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cspg
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posted 04-29-2011 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Wings 1:72 Gemini spacecraft...

space1
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posted 04-29-2011 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a bad looking model. But unfortunately it's a mix of modes. The horizon scanner fairing is still on (it would be jettisoned immediately after reaching orbit). And the HF recovery antenna near the left hatch is proudly deployed (it would only be used after splashdown).

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posted 04-29-2011 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by space1:
And the HF recovery antenna near the left hatch is proudly deployed (it would only be used after splashdown).
I bet this will be an end user installed item that can be left off. Looks like a great model and better than what is out there now, keep them coming.

A Skylab OWS would be a wonderful item as there is nothing out there now.

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posted 04-30-2011 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon says that both the horizon scanner fairing and the HF recovery antenna are indeed user-installed items.

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posted 04-30-2011 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule has it for $31.99.

cspg
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posted 05-12-2011 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A picture of the model:

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posted 05-12-2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No details on the nose?

cycleroadie
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posted 08-29-2011 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This one landed on the coast on Friday, so it should be available shortly.

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Originally posted by apolloprojeckt:
No details on the nose?
The model (as pictured above) ships with a nose cap that can be removed to reveal the detail.

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posted 08-29-2011 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any details inside the service bay? Pretty nice looking model. I assume these are already painted and assembled?

I wish they were 1/48 instead. I like Dragon's detail, they are just a tad smaller than I would prefer.

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-29-2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now we just need them to do a Gemini Agena and use the data to make an unbuilt kit version and I'll be set.

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posted 09-02-2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule has it on their website now with pics for those wondering about details.

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posted 09-08-2011 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon announced today a new version of their 1:72 Gemini spacecraft, this time with a spacewalker:

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posted 09-08-2011 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can I express politely frustration? Does "%#@°&*" work?

It seems to have a "see-through" section, no? (On edit: Ha-ha-ha. The hatch is open, of course.)

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posted 09-08-2011 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's an interesting release. The first release clearly has solid windows, judging by the Flying Mule photos. I sure hope the Gemini 4 version has transparent windows.

Maybe the first release has an interior too, if you can get the hatches open.

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posted 09-08-2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hatches are not separate pieces on the original release and the windows are indeed opaque.

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posted 09-09-2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although no glue required for this model, you will still have to use a...screwdriver to build the stand! Ok, it's only two tiny screws but...

So now we need the launchers for the Mercury and Gemini spacecrafts. Preferably in 1:72 because at 1:400 it will probably look ridiculously small (the Delta 2 is already really small). I'll be okay with the Saturn too even in plastic - as long as I don't have to start gluing things together.

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posted 09-09-2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The hatches are not separate pieces on the original release and the windows are indeed opaque.

Thanks, Robert. I'll wait for the Gemini 4 version.

Since Gemini is getting an interior, it would be great to get an Apollo and Mercury with an interior too. That would make a good display to show just how small the Mercury and Gemini cabins were compared to the relatively roomy CM.

Ironman One
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posted 12-05-2011 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to purchase the Dragon 1/72 Gemini and noticed the "United States" lettering was way off. So for that reason alone I passed on this. It appears to be generic because there were several and they were all the same.

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posted 12-05-2011 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You say the alignment of "United States" is "way off" but it doesn't look that way to me.

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posted 12-05-2011 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the side view photo on Flying Mule, the UNITED STATES lettering has apparently been printed on straight rows, so when applied to the capsule, it appears curved.

The UNITED, STATES and flag also are offset from one another, not centered.

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posted 12-05-2011 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats right Peter, also the "STATES" is not centered under "UNITED".

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posted 12-05-2011 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ironman One:
Thats right Peter, also the "STATES" is not centered under "UNITED".
All true, but to be fair to Robert, on the real thing the U of united is offset very slightly from the S of states (but no where near as much as Dragon have depicted.

More importantly, the second set of national markings on the starboard side are entirely missing.

And that's without getting into the complete mess Dragon made of the RADAR and reaction control jets.

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posted 12-05-2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this will be corrected. Anyway I'm pleased that they're producing these items.

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posted 12-05-2011 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankly I don't understand why the companies that make spacecraft models don't take the time, and it doesn't require much time as there are plenty of photos to use, to correctly portray the spacecraft. And I'm not talking about the details either.

With the Gemini model a cursory research would have determined that there was no antenna deployed between the hatches until after splashdown (not to mention that the fairing over the horizon scanners was jettisoned for the orbital configuration).

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posted 12-05-2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As already mentioned on this thread, the horizon scanner fairing and the HF recovery antenna are removable. You can choose to display the model with or without them installed.

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posted 12-05-2011 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take it the modules don't separate to simulate all phases of flight including splashdown.

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posted 12-05-2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The modules do not separate.

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posted 12-05-2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the HF antenna is removable it should never had been part of the model.

Since the model doesn't separate it can never be displayed in the recovery configuration (which is the only time that the antenna was deployed).

As stated earlier just a little research would have determined that the antenna is not needed.

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posted 12-06-2011 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by randyc:
Since the model doesn't separate it can never be displayed in the recovery configuration...
Give them ideas to produce more versions of this model!

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posted 12-06-2011 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the suggestion that the horizon scanner fairing is user-installed, I think not. I've removed mine. It's not replaceable, and there are no horizon scanners underneath, at least not on this first release.

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posted 12-24-2011 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Gemini Capsule with spacewalker hit the coast on 12/23 so you should see it at your local or online dealer after Xmas.

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The Gemini capsule with spacewalker is now available in the U.K. There are a couple of things to watch out for with this model (and I'm not going to get involved in the configurations arguments!). The attatchment of the umbilical (at both ends) is quite difficult and, for me, involved the judicious application of a hot needle and superglue. The hatch has VERY small and delicate hinges. Again, for me, the application of superglue (very sparingly) was eventually called for. I noticed, on the display model in my local hobby shop, that the hatch had been left off. I wondered why. Now I know!

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-03-2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The unbuilt kit version of the Gemini Spacecraft with Spacewalker in 1/72 hit the states this week. I picked mine up on Thursday. It is a pretty nice little kit and makes a good alternative for those of you looking to perhaps build a model as opposed to just collecting them.

I just uploaded a video review I shot of the kit. Its about 20 minutes long, but I go into pretty good detail about what I found that is accurate and maybe not entirely accurate. Take a look and you be the judge.

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posted 03-04-2012 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Jay. Where did you pick up this kit version? I can't find it anywhere.

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-04-2012 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found mine at a local hobby shop as the US distributors have them (some don't quite have them yet, but give them a week or two as the supply chain trickles in). I imagine the UK suppliers will be getting theirs pretty quick as well.

But you could also order one from HLJ.com as well if you want to get one shipped in. Starshipmodeler.com has them for under $20 and can ship to the UK (of course, you might get zinged with import fees, but this is a pretty inexpensive model so it shouldn't be much).

But, you guys in Europe are lucky to have the Revell 1/24 Geminis available again. It looks like they are selling for slightly less than the Dragon kit.

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posted 04-28-2012 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacemac   Click Here to Email Spacemac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought the Dragon 1/72 Gemini with spacewalker model kit but the instructions are not very clear as to what colors the model should be painted.

Can anyone recommend the colors I should paint the model? Particularly the capsule (which looks like a steel blue on the cover) and the service module which looks white. Thanks.

Jay Chladek
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posted 04-28-2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The service module is indeed white. As for the capsule, the shingles are made out of an alloy called Rene 41 which is flat blueish black in color (it is not painted, although I believe some elements of the capsule's outer structure are). When a capsule goes through reentry, then it tends to look blacker in color.

As for colors, I would say typical flat black model paint is a bit too dark, but there are some other black shades you can use. In my case, I am going to do the capsule in Navy Blue and heavily overpaint with Tamiya smoke, then flat coat once the decals are applied. Floquil Grimy black is a good possible color as well (available in the Floquil rail road colors line).

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