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Larry McGlynn
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posted 04-26-2017 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Philip:
...until we get an update with a replacement table
I have a complete list of Omega serial numbers from GT-5 to ASTP.

On edit: The serial numbers on all the Speedys from GT-5 to ASTP are available. There are three missing watches. Aldrin #43 (lost by Aldrin; never recovered by NASA), Eisele #34 (stolen from a display in Ecuador in 1989; never recovered by NASA) and Roosa #71 (never recovered by NASA).

All the rest were accounted for in 1976.

We've made it to London to celebrate the Omega Speedmaster 60th Anniversary...
And I was in that London Boutique two weeks ago.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 04-26-2017 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should have called Larry!

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posted 04-27-2017 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Celebrating 60 years of the Speedmaster with George Clooney and Buzz Aldrin

Surrounded by a universe of light and sound, OMEGA has celebrated the 60th anniversary of its iconic Speedmaster watch with a star-filled event in London. George Clooney and Buzz Aldrin were the guests of honour at the "Lost in Space" evening, a theme which paid tribute to the Speedmaster's unrivalled legacy in space exploration.

The night was hosted by Professor Brian Cox at London's Tate Modern which was transformed to give guests a truly sensory experience. Inside, the venue was given a sleek and futuristic touch with a centrepiece of 60 important Speedmaster models from 1957 to 2017.

Raynald Aeschlimann, the President and CEO of OMEGA, was the first on stage and welcomed guests to the event with his thoughts about the brand's most well-known chronograph.

"The Speedmaster is one of the most, if not the most, iconic chronographs in the world. Not only for OMEGA, but for the many men and women who have worn and trusted it. Even after 60 years, its power and charisma has not diminished. We're so proud to have an event of this scale and to share it with the Speedmaster's biggest fans."

The OMEGA Speedmaster has enjoyed a long and varied history. Most famously, as part of Apollo 11 in 1969, Buzz Aldrin stepped onto the lunar surface and, in that moment, the OMEGA Speedmaster became the first watch ever worn on the moon.

48 years later, Buzz appeared spectacularly in a spacesuit on OMEGA's stage. After a great applause, he later recounted his memories of his time in space.

"We weren't scared. More so, we were proud to have been able to represent everyone and to have the skills and the knowledge to carry out something that was very meaningful to us as astronauts, of course, but also to so many other people."

Standing alongside Buzz was the renowned actor George Clooney, who is not only a dedicated Speedmaster follower, but also a lifelong fan of space exploration. Since childhood, the Apollo missions and the OMEGA Speedmaster have been amongst his most treasured memories.

"Speedmasters were a big part of my growing up. My uncle and my father, we all had them because it was such a big part of the moon landing. And it was huge in our lives. My father gave me, as my graduation present, a Speedmaster. There's every reason to love them because they're elegant watches. But I also love them because of the history."

When asked about his memories of the moon landings, George gave a very personal tribute to Buzz. "It mattered to all of us. What you did mattered to all of us and I can't thank you enough for your courage, your leadership and everything you've done."

It has been more than 50 years that the OMEGA Speedmaster has been relied upon as an essential tool in space. In 1965, the watch was officially tested and qualified by NASA for all manned space missions. The man in charge of that process, ex-engineer James Ragan, was also at the event in London and spoke to guests about the Speedmaster's reputation within NASA.

"Of all the watches we tested in 1965, the Speedmaster was the only one that passed all the tests. The others got eliminated in the very first test. So it has a very good reputation with NASA and even today is still used in space. That says a lot about the watch."

The Speedmaster's impact has been truly far-reaching. Amongst the many VIP fans at the London event were American actress Liv Tyler; British actress Gemma Arterton and British singer Ellie Goulding.

The "Lost in Space" event concluded with a performance by ESKA, who gave a rousing rendition of David Bowie's classic song Space Oddity. It was a wonderful way to complete a night of pure entertainment and imagination.

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The San Antonio Omega Boutique had a great Speedmaster 60th Anniversary event this week.

I provided a couple of display items, including the crew signed Saturn V model and Apollo 13 couch fragment in lucite (image).

They went all out with themed food and drink ("Tang-tini, sir?"). Plus, the catering staff wore blue Space Camp flight suits. I believe we had a few more fashion watch folks than space watch folks, compared to last year's event. Still, a great party with many special edition Speedmasters!

They gave out some enjoyable Apollo themed promotionals, and noted Omega spokesman Lt. Gen. Tom Stafford offered a nice video message.

Philip
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posted 06-06-2017 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Omega boutique in Vienna, Austria has a renewed mini-museum and is certainly worth a visit.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-21-2017 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omega video
George Clooney was just a boy when his hero Buzz Aldrin walked on the moon. Nearly 50 years later, the two legends of space and screen finally met. This is the story.

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posted 07-21-2017 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kind of clueless on either Omega or Clooney's part to end that skit with "C'mon Buzz. Let me buy you a drink..."

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posted 10-03-2017 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This #SpeedyTuesday 3rd October marks the 55th anniversary of the first Omega Speedmaster chronograph in space as Wally Schirra wore his personal CK2998-4 onboard Sigma 7 in 1962.

Some rare images at MoonwatchUniverse.

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Omega reveals 'Dark Side of the Moon' chronograph for Apollo 8 50th

The 50th anniversary of the first mission to fly humans to the moon has inspired the design of a new timepiece from the watchmaker that made the chronographs worn by the crew.

NASA's Apollo 8 astronauts, Frank Borman, Jim Lovell and Bill Anders, were the first to view the far side, or colloquially, "dark side" of Earth's natural satellite while orbiting the moon in December 1968. Half a century later, Omega has brought into view the Speedmaster "Dark Side of the Moon" Apollo 8 chronograph.

Philip
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posted 03-22-2018 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly not my cup of tea... might appeal to the younger generation but then again "de gustibus non est disputandum."

Larry McGlynn
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posted 03-22-2018 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know my taste is in my mouth, but I actually like this watch. I am a fan of the skeleton dial with the imprint of the lunar face on it.

I wonder if this is a some form of trial for the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary Speedmaster?

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I certainly hope not. I feel the 50th Anniversary model should obviously be special but needs to maintain the "Professional" appeal.

I think the 40th model was excellent, still a Speedmaster but with a hint of "this is special." The red tipped second hand, single silver sundial. All very nice. Backed off with a stunning caseback.

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posted 03-22-2018 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the look of the Apollo 8 model, too.

The only tweak I would have made was to use blue instead of yellow hands as a nod to "Earthrise."

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Easily remedied with a case opener and a bottle of blue paint, Robert.

Any idea what the MSRP will be? I'd guess around $13K.

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The Apollo 8 Speedmaster is $9,750. (Omega now lists its prices and sells directly through its website, though this model will not be for sale until August.)

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quote:
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...use blue instead of yellow hands as a nod to "Earthrise."
This would have looked awesome. I like the design but that yellow is really off-putting. Earthrise was one of the lasting legacies of the mission, and it is sadly left unrepresented in this new interpretation of the Speedmaster.

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posted 03-23-2018 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Apollo 8 being my favorite mission along with being a Christmas eve 1968 baby I was really hoping for something special for the 50th anniversary piece but I feel underwhelmed by this watch.

To Omega's credit the skeleton dial is well executed and live images of the dial look much better than these photos. The use of the yellow hands is a total mystery to me and makes this watch too similar to the recently released Omega Porsche watch. As Robert said, a blue chronograph hand would have been a better choice or maybe even red which is traditionally linked to chronograph hands. Blue or red would have been a nice nod to the mission patch colors.

While it's nice they used the hand wound movement to reduce the thickness of the watch the spacing of the sub dials is off because of the larger ceramic case. The 1861 movement and the 40mm case of the traditional Speedmaster is really what makes the watch so aesthetically pleasing to the eye. This larger case with the odd second sub dial throws the proportions off to my eye. Lastly, with all the spare space around the case back I'm put off by the DEC abbreviation and not December in full.

It's interesting that it is not a limited production piece but I think the design and cost with limit the number produced on its own. At almost $10K I would never be a buyer for this watch but I'm really not the target audience. In that price range I'm looking for a mint pre-moon Speedmaster.

Here's hoping the Apollo 11th 50th hits the mark next year.

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quote:
Originally posted by TLIGuy:
In that price range I'm looking for a mint pre-moon Speedmaster.
Yup.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 03-23-2018 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, you spoiled it for me. I already have a pre-moon Speedy circa 1967. I used to like the new Apollo 8 watch.

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Through this thread I've read about the failures of the Rolex and Longines models during the High Temperature Test of flight qualification, the experiences of Dave Scott on Apollo 15 and Charlie Duke on Apollo 16, and the concerns of Jim Ragan regarding the Speedmaster's Hesalite Crystal and its susceptibility to high temperature and thermal cycling.

Given everything that is now known about the temperature extremes on EVAs and the lunar surface in particular, and the vibrations associated with launch and entry and lunar rover vehicle travel, does anyone know if the criteria limits for flight qualification of the Speedmaster have evolved over the years and become more stringent to reflect operational reality, or are they still the original test limits?

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posted 07-06-2018 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good question...

The Speedmaster chronograph came standard with an acrylic polymer hesalite (plexiglass) doomed glass that gave a wide opening on the dial. Although prone to scratches, it was shatterproof, an advantage for use in a micro-gravity.

During the Alaska Project (code name for the research to design and produce the ultimate space watch) Omega tested the resistance of half a dozen different glasses and decided to use a raised bezel for the Alaska II project in 1972.

Due to cancellation of the Apollo 18 to 20 missions, the Alaska Project timepieces had no direct use for NASA but the Russians were interested and flew ex-Alaska II timepieces on the Salyut 6 space station. BIS Spaceflight magazine August 2018 issue has an article on the 40th anniversary of the EVA by the Soyuz 29 crew during which these ex-Alaska II Speedmaster chronographs in their distinctive red-colored outer cases were used.

Eventually the Alaska Project was resumed, leading to a radial dial Speedmaster used aboard STS-2 through at least STS-53, and the X-33 Speedmaster in 1998.

For photos see MoonwatchUniverse.

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Just wanted to point out the latest SpeedyTuesday Speedmaster, which comes with classic features such as a black dial with applied logo, 1960s crown and DON bezel. If this hints for the look of the 2019 limited edition 50 years Apollo 11 Speedmaster chronograph, Omega watches surely are on the right track!

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OMEGA has announced that the famous 321 caliber/movement used for the iconic Speedmaster chronograph during the Apollo era is making a comeback!
3... 2... 1... We have lift-off!

OMEGA reintroduces the iconic Calibre 321

If you ask most watch fans to name a famous movement they'd like to see reborn, you're bound to hear them mention the OMEGA Calibre 321. This robust and elegant chronograph movement has been a favourite since the 1940s and is still highly sought-after by watch collectors around the world. Now, more than 50 years after the last Calibre 321 was produced, OMEGA is bringing the iconic movement back.

Known for its beautifully intricate design, the original Calibre 321 earned a notable place in history. It was used in a variety of models including the Speedmaster ST 105.003 (the model first tested and qualified by NASA and worn by astronaut Ed White during the first American spacewalk) and the Speedmaster ST 105.012 (the first watch worn on the moon).

Reintroducing a movement with such an important reputation must therefore be done with the utmost exactness. For the Calibre 321 project, OMEGA utilised a dedicated team of experts who worked efficiently over two years and in total secrecy to bring the movement to life. The small group was composed of researchers, developers and historians, as well as the finest craftsmen and experienced watchmakers.

Using the 2nd generation Calibre 321 as a reference, the OMEGA team compiled extensive historical research and original plans to reconstruct the movement as accurately as possible. Going even further, they also used digital scanning technology to see inside the true Speedmaster ST 105.003 timepiece that astronaut Eugene "Gene" Cernan wore on the moon during the Apollo 17 mission in 1972.

As a result, even the most unique and iconic parts of the Calibre 321 have been reborn in respect to their authentic specifications. The new movements will now go into production at OMEGA's HQ site in Bienne. Uniquely, all aspects of creation will be undertaken within a dedicated Calibre 321 workshop. For each movement, the assembly, as well as the watch head and bracelet assembly will be performed by the same watchmaker. Watch fans can expect more developments and news in the coming months.

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From Fratellowatches which I assume comes from Omega.
This movement will not be used in a limited edition watch, but there will be a limitation in production for the reasons stated above. Omega revealed that there will be something in gold, for sure. Also, this movement will not be used in any of the upcoming Apollo 11 Limited Edition models in 2019.

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One of those "reasons mentioned above" was the fact that these cal 321 movements will be hand assembled by a single watchmaker at Omega.

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Omega will not be at Baselworld 2019 but hold its own fair and event in Zurich between 26 and 30 March 2019...


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