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Norman.King
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posted 05-11-2010 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 2003hdannv:
With back orders like this they just might meet there 1 million mark.

If they're going to they'll need a steady producation stream so you shouldnt have to wait too long to get one. (I still doubt they'll sell anywhere near that amount).

2003hdannv
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posted 05-11-2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2003hdannv   Click Here to Email 2003hdannv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope they do not anytime soon as I could not believe that there was such a back log on these models. I hope I can still get one within two weeks.

dsenechal
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posted 05-12-2010 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess is that they produced, or will produce, a finite number of these models, and that will be that (sort of like Code 3). If that is the case, look for drastically inflated aftermarket prices.

mslekar
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posted 05-13-2010 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mslekar   Click Here to Email mslekar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I just received my Saturn V, it is very well done and super detail. Now just bring on the rest of the launchers and make it a nice collection!

Sam Que
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posted 05-20-2010 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I placed my order last Wednesday and was surprised to have it delivered on Monday. The unit is far more detailed than what I expected it would be. My only issue was that the silver base had scuffs and scratches. Any ideas on how to buff out or repair?

Has anyone tried to order an additional LM ascent stage, and CM and SM for the extra display?

All in all, very satisfied with the item.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 05-21-2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The scruffy base as described is more than likely the plastic film that covers the pristine polished base. If you bite your fingers you may have problems finding the corner but it should just peel off; mine did.

Sam Que
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posted 05-21-2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick, thank you for pointing that out. I never would have noticed. I guess I should use my reading glasses more often.

2003hdannv
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posted 06-02-2010 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2003hdannv   Click Here to Email 2003hdannv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me how the Apollo 11 and Saturn V Launch Vehicle plate attaches to the base. Thanks.

2003hdannv
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posted 06-04-2010 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2003hdannv   Click Here to Email 2003hdannv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sure was hoping at least one other member would have helped me with some advice on the plaque but oh well!!

Bill Hunt
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posted 06-04-2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I ask where you guys are ordering from?

Peter Kemp
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posted 06-04-2010 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Kemp   Click Here to Email Peter Kemp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably not much help to you Bill as I'm in the UK but I pre-ordered two examples of this model direct from Japan when I heard of it via this forum:
  1. From Hobby Link - Japan (hlj.com -- best to check this link) paying just over 57,000 yen including shipping to the UK

  2. From HW Japan (hwjapan.com) and this one cost me just over 52,000 yen shipped to the UK.
Shipping to the USA might be cheaper.

There were a couple on eBay earlier today I think the asking price was about $600.

I've also pre-ordered the Saturn V 4D-Cutaway model from HW-Japan which should have been released anytime now. I've paid 15,840 yen but shipping to the UK via EMS will have to be added and that will bump up the cost quite a lot.

I hope this information is of some help. Good luck in finding a Bandai Saturn as they are rather good.

2003hdannv
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posted 06-04-2010 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2003hdannv   Click Here to Email 2003hdannv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill, email me and I will tell you where I purchased mine. Order was placed on Monday and arrived at my door from Japan on Wednesday - three days. My total was 49,600 which included shipping. expect to pay around $100 or 10,000 yen for shipping but it is worth it.

Bill Hunt
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posted 06-04-2010 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks - e-mail sent!

GoesTo11
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posted 06-04-2010 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 2003hdannv:
Can anyone tell me how the Apollo 11 and Saturn V Launch Vehicle plate attaches to the base. Thanks.

I'm assuming that you're referring to the metal "legend" plate shown on the base in the demo pics on this thread. It attaches to the base with adhesive tape included in the same packet as the instruction booklets and the US flags for the Tranquility Base secondary display. It's all in Japanese, so it's easy to miss. Hope that answers your question.

2003hdannv
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posted 06-05-2010 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2003hdannv   Click Here to Email 2003hdannv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your response to my question. The plaque is now attached to the base.

contra
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posted 04-24-2011 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally finished the model stand for my Bandai Saturn V.

Apollo Redux
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posted 04-24-2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo Redux   Click Here to Email Apollo Redux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done, contra.

Sam Que
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posted 04-24-2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice display - great idea. Would you share the vendor and the dimensions for the display? Thanks.

RSimon007
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posted 06-08-2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RSimon007   Click Here to Email RSimon007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings. I fear I've waited too long in deciding to purchase one of these. Is anyone aware of any store or online supplier that still has any in stock?

alexbaja
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posted 10-04-2011 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guy's hold your breath. One of these just sold for $1,775. A sound investment indeed.

Kevmac
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posted 10-04-2011 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevmac   Click Here to Email Kevmac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone with some pull has got to call Bandai and convince them to make more of these things!

Norman.King
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posted 10-05-2011 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alexbaja:
One of these just sold for $1,775.
Wow, that's crazy but if anyone else wants to pay that much for a Bandai Saturn V can I be the first in line to offer mine?

alexbaja
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posted 10-05-2011 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hang on to them guys because with this investment in the future it will surely buy us a ticket on Virgin Galactic to a trip in space (of course not to the moon).

apolloprojeckt
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posted 12-03-2011 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will come there a second production round of this Saturn v rocket?

SuperKungFu
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posted 01-13-2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know of any contact methods to ask if Bandai would make another Saturn V rocket or even more shuttles? Kind of a waste to stop if they already have the mold.

I want to get a Bandai Saturn V but I'm not going to spend over $1000 for one, that was just one eBay fluke. Probably the seller bought it himself to make it look like there's a high demand... now all the eBay prices are over $1000.

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posted 01-17-2012 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theclocksrunning     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have spent a great deal of time trying to find the Bandai Apollo 11 Saturn V for a more reasonable price without much luck.

Yesterday I spoke with Bluefin, a US distributor, and it appears that the Otona No Chogokin Apollo 11 vehicle was a limited run. I wish that Bandai would re-release this model.

I own the shuttle model and you can still get this fairly easily. Bluefin has it listed on their website for $525 but you will need to actually purchase the model from a retailer.

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posted 01-17-2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theclocksrunning:
It seems that the Otona No Chogokin Apollo 11 vehicle was a limited run. I wish that Bandai would re-release this model.
But a higher price!

Otherwise it would irritate all the ones who thought that it was a limited run.

alexbaja
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posted 01-17-2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good one Chris!!!

cycleroadie
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posted 01-17-2012 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just release it as Apollo 12 or 13. Dragon did it.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 01-17-2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wait on the next round...

SuperKungFu
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posted 01-18-2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically it's not a limited run so they can produce more if they wanted to. There wasn't any certification number in the Saturn V stating this was 0001 out of XXXX models. Only then I can see a problem with re-releasing it as Apollo 11.

But still they invested so much into the mold, the production, they shouldn't stop in just one run.

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posted 01-18-2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SuperKungFu:
But still they invested so much into the mold, the production, they shouldn't stop in just one run.
Earlier in this thread, it was noted that Bandai's own projections were to sell one million of these Saturn V models by Dec. 2010.

I don't know how many were ultimately sold, but either way, it doesn't bode well for another production run.

If their first run was indeed one million units, then they are not likely to produce another million and any smaller second run would simply be "gravy." And if they didn't meet their sales goal, then their motivation to produce even more may be low.

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posted 01-18-2012 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperKungFu   Click Here to Email SuperKungFu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no way they sold a million units in a few short months. I remember this model was released around March of 2010? And around June of the same year it was already hard to find. My guess they had less than 1000 units. I know the Bandai made around 6000 units of the shuttle and it's still around even after a few months.

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posted 01-19-2012 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the Bandai Saturn V, and I find it inconceivable that they could ever have produced, packaged, and brought to market anything approaching a million units of this model within any time frame we're talking about here, let alone sold them. Someone's math is seriously wrong here.

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posted 01-19-2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theclocksrunning     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel very confident that Bandai did not produce one million units. My guess is somewhere between one to two thousand pieces.

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posted 01-19-2012 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Packaging is certainly a reason why it was a "limited" run! It's almost as impressive as the model itself. Doubtful that there are one million people "out there" interested in that model and willing to pay the retail price Bandai asked for. Even in the aviation field, which (presumably) interests more people, I would be surprised to see production runs in the millions- it's usually in the thousands (Corgi's Aviation Archive for example).

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posted 01-19-2012 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too agree that they did not make a million pieces that is because the shops that supplied these models ran out of stock too fast.

I also think that it was all about marketing, as it was a new line for Bandai in Real Space they wanted to test the market. They might have said that they are going to produce a million models but only produced a few thousands to see the markets reaction. I think that it worked fine for them as they managed to sell them within a few weeks.

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posted 01-19-2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alexbaja:
I think that it worked fine for them as they managed to sell them within a few weeks.
Hopefully they made a buck out of their production run. But why not other models (other than the shuttle and Hayabusa)? Competition from Dragon? Too small a market? I would be interested to know why.

alexbaja
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posted 01-19-2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think as I said before Bandai is there for business and I am sure that they know the toy market very well.

I think that now that they have marketed the three models which in actual fact, the first two were marketed for the International market with the Saturn V produced with a limited number and sold fast, then came the shuttle which might have been produced in a larger quantity and which is still found on the market. Finally there was the Hayabusa which was only in my opinion marketed for the Japanese market.

Now that they hopefully know the space model market very well, I think that we might see more models in the future but we have to sit and wait. It is time for the railway now for Bandai.

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posted 01-19-2012 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a lot of people now saving money a long time now for this rocket model, now they have almost got the money together they are sold out. And they are very angry.

I hope Bandai gives this group a chance to buy it for a normal price.


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