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GACspaceguy
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posted 06-19-2016 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SpaceyInMN:
Living in Minnesota, I envy those of you with easier access to launches.
Understand that, we are but a 4 hour drive away. That was one of the reasons I moved to the Savannah area from Montreal. One month after buying a car when I was in Savannah I went to STS 41-B, February 1984.

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Yesterday, I received a very realistic replica of the Apollo 14 lunar golf club. Years ago, I mentioned to Fred that I was on the lookout for an accurate replica including the same type of golf club head used by Shepard. After all those years, Fred still remembered that request and found a beautiful replica.

Fred, you have my sincere thanks for remembering and helping me get the club. And that is why I enjoy this hobby. It is a valuable part of the collection now.

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-06-2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We added a LM decent engine model to our Kollection. This is in very good condition and was built by the Grumman Model Works.

It is missing the plaque though, so if anyone has one or a picture of the plaque that belongs with the model I would appreciate a photo so we can have one made to complete the model.

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Handsome piece, Fred.

Have a look at this image on earthtothemoon.com for a plaque reference (can't quite read it but I imagine you could get a better pic from the site owner).

Followed this on eBay and figured it was headed to Georgia.

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That's a beautiful model Fred. I wonder why they would fabricate the bell out of Mahogany and leave it natural as opposed to painting it? It's certainly a piece of art as it is.

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-14-2016 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael Key made a delivery this weekend of a couple of his creations.

We have added one of his F-1 engine "mirror" models. It replicates the engine display as the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum. The second is the Apollo 1 model that has been shown on his thread.

They are amazing to view and Jackie and I are proud to display them front and center in the showcases that are just inside the front entrance. Big thanks for Michael and his work!

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You are very welcome Fred!!! It was a real pleasure to visit the Karst-onian once again, and I'm glad that they finally landed in a great spot front and center! You and Jackie were very gracious hosts, and your Kollection is simply AMAZING!!!

GACspaceguy
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I finally finished a project started in January 2014 (see the Jan. 23, 2014 post on this thread). It is a 1/144 Space Launch System (SLS) and because I took so long it is now in the new livery. Lots of help from Michael Key who did the Orion CSM section and decaled the solid rocket boosters. It is sitting beside the Toys & Models version of the first livery version.

I used a 1/144 shuttle kit(s) for the engines and four segments of the boosters as well as the mobile launch platform from the kit. There is a same scale Saturn V and space shuttle on the shelf as well.

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That looks great Fred!!!!

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Awesome!

GACspaceguy
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posted 09-21-2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After a few years in the making, we finally made the trip to pick up a Saturn V and Saturn IB both in 1/48 scale, models that Carlos (cS: Scorpius) has had in work for us.

When he started, he lived in Champaign, Illinois, not a short drive from here in Guyton, Georgia but okay. When he finished, he was in Cheyenne, Wyoming, a significant drive.

If you search you will find that Carlos has built a number of models for the Kollection (1/48 Skylab and a 1/12 CSM scratch build to name a couple) and these two new Saturns are every bit the quality build that his amazing talents can turn out. Included into the models are a few of the 3D parts Michael Key produced in support of the build and it was exciting to get those two working together on the same build.

Jackie and I did not want to even think of shipping these models, so we had determined when the time was right that we would pack up the Tahoe and head west. We left out on Friday, Sept. 2 at the tail end of hurricane Hermine (tropical storm as it passed over our area).

We headed up north and west to see Liberty Bell 7 in the Children's Museum in Illinois, swung by the American Pickers' original store front in Iowa, Minuteman Missile Museum in South Dakota (they let you run 80 mph on those highways, legally), the South Dakota Air and Space Museum, Wyoming State Museum (hey, they have a missile base in Cheyenne so there was some space items there), the Texas Air & Space Museum in Amarillo, Texas to see GII s/n 146 Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA) on display (they let you go inside)...

...Stafford Air & Space Museum in Weatherford, Oklahoma, Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas (Apollo 7 CM on display), Houston to Johnson Space Center and a tour of our own Robert Pearlman's space collection, Infinity Science Center in Mississippi, then home. That was a 5,000 mile driving adventure and those were only the space highlights.

Here are the photos of the Saturns picked up in Cheyenne inside the Tahoe (first two stages together just fit in the back), as well as the new display at home. The photo does not do them justice as the ceiling height is 13 feet — the Saturn V is huge! This has been a dream of mine since I can remember to have all the 1960's U.S. human space vehicles in a large scale, i.e. 1/48. We now have it.

One of the biggest highlights outside of the space-related stops was being at the Dealey Plaza Museum, where JFK was shot. If you have never been and you can, you should. We happened to be there on Sept. 11, which was even more humbling than I could have imagined.

Favorite space story from the trip is a life lesson learner. While waiting for Carlos to get off of work (Carlos is Curator of Exhibits for the Wyoming State Museum, as well as champion Saturn builder) and go to his house for the pick up, we went to his suggested walk to the Train Museum in downtown Cheyenne. We walked into a small pawn shop around the corner from there, as we do just in case there is a stray piece of space memorabilia hiding there.

Jackie reviewed the jewelry case as she does in the quest for a space related pin. A Silver Snoopy is on our list of wanting but not at the current prices out there. Well, she found a pin and it had Snoopy on it. She asked to see it and the lady said it was stamped sterling, so Jackie asked if I thought this was the right pin. Being the expert I am I said no, too small, and I really did not study it close. In my mind the pin should have been about an inch tall and it was not. Jackie suggested we buy it anyway as it was an astronaut after all. It was put back and on we went to the Saturn pickup.

Fast forward to Robert's collection walkthrough and of course he has a flown Silver Snoopy, which Jackie drew to my attention. It was then when my heart sank, I saw in front of me the pin that was not bought in that pawn shop. Added to that feeling, neither one of us could remember at that time just exactly where we saw the unbought pin.

After some serious thought and discussions we did remember it was the Cheyenne pawn shop. We sent an e-mail to Carlos and his wife was able to pick it up at that pawn shop for $4, which they will not let us reimburse I may add. It is on its way to our Kollection now.

Two lessons from that story, one — always listen to your wife, two — when you wife says to buy something that looks like an astronaut refer to lesson one. Jackie found a Silver Snoopy pin in a pawn shop in Cheyenne, Wyoming, amazing!

There is a ton of stuff I could say about the trip but the best part is Jackie is planning the next trip, a drive out to LA to see the new Endeavour display once finished. She's a keeper.

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Fred, it was great having you and Jackie visit and I am thrilled that it led to you picking up a Silver Snoopy (for only $4 no less!).

The Saturn display looks awesome!

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WOW!!! Those look amazing Fred- well done Carlos! Yeah, your 13 foot ceilings are taking a little justice away from them in the pics, but I can only imagine how impressive they look in person. I was glad to be a small part in these builds, and Carlos was a pleasure to work with. The boosters look great back at home on the SLS as well!

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Very impressive models in 1/48 scale! I have dreamed of a Saturn V that big since I built one from construction paper for my old Revel CSM when I was 7!

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posted 09-23-2016 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Silver Snoopy has made it into the Karst-onian.

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Great story, Fred, thanks for sharing! And yes, she definitely IS a keeper!

Models look great, and I think your story validates the maxim that the important part of a trip is not the destination, but the journey.

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posted 09-24-2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Jackie puts out a mean lunch buffet.

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posted 11-23-2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had a few days off and while doing some clean up in what we call my "office" (it is more of a staging area for the Kollection) I found an old LM base. Wondering what to do with it I decided it would be a great start to a model of the lander in the movie "Countdown" with James Cann. As the main bathroom has a sci-fi theme I thought that would be the best place for the final product. Here it is.

If anyone has a better photo from the movie of the model I sure would appreciate it as I would like to frame it and put it on the wall next to the model.

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I worked on a few things over my week off. First is the end product of a contractor H-1 engine model in 1/10 scale. It arrived somewhat in a damaged state (see photo). Some of these models do have transport boxes and if those transporting them are careful, they do fine. The problem is that most shipping companies treat them as just another box. So let me give those who would ever ship models some pointers here.

From my experience, anything that sticks out such as the nozzles, tubes, and tanks need to be supported with foam between the part and the body. In this way when the model moves it does not become supported on those parts. Once the items are supported then it needs to be wrapped in white tissue type paper, and then tightly wrapped in the small cell bubble wrap, not the large.

If the model comes apart in sections, even if there is a designed case for the model, wrap all sections separately including the case as a separate item. Once the complete model is wrapped in small bubble wrap then a second layer of large bubble wrap can be used followed by putting in a box with packing peanuts. Then that box needs to be placed into another box with packing peanuts. In that way if the outside box is abused the inside box is safe and the inside box does not absorb any impact just the outside box.

One more point, there is little need for much tape on the outside of the bubble wrap. I have had people wrap the tape so tight it broke the model. Also, you cannot see the tape and it is difficult to get the tape off the bubble wrap and not damage the very thing it was meant to protect.

Okay, back to the H-1, fixed it up but it was missing a major tube so I built a mock up (see photo) and sent it with a number of photos of a complete model (thanks Scott!) and sent it to Michael Key and he did the 3D modeling of the needed parts sent them to me primed and ready for paint. The last two photos are the finished product.

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Our second project was something we have had in mind for a few years and finally took the time to make it happen. We got together photos of all the launches we have been to and made an individual frame with the photo we took of that launch, the flight patch and a small plaque with the flight and date on it. We then placed them all in order on the wall above our exit to the outside.

The photo shows the display, however I could not get them all in so there are four more on each side if that which is seen in the photo. Now every time we leave the house we leave with a launch memory.

Also on that same area we have a photo of Scott Kelly and his plaque for 1000 flights on a F-14 Tomcat.

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Navy rules... great stuff!

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Completed H-1 looks terrific Fred!!! I was glad to produce a few parts for you to fill in for the missing pieces.

Very good info on packing/shipping as well. I, too, have received many packages with some sketchy packaging.

Can't wait to see what 2017 brings to the Karst-onian!

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Superb Fred!

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Very nice!

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Great!! Where did you find that nice H engine?

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It was a buy-it-now/best offer on eBay. Great seller as when he saw the shipping damage he immediately offered a partial refund for the repairs.

When I buy older contractor type models I expect some minimal repairs as the glue is old and parts come apart when bumped around.

My frustration comes when there is some obvious lack of planning for shipping.

I had one fellow package the model poorly and insured it at a high amount because he did not get the price for the model that he was hoping for on eBay. He even proposed splitting the amount with me so that I would "come out ahead" as well.

Apart from the fact that is fraud, I told him that money I can get more of (it just takes time) these contract models are not made and when they are gone they are gone. I repaired the model and it is on display (no refund at all from that guy).

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posted 04-15-2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I know this never made it past the conceptual phase, it was an interesting idea. It is an ATK Liberty crewed vehicle. We picked this up and at 1/144 scale it is about 26" tall. It is made of two solid resin parts.

We added it to the bookshelf of rockets and planes, some flown, some just an idea.

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Nice!

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Added to the Saturns is a 1/100 Saturn I in the box with "talking notes" in que cards.

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Also picked up a concept model 1/100 scale called an ALS. Here is what I found online:
The Space Transportation Architecture Study and Advanced Launch System (ALS) Studies.

In addition to the long-term goals of the National Space Transportation and Support Study, the government wanted to examine payload requirements and launch options projected over the middle term (e.g., 1985-1995). Toward that end, a jointly funded NASA, Air Force and SDIO Space Transportation Architecture Study (STAS) was offered in June 1985, and four contracts worth approximately $6,000,000 apiece were awarded to Boeing, Rockwell International, General Dynamics and Martin Marietta on 6 September 1985.

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I picked up this concept model and here is the description of what it could have been. Below is a description I found online, any more info would be great.
Named "Jarvis" after Hughes employee Gregory Jarvis who was lost with Challenger, the initial design used ET-diameter tanks, but no other shuttle elements. It would have been powered by a pair of F-1 Saturn V first stage engines and a single J-1 second stage engine. A smaller hypergolic trim stage would have been used to place up to six GPS satellites, or up to 38.6 tonnes, into orbit during a single launch.

By the end of 1986, Boeing had shifted the design toward its earlier in-line shuttle-derived plans. Using four-segment SRBs, a core stage with a single SSME would have orbited 36 tonnes. A two-SSME core would have launched nearly 64 tonnes. Three SSMEs would have lifted nearly 84 tonnes. Two SSMEs in a recovery module would have orbited 59 tonnes.

With a Centaur G-Prime upper stage, Jarvis would have been able to boost 7.7 tonnes to geosynchronous orbit, roughly equivalent to 15.5 tonnes to geosynchronous transfer orbit (GTO). Although Jarvis was never developed, the Boeing/Hughes relationship eventually spawned an active commercial launch system named Sea Launch.

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When are you going to get one of the engines that flew Apollo 11 to the moon?

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I felt that the top of the SIV-B model needed some additions. The SIV-B was the stage that ultimately pushed the Apollo stack onto the moon and the mission returned home to the Mobile Quarantine Facility (MQF). I modified an Airstream model with a few markings to give that "return them safely to the Earth" mission accomplished feel.

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Awesome, as usual.

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Looks like the inside of the house is filling up these days so we are working on a little yards art project.

The plan is to have all the exposed surfaces being aluminum or PVC. That way it can survive the blazing sun here in the Savannah area. The details will be missing the corrugation on the lower end of the mail body as I cannot figure out what would work there so a plain aluminum skin wrapped around a inner skeleton of pressure treated pine.

The LES body tube will go through the tower so the purists out there just turn away. More to come as we move along.

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Things are coming along on the 1/6 scale Little Joe II yard art. The CM/LES is complete, the center section of the booster and I am in work with the booster/fin assembly.

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It looks great Fred, be sure to send me a launch invitation when you get ready for ignition.

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Isn't that a SALT violation?

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posted 07-31-2017 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Latest eBay pick up is this LC-39 model. It is 1/144 scale and was a pick up only buy that required 1000 miles round trip of driving this weekend but it is in the Kollection safe and sound.

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Nice. You should have stopped by and said hello since you were on the road.


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