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NASA Glenn
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posted 07-18-2008 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NASA Glenn   Click Here to Email NASA Glenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone seen one of FameMaster's 4DVision cutaway shuttle models in person?

Mr Meek
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posted 07-20-2008 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Meek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't help but notice that the flight deck/mid-deck hatch is in the wrong place. Oh well. It still looks neat.

Philip
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posted 07-29-2008 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like the lower deck of the orbiter isn't that detailed after all?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-30-2008 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pictures seem to show that the middeck includes the lockers, the bathroom, the internal airlock and the sleep stations.

The only major thing missing are the seats but you can pretend they are stowed for on-orbit ops.

Mr Meek
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posted 07-30-2008 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr Meek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, who's going to make a 1:72 SRB/ET cutaway to complete the stack? Surely you could scratch-build it out of an existing set.

compucrap
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posted 08-01-2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for compucrap   Click Here to Email compucrap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one of these kits and I have to say the detail is amazing. I had planned on repainting it, but was so impressed with the prepaint job that I decided to hold off on superdetailing one. I plan to superdetail the next two and keep one for myself.

Anyone who's considering getting one should go for it. Took about 45 minutes to assemble (it came about 80% already assembled.)

Jay Chladek
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posted 09-18-2008 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more I see the model the more I like it as they've done more stuff to the TPS then I've seen on other orbiters (such as the AFRSI blankets on the payload bay doors).

Looks like I'll be wanting to save up money for this one. And yes, putting one on a stack is something I was planning to do as well.

compucrap
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posted 09-18-2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for compucrap   Click Here to Email compucrap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the new orbiter details are amazing. It has a fully accurate tile pattern, and a somewhat accurate pattern for the thermal blankets. I toyed around with the idea of repainting it but decided against it.

ilbasso
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posted 02-08-2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got my cutaway shuttle and put it together last weekend. The final assembly (body to wings) was an EXTREMELY tight fit — it's not coming apart again!

I picked up a 1/72 Monogram Shuttle stack a couple of months ago, and I'll be getting onto merging the kits.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 02-22-2009 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice shuttle, but I have build this model combination also, there are few details on this 4D shuttle that are not good, wrong shape main head engines, seats are not in good position in the cockpit. No windows in payload bay...

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-06-2009 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finished assembling the cutaway space shuttle today and of all the different orbiter models released since the start of the program, this is so far my favorite.

I was most concerned about the detailing on the flight- and mid-decks, but even with minor problems (the aforementioned inter-deck hatch location and the lack of aft flight deck windows), it is still superior to some of the custom-built models I have seen.

Here's a couple of photos --

RocketmanRob
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posted 06-06-2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RocketmanRob   Click Here to Email RocketmanRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How was the model assembled? Is it a snap tight style or something that gets glued together like a traditional model?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-06-2009 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a snap-together model toy rather than a model kit (requiring glue). All the parts are pre-painted.

It does take some time to assemble (though judging by the instruction book, it was originally planned to be more complicated; fortunately, it comes partially built out of the box).

apolloprojeckt
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posted 06-07-2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want to see the building progress of my 4D shuttle (October 2008):

Here a slide show. I have a lot of change about the 4D Shuttle. When is was ready I have it sold to someone in the USA.

Henk Boshuijer
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posted 06-07-2009 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henk Boshuijer   Click Here to Email Henk Boshuijer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this model for some time now and I think it is a great model.

It would be nice if someone could make an upgrade kit for the flight deck and middeck section. The models snaps together so it would be easy to replace the flight deck part.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 10-19-2009 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man   Click Here to Email E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yippee! Got mine over the weekend at the California Science Center in Los Angeles. I am working this one for the Columbia Space Center's opening this weekend.

A lot of work ahead. The flight deck needs work and I may drill out the flight deck access hatches and leave the mission specialists' seats out.

Luckily, I have a full size mockup to copy from here in Downey.

lewarren
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posted 10-19-2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lewarren   Click Here to Email lewarren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking for a customization kit with more accurate cockpit seats.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 10-20-2009 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man   Click Here to Email E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It definitely needs the seats. Maybe from a Monogram orbiter? I have opened up the middeck access hatches (missing on kit) and the flight deck windows to the payload bay.

Have to add more nose thrusters, and cut away the incorrect Canada arm grasper (it looks just like the one on the 1974 Orbiter mockup that we have here in Downey).

The payload bay EVA handrails need to be painted yellow, and U.S. Flag and Canadarm decals as well as other markings (ESA/ Spacelab, etc.) from an add on sheet.

But... where is the orbiter bathroom, KU band antennae, payload bay TV cameras and main hatch?

But, that said, it is a beautiful piece of work that is stunning and has some great engines and plumbing, as well as flight, mid-deck, and Spacelab and a great puzzle that only goes together one way, you can't mess this up.

Voodoo1200
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posted 10-23-2009 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo1200   Click Here to Email Voodoo1200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where can I find the external tank and SRBs?

ilbasso
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posted 10-23-2009 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monogram had a 1/72 scale shuttle stack but it has been out of production for a long time. You can still occasionally find it on eBay. I found one on Craigslist quite by chance earlier this year. It's a very large box!

Voodoo1200
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posted 10-24-2009 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo1200   Click Here to Email Voodoo1200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you just post the dimensions of each with a few pics of the attachment points. I was going to make mine from aluminum.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 10-24-2009 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that will be weight very heavy or is it not solid?

Voodoo1200
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posted 10-24-2009 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo1200   Click Here to Email Voodoo1200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to make mine hollow aluminum.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-27-2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How well does it go together? I bought mine today but probably won't be able to unpack and assemble it until the weekend. Any tips?

j0s9
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posted 10-27-2009 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for j0s9   Click Here to Email j0s9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once finished it looks amazing. Be careful with the assembly, you must take everything out, and with it I mean, separate the whole shuttle, at the end you will need to do so in order to fit all the items. Get a scissor for the plastic bags where the pieces are. For the rocket motor system try to go out to in, otherwise you are gonna get confused with all the pieces. When placing the tires place the doors then the tires (front tire doors need some patience). And that is pretty much it, hope you enjoy it. I really did.

perssj
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posted 10-31-2009 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perssj   Click Here to Email perssj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all: The 4D space shuttle is a very nice model and a joy in my collection. Everybody who sees it is very impressed.

But I have a question about the engine compartment.

When trying to assemble it, it seems that one piece is missing, and there are two samples of another piece. Hence the number of pieces is correct but it does not seem to fit correctly.

It looks like item 66 is delivered twice, and item 69 is missing.

Has anybody else had this problem, or is mine a Monday-sample? I've recently contacted the supplier. I hope they can correct it.

j0s9
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posted 10-31-2009 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for j0s9   Click Here to Email j0s9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Item 66 looks very similar to item 62, the difference is the hole on the side for item 65. Try to assemble it looking the figure of the piece on page 12 and not looking the item number.

perssj
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posted 11-02-2009 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perssj   Click Here to Email perssj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sent some photographs to the manufacturer, and they confirmed my problem.

They are going to send me replacement parts. Good service!

jdcupp
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posted 11-03-2009 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jdcupp   Click Here to Email jdcupp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son said, "found a new toy?" I said, "museum quality detailed replica." Had only minor difficulties with assembly, but really enjoyed putting it together. It looks great next to my ISS model (of course, not the same scale). Thanks again!

E2M Lem Man
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posted 11-03-2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man   Click Here to Email E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to suggest to the crafty modelers on the thread that they can add some more detail with RealSpace Models 1/72 decal sheet created a few years back for the Monogram shuttle stack kit. It has crew entry hatch and window decals, as well as SRB/ET markings for those of us that are doing that.

Add some ESA decals and some paint and flags in the cargo bay and you are set with a museum quality model you will love!

TRS
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posted 11-08-2009 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TRS   Click Here to Email TRS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just finished mine - looks great.

Small quibble that I couldn't get the to section of the outer 'frame' to fit properly by the crew compartment so ended up slicing the tabs off and using super strong adhesive.

And a tip - do the engines BEFORE you put the body back onto the underside - that way you can easily get the transparent cover for the engine section on because if is a dog to do in the order they suggest.

CaptSpry
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posted 03-04-2013 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptSpry   Click Here to Email CaptSpry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I just got one of these and I love it. However, I am missing the nose cone, of all things, which is the last piece to go on the shuttle. Does anyone know how to get a replacement for a missing piece?

mike_nz
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posted 03-05-2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mike_nz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try emailing sales@famemaster.com. I had a very successful outcome with the company ordering a replacement part of the 4D Saturn V - so I would think you should have no trouble getting the missing part for your shuttle hopefully. It was delivered promptly too - very good service!

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posted 03-05-2013 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptSpry   Click Here to Email CaptSpry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perfect, thanks for the info! I have the Saturn V also, very nice models and were a lot of fun to put together.

CaptSpry
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posted 03-12-2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptSpry   Click Here to Email CaptSpry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great customer service... they are shipping my missing piece this week.

Planetary
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posted 11-11-2015 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planetary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Resurrecting this old thread....

I am kit bashing a 1/71 full stack using the old Monogram Tank and SRBs along with the FameMaster Shuttle.

I'm at the point where I'm ready to drill the attach points on the underside of the Shuttle to the rest of the near-finished stack so pulled the 4D Shuttle from the 5 year old unopened kit from the garage and discovered much of the body of the shuttle comes already pre-assembled. However, much of the interior is still in pieces in their baggies so I have no choice but to take apart the hull. Problem is, it appears once the body is assembled, it's almost impossible to take it back apart without breaking tabs.

First question is - is this the way this kit has always been packaged (it was new in box sealed, by the way) and second, anyone have pointers on how to gingerly take the body apart to do the interior?

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