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Topic: Karst-onian Kollection: "A Place for Space"
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dtemple
Member Posts: 777
From: Longview, Texas, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-14-2012 02:36 PM
   
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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
A big thanks to Dave (dtemple) for getting me a 1/200 scale kit of the CSM/LM from AMT that included a LES.
Glad to help. Couldn't let you pilfer a good kit just for the LES when I had an extra available. Fortunately, years ago I built an AMT 1/200th scale Saturn IB as Apollo 5 and didn't need the LES. Funny how events can tie together over time that way. |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1551
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-14-2012 04:40 PM
Very nice Fred this growing collection. What will be your next hunt? |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 07-14-2012 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by apolloprojeckt:
What will be your next hunt?
Not sure it really is a hunt as much opportunities. We would really like a 1/96 scale Saturn 1B. I am thinking about using the Revell Saturn V kit for the SIV-B and everything above it. Just out there looking for the right diameter tubes as well as corrugated styrene. Plenty of body putty and except for the engine bells I think it can be done.
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dtemple
Member Posts: 777
From: Longview, Texas, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 07-14-2012 06:39 PM
Martin's Models offered a 1/96th scale Saturn IB (and Saturn I) for a while. According to the website the molds need some work and once that is done these will be offered again. I bought two Saturn Is and a Saturn IB first stage - already had an old, incomplete Revell Saturn V from which I rebuilt the S-IVB stage. I opted to build the cancelled free-flying LM Apollo Telescope Mount launch vehicle. If you chose to wait until this kit is offered again just be aware the castings are a bit crude; a components are not planer and need a lot of flash removed. Still the Saturns can be made into a nice models. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 07-14-2012 09:17 PM
I wish Estes would repop their 1/100 Saturn 1B kit (technically, it was a reissue of the Centuri 1/100 kit, but with some Estes specific parts on it for the capsule and LES). Although it was a flying model rocket, it was a very well designed model IMHO. These days, the original kits are pretty dang impossible to find and command a pretty hefty pricetag when they are found (which is why I would like Estes to redo it).Another big Saturn 1B that is currently available is the Semroc flying model rocket kit in 1/70 scale (an updated clone of the 1960s Estes kit). I've got one in the works right now (doing it as SA-207). While it does need a bit of skill to build properly, it can be built into a pretty stunning model. Rather than going with corregated styrene, styrene strip would probably do the job pretty well. If you do plan a scratchbuild, the David Weeks planset for the Saturn 1B is practically a must (available from Realspace models). I'm using one of those plansets myself right now to give some added accuracy to my Semroc Saturn 1B model. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-14-2012 10:35 PM
I remember when the ORIGINAL Saturns first came out by Estes when they would cluster the engines because there wasn't really anything powerful enough to get them off the ground — then you prayed that all four engines would ignite so it would go straight up. But I wouldn't mind building that Estes Saturn 1b myself. Still my favorite launch vehicle. But very fond memories of the originals back in the 60's. But clustering those engines was a real bear at times.Doesn't Apogee still have the flying versions of both the IB and the V on 1/70 in stock? |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 07-15-2012 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by divemaster:
Doesn't Apogee still have the flying versions of both the IB and the V on 1/70 in stock?
It looks like Apogee is indeed still around (and they seemed to have weathered the wildfires just fine). I completely forgot about these (although I don't have the budget to get either of them) Here's the catalog.The Apogee Saturns look to both be over $200, but they use some pretty high tech components on them. Semroc's Saturn 1B kit by comparison looks to be more old school (cardboard and wood mostly) and only costs $78. You can build it as a single D powered bird or as a four engine C cluster (which I am doing as I have a launch controller that can handle clusters with ease). Come on, it is "Cluster's last stand" you've GOT to cluser it.  If I fly mine, it is likely only going to fly once. It looks like the capsule and the LES at least is available for about $20. So I may source one of those for my build if it fits(and perhaps the baseplate with the H-1 engines, which the Semroc kit doesn't have). I'm still moving ahead and building mine though so I can give my building skills a workout. But once my finances improve, I know what one of my future purchases might be (assuming Dragon doesn't issue a 1/72 Saturn V kit after all that is). |
kosmo
Member Posts: 537
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Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 07-15-2012 10:42 AM
Apogee is still making their Saturn 1B and Saturn V skill level 5 rocket kits. Very nice kits and when there done look beautiful, well worth the money. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 08-19-2012 06:41 PM
Took a week off and it rained all week (it was the week Curiosity landed so we were able to follow it well on cS and the NASA channel). For some that would be bad, for us that afforded the opportunity to work on a room in the house and turn it into a library as well as some new displays.
We put up our newly arrived Winco pin collection. Also displayed is a 1/48 collection of Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacecraft, the shuttle fleet and a shelf for our Weapons of Mass Destruction/cold war missiles (still on the hunt for a reasonably priced Topping Bomarc missile). 
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GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 08-19-2012 06:44 PM
I need some help here. We picked up a large 3'x3' Apollo 15 relief map (1:12,500 scale) from the Goldberg auction. It is really cool with a deep relief view of Hadley Rille. I worked on a number of tests this weekend trying to display it in a frame and, using LED lights trying to illuminate it. I am at the point where I may just frame it with a simple frame hang it in the hallway, mount a spot light on the opposite wall (up high) and illuminate it that way. That is fine until you step directly in front of the map and then you block the light.
We saw a couple of these maps on display at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville and the display was done well as it was in a boxed frame with some sort of illumination in the box. If anyone has any photos of those displays I sure would like to see them. Also, any thoughts on a display approach would be well received, thanks.  
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MattJL
Member Posts: 57
From: New Jersey, US
Registered: May 2012
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posted 08-19-2012 08:25 PM
Instead of mounting a spotlight across from the relief map, would it be possible to mount LEDs or smaller spotlights just above the frame on the same wall? They'd have to be on stands or blocks so they didn't cast a shadow across the entire map, but they'd have the advantage of not being blocked when standing in front of it (and would showcase the topography). |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 08-20-2012 05:00 AM
I could try that but I was planning on hanging it higher up the wall so mounting the light maybe a challange. But you have given me some thoughts about externally mounted lights. Thanks. |
history in miniature
Member Posts: 643
From: Slatington, PA
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 08-20-2012 07:10 PM
Fred that looks fantastic, congratulations.
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ilbasso
Member Posts: 1527
From: Greensboro, NC USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 08-20-2012 08:46 PM
I have a similar type of lunar relief map that I want to display, and I was pondering the same questions. Mine has been signed by a lot of astronauts, too, so I'm worried about displaying it in such a way that the signatures are less in danger of fading. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-24-2012 01:08 PM
I was given this CM in a few pieces and decided to try and make "lemonade out of lemons". The heat shield is signed by Charlie Duke so I had to do something and thought that rather than try and repair it I trimmed out the rough spots and produced a cut away version. I cleaned up the edges using a dremel tool and then accented the edge with red paint. I bonded the tunnel assembly back on the top and added an aluminum connector tube simulating what would have been the tunnel's exterior. I think it came out very well and now has a new home with the 1/12 scale LM , a 1/12 scale CSM as well, the 1/200 scale Saturn 1B and the 1/100 scale Saturn V among some other items.  
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apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1551
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 11-24-2012 01:13 PM
That looks great Fred!!!! My compliments, good idea. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-24-2012 01:28 PM
Below is the new home for a 1/12 scale shuttle main engine. After being over bid by a mere $22,000 at the ASF auction it was great to see that the Heritage auction had it for sale as a post auction buy (thanks Scott for make a note of such in your posting as I grabbed it ASAP). Although it arrived damaged with a number of the tubes broken, the restoration I did this morning has it looking as best as it can be.
It now resides in one of our dinning room curios along with some other Shuttle items. 
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garymilgrom
Member Posts: 2132
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 11-24-2012 05:25 PM
Wow Fred! Congratulations on this addition to your addiction. I'm not sure why the 22K bidding war kept you from acquiring it earlier, but I'm glad you have it now.1/12 scale eh? I have some model cars by Tamiya in that size if it would give the engine some scale. What I think you really need is a 1/12 scale orbiter (hint nick proach) or some 1/12 scale people. GREAT find! |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-24-2012 07:15 PM
Gary, good idea on a 1/12 person. I am starting the search now. |
history in miniature
Member Posts: 643
From: Slatington, PA
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-24-2012 07:31 PM
Fred, great job on the CM. Beautiful displays as always. |
alexbaja
Member Posts: 448
From: Naxxar, Malta
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 11-25-2012 02:32 AM
Beautiful Fred, not only as a collection but even the way you blend the models together in your display units. I love your latest acquisition of the 1:12 scale shuttle main engine. Having a model like that enhances your collection. Keep up the good work of collecting these priced pieces. |
Joel Katzowitz
Member Posts: 872
From: Marietta GA USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-25-2012 07:49 AM
Hey Fred, I've got a photo of Gary that I could print at 1/12 scale and then contour cut for you. But then you'd have him staring at you from your display every day. |
Gilbert
Member Posts: 1514
From: Carrollton, GA USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 11-25-2012 08:25 AM
Your collection continues to amaze. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 265
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 11-25-2012 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
Gary, good idea on a 1/12 person. I am starting the search now.
Tamiya also made a series of 1/12 figures for their automotive kits, if I recall correctly, a driver and various "pit crew" members. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 12-04-2012 11:29 AM
We decided to pick up another item from the post auction at Heritage (Jackie's advice when I was trying to decide if I really wanted to buy it was "when will you see another one?" — she is a great partner!). It is a Spacelab model and the plaque specifically states SLS 1&2. It looks to be about 1/20 scale and is clear at both ends with a clear section at one end to view the interior. The end cap is attached to the interior and allows us to pull out the actual interior. An added feature is that the panel section in front of the window can be removed and displayed externally.As you can see in the pictures it has been displayed in the curio below the shuttle engine so that we keep that theme going in that curio. We are displaying it with the one panel mounted externally. Unfortunately it arrived broken as that interior removable interior panel was not packaged separately so it rattled around inside the model during shipping and damaged a number of parts including separation of the end cap. I spent about four hours figuring out where all the damaged parts came from and then carefully glued them all back in place. You would need to look real close to see that it had been damaged. It is a good looking model with some NASA marking indicating it was in their possession. I am sure it was used in the discussions for the various missions the real lab was flown on.  
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apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1551
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 12-04-2012 11:46 AM
That looks great Fred. Is this a 1/8? I'm busy with an ISS Columbus 1/20. The diameter of the module is 25 cm.Very nice model! |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 12-04-2012 01:53 PM
Good catch Pascal, the scale is actually about 1/20 as well (1/8 would be nice though). I have edited the original post. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 02-16-2013 10:44 AM
I finally figured out how to display the Apollo 15 relief map (mentioned above). We put together a wood frame and then wrapped it with gold Mylar giving it that LM decent stage look. There is a little bit of foam support in the back and at some point we may add a plexiglass covering with the EVA routes marked on the plexiglass. However, at least it is on display finally.  
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GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 02-16-2013 10:50 AM
Based on the recent discussions about the IKEA display cases for the 1/72 scale Dragon Models' Saturn V my wife and I had to make a trip to Atlanta to pick up a few. Here is what we did with four of them. We replaced a very restrictive curio with the more open view. See the before and after photos below.  
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GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 02-16-2013 10:52 AM
We picked up a new Topping model this week and added it to our Gemini shelf. It is an Agena and we picked it up on eBay as the only bidder. We were surprised that we managed to get it at the price we did but sometimes you win when others sleep.   
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GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 02-16-2013 10:55 AM
We have cleaned up a 1/144 Skylab model that appears to be a Marshall Space Flight Center model that at sometime in the past was painted white. We had to make new ATM solar collectors as well as a couple of main panels but it looks good. The display base is home made and reflects the style of the 1/48 scale MSFC we have. As you can see it is displayed on top of our 1/72 Saturn modified for the workshop. The picture above it is one of Ed Hengeveld's originals signed by all of the Skylab astronauts except Pete Conrad.  
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Jurg Bolli
Member Posts: 1214
From: Albuquerque, NM
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-16-2013 05:59 PM
As always, very cool. |
p51
Member Posts: 1784
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 02-16-2013 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
I think it came out very well and now has a new home with the 1/12 scale LM , a 1/12 scale CSM as well, the 1/200 scale Saturn 1B and the 1/100 scale Saturn V among some other items.
Who made the 1/12 scale LM and 1/12 scale CSM?A guy I used to serve with had a thing for that scale, was always scratch building models of our unit's equipment. I remember he was telling me there were companies that made figures in that scale and he used them as a basis for making soldiers out of them. I bet a Google search would turn that up, wouldn't be tough to make a 'in transit' crew in their whites out of them... |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 02-16-2013 06:29 PM
The LM was originally built by the Grumman model works. See this thread for more info. The CSM is a creation by Carlos Santos (Santos Design Solutions). He is Scorpius on this forum. Carlos has built for us the Accurate F-1 engine, Custom GI Joe Mercury with LES and a scratch built 1/48 Skylab, all of which have been posted on cS. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 03-03-2013 11:35 AM
Here is our latest addition. It is a lucite of a piece of the insulation from Hubble. What better than to display it than by a model crafted by one of the best space molders out there, Steve Nichols. 
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the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 03-03-2013 12:43 PM
What an amazing collection you have of NASA models and collectibles. Your home is a wonderful museum! |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 03-04-2013 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by the clocks running:
What an amazing collection you have of NASA models and collectibles. Your home is a wonderful museum!
Thanks. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 3041
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 04-01-2013 11:08 AM
This weekend we found a nice corner shelf at Lowes that turned into a new Mercury Program display in the corner of the great room. The shelf allowed me to put two brass tubes for pins and mounting a large scale Mercury Atlas model, a GI Joe, and one of those stainless steel Mercury symbols that were being sold here on cS a few years back.
Joining that corner are a few signature items as well: a John Glenn framed display that you see from time to time with a shot of his Mercury and shuttle lift off as well the mission patches. I have replaced the photo of Glenn with a signed photo. Below that is an original Ed Hengeveld of Wally Schirra which is also signed by Wally. On the opposing corner there is a launch photo of Glenn's flight signed by Guenter Wendt and below that a two frame display of some fragments of the Mercury spacecraft that was destroyed in the first attempt to launch it on an Atlas.
But the crowning jewel and the reason that gave me the vision for the Mercury Corner is the giclee of Paul Calle's "Power," which is on the wall above and to the left of the corner. On the opposite wall is a display of the AB Emblem Mercury souvenir patches.
All in all a good use of a small corner, at least we think so.  
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history in miniature
Member Posts: 643
From: Slatington, PA
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 04-01-2013 05:20 PM
Fred, your Mercury corner tells quite a story, very nice. |
Gilbert
Member Posts: 1514
From: Carrollton, GA USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-02-2013 10:17 AM
Very cool. Your Mercury collection is amazing, as is the entire collection. |
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