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dsenechal
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posted 11-20-2007 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a picture of the lineup of 1/48 scale U.S. manned launch vehicles that I've been building. All are in various stages of completion, from the Mercury Redstone which is essentially complete, to the Saturn V, which has a ways to go.

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posted 11-20-2007 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great lineup and scale comparison, Dave. I marvel at your effort and dedication...

Mike Dixon
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posted 11-20-2007 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terrific stuff ... and by the looks of it, your efforts extended to some ceiling work

dtemple
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posted 11-20-2007 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What materials are you using to build these models? Are they all completely scratch built?

Jay Chladek
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posted 11-21-2007 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice touch having to cut a notch in the ceiling to get the LES on the Saturn V to clear it. That is one MASSIVE collection of rockets you have in the works man!

Tomy1
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posted 11-21-2007 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomy1   Click Here to Email Tomy1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave - great models! Are these actual Marshall Space Flight Center models? Because the bases, especially the small man on the Saturn, sure look like the ones that were produced by MSFC.

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posted 11-21-2007 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the nice words, and the comparison to with the MSFC models. Although I despaired of ever owning an MSFC lineup, they provided the inspiration (specifically, the big lineup of models in the background of Wernher von Braun's portrait) to build my own.

These were (more or less) scratch built, with many bits and pieces scrounged along the way. RealSpace was a great resource for Mercury capsule components, as well as David Weeks' exceptional Saturn IB and Saturn V drawings. Redstone decals were from New Ware, and Saturn decals from Rick Sternbach. Mark Gray and I collaborated on some Saturn V parts, and of course his Spacecraft Films DVDs have been an invaluable resource.

As to the little man on the Saturn IB, he's a copy of an original — eventually, each model will have one.

Gilbert
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posted 11-21-2007 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very impressive!

Henk Boshuijer
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posted 11-21-2007 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henk Boshuijer   Click Here to Email Henk Boshuijer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great models. This makes a nice collection...

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posted 11-21-2007 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave, outstanding! Please share more pictures when you are finished.

I'd love to have a collection like that at 1/144 scale.

Jurg Bolli
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posted 11-21-2007 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, as said above, this is a great lineup.

Philip
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posted 11-21-2007 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like these excellent models (at least the Saturn V) were made with fiber-reinforced polymer or fiberglass in popular naming.

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posted 05-05-2008 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NASA Glenn   Click Here to Email NASA Glenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave, the models are stunning, and I especially like that they are done in the style of the Marshall Graphics and Model Division.

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posted 09-04-2017 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had been making reasonable progress on the 1/48 scale Saturn V shown in the above picture. Then, a couple of years ago, I was faced with an unexpected personal situation that caused me to lose interest in pretty much everything, including working on the big Saturn V model.

A few months ago, after I finished my new book "Footprints 2.0, A Fancy Monkey on a Secret Moon", I finally got up the motivation to resume work on the Saturn, and here it is, as of today. All of the stringers are individually applied, and I've started painting "from the ground up." Lots of details to add to the second and third stages before those are ready to paint.

I'm going to be moving within the next month, but I'm continuing to work on it and it will be the last thing to get packed up.

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posted 09-04-2017 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an updated photo. Paint is a little higher up, and the external conduit attached.

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posted 09-05-2017 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb stuff... ready by the 50th anniversary of Apollo 8?

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posted 09-05-2017 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very impressive. You have done a fantastic job with these models.

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posted 09-05-2017 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NASA Glenn   Click Here to Email NASA Glenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave, I am glad to hear you are back at the models. Would you consider selling duplicates of the 1:48 scale NASA Man? I am in a position where I would really like to purchase a couple.

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posted 09-05-2017 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd be glad to make up a couple for you. Right now, though everything is packed, in boxes, in storage, and it will be at least a few months before I'll even have access to the boxes, and likely longer before I start unpacking. But, when the time comes, you can plan on it.

GACspaceguy
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posted 09-06-2017 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to jump on that wagon as well. I could use some NASA 1/48 figures as well.
Impressive Saturn V!

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posted 09-06-2017 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At that scale, I might be able to build the S-IVB stage and still have a home to live in! Very impressive collection.

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posted 09-06-2017 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks great Dave! I see the interstage I made and the F-1's, shrouds and wings, but the LM shroud looks different, did you use mine and modify it like the F-1's? Once it's done it'll be a twin model to one I built at the Hornet. Who has the molds now?

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posted 09-08-2017 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are a couple of progress photos, showing the Saturn V model resting on its wooden base and supports. The wood and supports, by the way, are exact replicas of the ones made by the NASA Marshall folks back in the 1960s. Michael Keys did an outstanding job of duplicating the supports using pictures and dimensions that I was able to obtain from an actual model, and a local carpenter friend made the pedestal. Just a trial fit at this point, both the wood and supports need to be finished.

In the midst of packing and moving, but will be doing some painting on the model this weekend.

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posted 09-08-2017 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more update, showing a little more paint.

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posted 09-15-2017 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave, this is looking fantastic!!! You have done a great job with all of those stringers. If you don't get those perfect, they stick out like a sore thumb. Glad to have helped you out with a few parts. Can't wait to see the progress!!!

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I'm in awe of this Saturn V build. Such great work!

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posted 11-16-2017 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even with selling the house and living in an extended stay, I've still been able to make decent progress on the Saturn V model. I do the cutting, gluing, shaping, filing, and sanding in the hotel, and the painting in an outbuilding at work.

I have the whole stack set up in my office presently.

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posted 11-16-2017 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks fantastic! Is the LM shroud one of Michael's 3D prints or did you use the one I made, which used the old Revell kit as the master?

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posted 11-17-2017 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Jon.

That is Michael's amazing handiwork. I never had one of your LM shrouds, although I did use an actual Revell SLA as a placeholder for a number of years. By the way, in response to your earlier post, those old molds went to Mark Gray at Spacecraft Films.

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posted 11-22-2017 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I recall correctly, I built a 1/48th Saturn V for the Hornet Museum around late 1999.

Over the years I built about four or five. All the masters were done before CNC and the person doing the milling was a great machinist. The part I liked the most was the interstage thrust structure, he did a good job getting the spacing correct and I carefully applied the correct size styrene strips into the grooves.

The LM shroud used the Revell kit that I had to mold, cast then remold to get it to shrink to the correct size. The rest of the parts including the F-1's were scaled up versions of the 1/96th Revell kit.

I used sheets of evergreen plastic to do the stringers and it came out pretty nice. Its too bad Plastruct doesn't make the 8.25" dia. ABS tube anymore, that worked perfect.

The Apollo CSM and the LM were from the model set that had them finished with the astronauts. It was called "_____ in time" I think, you can still but them on eBay and they were fairly accurate. I made a simple BPC and the escape tower was from the Revell kit.

The parts I made are still around, I think I have a few sets in storage and I sold the molds to Dave and I guess they are now with Mark Gray.

Here's what the big parts look like.

Last year, I got the blueprints from MSFC for their 1:96th Saturn V and SI-B. They are PDF scans of the original prints from long ago. I'm using these to help in the restoration of a 1/96 Saturn V for a friend, but it's neat to see how they did the old models!

I wish I could build another 1:48th Saturn V using my parts but I doubt I will have the time or energy.

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posted 11-27-2017 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted earlier, I'm in the midst of a move, and getting ready to wrap things up here, which includes de-stacking and packing up the 1/48 Saturn V.

I'm at a good stopping point though - here's a progress photo as of this morning. To give you an idea of how far it's come, I'm also attaching a photo from June 2014 as I was starting to apply the individual stringers.

From ten feet away, the model looks to be complete but there are still a lot of details, odds and ends, and permanent markings that remain to be finished. That will have to wait until it gets unpacked in its new location.

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posted 11-27-2017 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful!!

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