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bklyn55
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posted 05-10-2018 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been a lot of discussion here about space-related lucite displays with flown pieces embedded (foil, heatshield, beta cloth, etc.). I don't think I've seen anything about lucites that were contractor made with non-flown promotional-type items inside.

I've started collecting these along with the well known flown lucites such as the ones put out by ASF, Cernan Group, Cosmosphere, etc. I'd like to know what's available out there. As an example, I have the following "non-flown lucites":

  • IBM with IC chip used on Saturn computers and simulators
  • General Dynamics Convair with small Little Joe II
  • Owen Corning Fiberglass with Apollo 15 "patch" and small Lunar Rover
  • GM AC Electronics Division with Apollo 8 insignia
  • Goodyear "First Tire on the Moon" with small tire
If any interest I will post pics of these. Anyone have, or know of, others?

spaced out
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posted 05-11-2018 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mention the Owens Corning fiberglas Apollo 15 lucite, but there are also Apollo 8 and Apollo 11 equivalents, as mentioned on the Beta cloth page of my CrewPatches site.

You see the Apollo 11 version from time to time but the Apollo 8 version is pretty rare.

denali414
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posted 05-11-2018 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be very interested in the pics.

I also collect various other lucites. I have the Owen Corning fiberglass one, the Viking lander Martin Marietta shavings lucite, also have a Port Canaveral space shuttle one and a nice United Space Alliance lucite.

bklyn55
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posted 05-13-2018 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

denali414
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posted 05-13-2018 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really like the Goodyear tire paperweight. I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

Chuckster01
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posted 05-13-2018 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also like the Goodyear lucite and I have never seen that one. Also have an eye out.

thisismills
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posted 05-13-2018 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll add a few of the nicer ones that I've seen.

Contractor Related:

  1. McDonnell-Douglas Titan 34D7 Payload Fairing

  2. Mcdonnell-Douglas Delta 3920 Manufacturing Shavings

  3. Morton-Thiokol Post STS-51L SRB O-ring Static Test

  4. Martin-Marietta Viking Lander Manufacturing Shavings

  5. RCA LM Electrical 'Cordwood' Construction Sample

thisismills
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posted 05-13-2018 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kennedy Space Center Related:
  1. Apollo MSS Fire Protection Nozzle Component

  2. LC-14 Umbilical Cable

  3. LC-19 Pad Section

  4. LM-9 Kapton Removed During 1996 Restoration

thisismills
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posted 05-13-2018 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last one to post for today...
  1. Northrop Paradynamics Space Landing System

bklyn55
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posted 05-14-2018 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! What is LM electrical "cordwood" construction? Never heard of it.

thisismills
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posted 05-14-2018 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the term used for closely packed electrical components used by engineers to save physical space in an assembly of circuits. A play on the old phrase "stacked up like cordwood" (a reference to tightly stacking firewood). This process was used quite a bit in missile guidance systems as well during the Apollo program.

Here is a quick explanation of the technique.

bklyn55
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posted 05-14-2018 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. Twenty years in aerospace and never heard the term.

SpaceAholic
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posted 05-14-2018 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Viking...

Chuckster01
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posted 05-15-2018 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott when does your museum open? You have an AWESOME collection.

denali414
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posted 05-19-2018 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice pyramid shape from McDonnell Douglas:

Lockheed Martin last Titan II launch:

Rockwell International:

bklyn55
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posted 05-23-2018 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great color on this Boeing lucite!

Chuckster01
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posted 06-04-2018 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I would add this Bendix Lucite to the mix.

denali414
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posted 07-23-2018 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Cruise missile chip from General Dynamics:

A Martin Marietta space shuttle:

dtemple
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posted 07-23-2018 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have a piece of umbilical cable used for MA-6. Not sure if this was contractor-made or not.

And this from LM-9, #13 of 25 made.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-23-2018 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mercury-Atlas 6 acrylic strikes me as being modern made, though I could be wrong.

dtemple
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posted 07-24-2018 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be. I got it from collector somewhere in south Texas 20 years ago. I have forgotten his name, unfortunately.

denali414
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posted 08-23-2018 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got this neat lucite, from Heineken:

bklyn55
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posted 08-23-2018 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you're the one who outbid me.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 08-23-2018 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just briefly, let me add a few remarks about some of the acrylics featured here.

I think both the MA-6 Umbilical Cable lucites were provided by my firm, also the gantry relic inside the "Space History" Pad 19 acrylic, if I am not mistaken, came from my acquisitions as well.

The Apollo/Saturn V/MSS fire nozzle component acrylic was provided by Ang Taiani and the Space Shuttle Martin Marietta was actually a "borrowed" acrylic from a commercial space souvenir firm. The aerospace company had included or added their company name at the bottom base of it.

I'll comment on a few others as time permits.

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posted 08-24-2018 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ken for the Info on the lucites!
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Originally posted by bklyn55:
So, you're the one who outbid me.
Ha! Last week was bidding on seven items, got outbid on six, the Heineken the only one I won — so know that feeling only too well.

bklyn55
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posted 08-24-2018 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this mean Heineken is "The Official Beer of the Apollo Moon Landings"?

Robert Pearlman
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"Mission Apollo" was a six-month internal program at Heineken USA involving 75 employees to assess how the brand could better pursue its ambition to become the "leading Upscale beer company" in the United States. The Apollo Program in this sense was being used as a metaphor for the company's own moonshot.

bklyn55
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posted 09-19-2018 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New acquisition. Need Apollo 8 version for the set.

bklyn55
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posted 10-17-2018 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody know what, if any, association Allstate Insurance had with the Apollo program?

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posted 10-17-2018 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intergalactic collision and liability coverage.

bklyn55
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posted 10-18-2018 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonder if the LM has a $500 deductible?

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Just like Liberty Insurance, Allstate offers first time accident forgiveness.

bklyn55
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posted 10-19-2018 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good thing for Apollos 14-17!

bklyn55
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posted 11-27-2018 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice, and large, lucite with interesting subject matter. Never heard of the HGS-1 mission before. Google it for complete story!

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posted 12-29-2018 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NASAgoob   Click Here to Email NASAgoob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are great posts. It’s amazing to see all of these rare items. Thanks for taking time to share.

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posted 01-11-2019 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perkin Elmer Hubble:

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posted 01-11-2019 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may be cheating on this one as it is possibly flown.
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Originally posted by pharoid:

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The back of the lucite states:
This is a segment of a strand of the end effector snare cable, similar to that used on the STS-3 mission, in the grappling and deployment of the Plasma Diagnostic Package Experiment.
It is numbered at the bottom center of the lucite.

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posted 01-12-2019 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biggest (6.5x6.5x7in.) and heaviest (4lb.10oz.) lucite ever seen?


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