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SkyMan1958
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posted 09-06-2011 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some stamps commemorating White's EVA signed by Michael Collins, the 4th human to do an EVA.

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posted 09-12-2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Gemini 4 flown $2.50 gold coin. (ex: McDivitt).

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posted 09-12-2011 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm very nice gold piece. As an aside, I wonder what it's value on the gold market is too?

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posted 09-12-2011 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

It would have two values. Pure bullion value would be ~ 1/8 oz. of gold, e.g. ~ $250. Then there would be the numismatic value of the coin, which would be significantly higher than the bullion value.

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posted 09-12-2011 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And of course the value from history which is way up there. Thanks!

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posted 09-12-2011 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been a numismatist (essentially a coin collector) for ~ 25 years. The coin's value as a piece of space memorabilia is SIGNIFICANTLY more than it's value as a numismatic piece. I particularly like that the piece is associated with the flight that had the first U.S. EVA.

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posted 09-27-2011 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some stamps commemorating White's EVA signed by Gene Cernan, the 3rd human to do an EVA.

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posted 10-04-2011 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flown Apollo 12 Patch (ex: Gordon Cooper).

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posted 10-17-2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently won at auction a few more Skylab items. As a numismatist I was quite happy to win three $1 bills signed by each of the Skylab crews.

I seem to have backed into collecting items about Skylab II. Here's a daily menu of Alan Bean for the flight. The inscription proved to be of interest. It turns out that Charles Bourland worked for NASA for thirty years (beginning in 1969) developing food systems for space.

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posted 10-24-2011 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This copy of "We Seven" is ex: Bill Dana. I'm contemplating whether to send it to John Glenn to add his signature. Part of me says it's inclusion is the right thing to do, and part of me says it's the wrong thing to do. I may just xerox the autograph page and ask Glenn to sign that. What do you folks think I should do?

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posted 10-24-2011 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would leave the book as it is. As tempting as it may be to add John Glenn's signature the book would not then be as it was when Bill Dana owned it. Sadly, there is no way of adding Gus' signature so the grouping would forever be incomplete.

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posted 10-24-2011 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have John Glenn sign it.

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posted 10-24-2011 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one of those whatever is what you wish to have, no right or wrong answer.

Me personally I'd add Glenn. BUT. I'd do my very level best to do it in person, or, make prior arrangement with his staff and send it with tracking and insured. Insured well.

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posted 11-04-2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday I went browsing in a second hand bookstore in the Space/Astronomy section. I found an original (2001) paperback copy of Gene Kranz's book "Failure is Not an Option". It was in good shape (the pages were a little yellowed around the edges, but that was the only "problem"). I looked at the Title page and, lo and behold, it was signed by Kranz. With tax the book cost me $7.52.

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posted 11-14-2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Train token for Peenemunde workers using special train to take them there.

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posted 11-14-2011 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd donate that token to the Holocaust museum.

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posted 11-14-2011 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SpaceAholic:
I'd donate that token to the Holocaust museum.

These weren't slave workers. They were Joe Blow Germans... like people who work for Lockheed.

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posted 11-14-2011 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The difference is that Lockheed employees weren't responsible for the death of 20,000 slave workers.

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posted 11-15-2011 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not and will not make light of the terrible tragedy of the Mittelwerk V-2 Manufacturing Plant and Mittelbau-Dora Slave Camp in the Harz Mountains.

I will point out that Peenemunde was a research and test facility for advanced weapons like the V-1 and V-2. Nazi Germany attempted, but couldn't manufacture at Peenemunde due to the Allied bombing of the site. Peenemunde and Mittelwerk were separate locations with the same intent (to kill the enemy), but were still separate locations with separate tasks.

Any defense related industry worker is responsible for the deaths of people. The same could be said for Lockheed, Boeing and Grumman workers. WW2 B-17 and B-24 related artifacts can be traced to the fact that those planes participated in the bombing of civilians at Dresden.

Let's not pass judgment on another's collections less someone passes judgment on our own.

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posted 11-15-2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not say they were Joe Blow Germans like Lockheed workers. They either worked with, or commanded the slave workers.

I am not saying keeping it in your collection is wrong, but comparing the German worker to a Lockheed worker is. Anyone working in the defense industry may know their weapons may kill people, but Lockheed workers don't have to see starving slaves or know that when the person who cleans up after you doesn't show up, that person is probably dead.

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posted 11-15-2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you Larry, the collector just wanted to present some collector pieces...

I don't know about you, but I possess a few fragments of V2 and similar pieces, but I can not be judged to be for or against someone, it's just history.

If we want to talk about the wars of Nazism, and other, perhaps this is not the right place.

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posted 11-15-2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Charlie16:
If we want to talk about the wars of Nazism, and other, perhaps this is not the right place.
I agree with the above. I thought these boards were about collecting, not about attempting to impose your personal morality on another.

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Considered alone, the suggestion to donate the token to a Holocaust museum (there are several across the nation, if not also around the world) was not inappropriate, but this is not the thread to debate the morality of collecting artifacts from Peenemunde.

We have hosted such discussions in the past and it is far from a black and white issue. In this situation, each person must collect as they feel is appropriate.

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posted 12-13-2011 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a volunteer for the W Foundation at Fleet Week this past October. The Foundation brought four astronauts to the event. Amongst the astronauts was Dick Gordon.

I was able to get a photo of him holding his silver astronaut pin, and had a good time yacking with him throughout the day. Dick was also willing to sign a couple of photos, one of the Intrepid just after it undocked from the Yankee Clipper, and one of GT-11 at launch.

For the GT-11 picture I asked him to write what he was thinking at the time of the photo. I just had the photo framed with a Gemini 11 Fliteline that I own. Here are the two items.

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posted 12-20-2011 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an LM flown utility light from Apollo 9 that I just recently purchased. It's about 3.125" X 2.5" X 2.5". It definitely makes me think of the character Wall-E.

This one I've owned for years...

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posted 12-26-2011 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ex Buzz Aldrin.

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posted 12-26-2011 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sy, very nice pick up on the A-9 light.

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posted 08-01-2012 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't posted anything to this thread for a while, so might as well add another item or two.

Here's a flown LRV001 license plate from Apollo 15.

I'll be framing it and its CoA along with four pictures. Here are two of the four pictures. The second one has already been signed by Scott, and I think I'll add Worden's signature too.

The third image is a variant (it is a mosaic of two image frames) of this picture. At Spacefest IV I had Scott sign it and add comments about where he kept the license plates while he was doing the EVAs, and what he thought about the LRV.

The fourth picture (not shown) is a photo of Scott and myself at Spacefest IV. He is holding the license plate while I am holding pictures two and three.

One item I'm glad to have gotten recently was this signed picture. I had been wanting to get a picture signed by these guys for some time, and to get it on one of my favorite Apollo 11 images makes it even better.

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posted 08-01-2012 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The collection of flight directors autographs is beautiful and unique. Of course the other items in your collection are not chopped liver either!

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posted 08-03-2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb items... and what's the decision on signing the ex-Dana book?

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posted 08-03-2012 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Superb items... and what's the decision on signing the ex-Dana book?

Haven't made it yet. Most likely won't make it until I send the book out, and even at the last second probably will be going back and forth.

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posted 08-08-2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always liked Project Gemini, and think that it is oftentimes overlooked. Given how many "firsts" it racked up that is a gross injustice.

This is a Gemini candy dish that Jerry Hammack used to own. You can see his initials on the plate.

The image on the candy dish is a representation of an image taken by the crew of Gemini 11 during their climb to (at that point in time) a record high apogee. The boost to that height was given by an Agena booster.

Here's another autographed piece in the collection. Shown are four images taken during that climb. You'll see the Indian subcontinent picture in the upper right position.

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posted 11-09-2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the Procedures manual for Gemini 11. (ex: Richard Gordon).

The cover (see quarter for scale).

Docking (with Agena) Procedures.

Experiments log sheet.

Procedures for use of tether in the (First ever) creation of artificial gravity in space.

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Continuation of Gemini 11 Procedures book.

Photography sheet. Note beginning on Frame 8 comments about "Stranger". This is the basis of the false belief that Gemini 11 saw a UFO.

Further comments on "Stranger".

How to pee in space during the Gemini era.

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posted 11-09-2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continuation of Gemini 11 Procedures book.

Annotated map (showing also ground based radio reception stations) showing experiments conducted during revolutions 34 and 35.


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