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Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-14-2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a recorded number of 374 Silver Snoopy pins awarded throughout the Apollo program years, does anyone know if the number is completely accurate (both with NASA and contractor-awarded pins)?

I was able to acquire a Silver Snoopy pin that had been awarded to an Apollo contractor worker during the Apollo era, however, when checking the names of all the pin recipients from NASA's official website, his was not listed.

The same also applied to a shuttle worker presented award with a Silver Snoopy pin given to her during the 1990s, with all the provided paperwork and photos — but once again — her name was not listed nor indicated on the NASA website.

Rocket Chris
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posted 09-25-2014 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does not the manufacturer Robbins gives any details when each pin was produced? All 31 variants could therefore be easily dedicated to the production period and this might give a clue when a pin could be flown. Then it must be easy to get to know how many of each variants have been produced...

I obtained the first one as the orphaned variant XXII.

stsmithva
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posted 01-19-2015 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed an interesting document (eBay 251790363751) that could be considered as indicating that the Silver Snoopys were not carried on Apollo.

This is an announcement of the Silver Snoopy incentive/recognition program, signed in print by Jim Lovell. Nowhere in three lengthy paragraphs does it say that they will be flown in space. I would think that such an interesting detail would have been pointed out if it was planned to occur.

JBoe
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posted 01-19-2015 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve does point out an interesting point. To go along with the flight/non-flight issue, the fact that the lapel pin description doesn't mention metal content and type. Could these pins may have another metallic composition other than sterling silver?

I'm finding out that certain types of items and commemoratives have many versions with different metal composition (bronze, silver, gold, clad, etc). What do you think?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-19-2015 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As illustrated here, with just one known exception, all (authentic) Silver Snoopy award pins have been marked on their back as being sterling silver. (And while the exception is missing the stamped hallmark, it too may be made of sterling silver.)

As for the pamphlet, the focus of the text is on the honor itself, not its physical embodiment (which only gets a one line mention). The Silver Snoopy is not a memento like a flown flag or patch; it is intended as an award, which is why the letter may be more focused on its meaning than its pin.

Its wording also dates it to before the awards began, so it's possible the details of the pin (the "emblem" as the letter simply describes it) may not have yet been decided.

While there are other reasons (previously discussed) to question if most Apollo-era Silver Snoopy pins flew, this pamphlet, as a standalone document, may not add to that distinction. An interesting find, though.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 01-19-2015 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anybody has one of those Snoopy pamphlets, or perhaps a member bought the ebay piece would they consider making a hi re scan of the item?

davidcwagner
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posted 07-08-2017 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone ever seen photos of flight ready packaged Silver Snoopy pins? Probably packed like a package of flown patches or Robbins medallions.

spaced out
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posted 09-29-2017 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recent additions to the extensive shuttle OFK manifests provided on the souvenirsofspace.com site prompted me to look again at the number of Silver Snoopy pins carried per shuttle mission.

One thing that's noteworthy is that only half of the early flights carried any pins at all, and when they did only 50 to 100 examples were flown per mission. Although data for four of the flights is missing it's likely that only around 800 pins were flown from 1981 to 1986.

By contrast, 732 pins were carried on the STS-26 return-to-flight mission in 1988, and 932 on STS-27. Far more pins were carried on the first two missions of 1988 than on all the previous missions combined, and many of the subsequent missions also carried hundreds of pins. Many of the OFKs from 1988 onwards are currently unavailable but if we assume the missing data follows the average we can calculate that the pins from 1981-1986 (around 800) represent only around 4% of the total pins flown on all shuttle missions (estimated at around 19,000).

Interestingly, although the number of pins with known flight numbers and award dates is pretty small — particularly for those early missions — the small sampling we do have seems to support the hypothesis that the silver hallmark used on the backs of the pins transitioned from the full "STERLING" to the abbreviated "STER." between the 24th and 26th flights.

To date, I've identified five distinct varieties of "R" "STERLING" hallmarked pins, three of which had clear proof they were flown on the 1981 to 1986 missions (the other two had no proof of origin). All the "R" "STER." hallmarked pins with known flights identified date from STS-26 (1988) onwards.

I've updated the Silver Snoopy page of my site to mention this hypothesis, and to divide the uppercase Robbins hallmark section into these two distinct categories. It will be interesting to see if any future pins that surface with clear evidence of a pre-1988 flight date support this hypothesis.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-29-2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It makes sense that NASA would want to fly significantly more Silver Snoopy pins beginning with STS-26, given the award's purpose. The agency suddenly had many more people working directly on protecting the crew's safety and that work didn't end with the first return to flight mission.

The Silver Snoopy emerged in the wake of the Apollo 1 fire; it then slowly faded from prominence as the years passed since that first tragedy. It was then resurrected (in force) in the aftermath of the next tragedy, when the focus on safety became paramount again.


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