fin was broken off. The gentleman who handles returns at Flying Mule said that there have been QC issues with this particular model, though with the one I received today, it looked to me like a case of poor packing...the shipping box was too shallow, and the window on the Dragon box was partially crushed. This has never been an issue with the Flying Mule before. They promised to expedite the exchange, so hopefully third time's the charm.


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