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rsynge
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posted 06-22-2004 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rsynge   Click Here to Email rsynge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just finished reading "Light this Candle"
Very well written and an enlightening biography of Alan Shepard who was clearly SOME guy!
I hadn't realised his wife had dies very shortly after him - how sad.
I'd recommend the book to anyone who wants to learn more about Shepard and especially his early career.

Voodoo
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posted 06-23-2004 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voodoo   Click Here to Email Voodoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found the book a good read, and a very informative profile about a private person who didn't seem to let a lot of himself out.

It's interesting that a lot of stuff in the first chapter of "The Right Stuff" (about Naval Aviators, "Flat hatting", etc.) almost seems to have been written directly from Shephards experiences, based on what's desribed in "Light This Candle". I seem to recall that Shephard denied ever being interviewed by Wolfe, but the source could just have easily been Pete Conrad, who seems to have supplied most of the material in the beginning of the book.

Well worth reading.

Martin

dss65
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posted 07-28-2004 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dss65   Click Here to Email dss65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My daughters gave me this book for Father's Day. GOOD KIDS! I just finished reading it today. (There were other things on my list ahead of it.) This is an excellent book that I'm sure the vast majority of book readers from cS will deeply appreciate. My congratulations to author Neal Thompson for an incredible account of an enigmatic man that played no small role in shaping the history of the American space program. Readers will find themselves experiencing a whole array of emotions about Big Al, but in the end I pretty much guarantee you that you'll be touched. I certainly was. Thank you, Mr. Thompson. (And thank you, kids.) Don't miss this one.

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Don

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Jurg Bolli
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posted 07-30-2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also finished it yesterday, and I agree that it is well written and very interesting. I found a few very annoying errors, though:

1. Thompson writes a number of times about the "dark" side of the moon, there is no such thing, just the "far" side.

2., and much worse: he states on page 190 or so that "the gravity of the earth fizzles out once you are a few hundred miles up" (this is not a quote but a paraphrase). In fact gravity NEVER stops, it is the GRAVITATIONAL pull of the earth that makes the moon go around the earth. The same mistake is present in another chapter but I forgot where.

Overall a very enjoyable book, but let's not ignore physics!
Jurg

dss65
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posted 07-30-2004 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dss65   Click Here to Email dss65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed a few of those, too, Jurg. They surprised me a little bit in what otherwise struck me as being such a well researched, written, and proofread book. Ultimately (for me), these little thorns did not detract significantly from the excellent experience that I had reading it. I think it's one of the best.

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Don

Dwayne Day
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posted 08-01-2004 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dwayne Day   Click Here to Email Dwayne Day     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read it, but I've read a number of comments about significant errors in the book. A friend of mine who is normally good at spotting these things only found a few, such as one statement that the Saturn V was started after the Apollo 1 fire or something like that. But I've read other people's posts where they compiled lists of mistakes. You might check the Amazon.com reviews to see if people list them there.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-01-2004 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were errors, and the author, Neal Thompson, is aware of that fact, though I did not find they detracted greatly from the book. Perhaps that is because I wasn't reading it with the intention of learning anything new about the space program, but rather about the man himself. I found that some of the insights about the 'icy commander' gleamed from the many interviews Thompson conducted were invaluable to painting a more complete picture of Shepard.

The greatest compliment I can pay the book and its author is that after reading "Light This Candle", I found that I appreciated the brief encounter I had with Shepard in 1997 even more than I did before.

Jurg Bolli
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posted 08-02-2004 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with everybody, it is a fine and worthwile book. I enjoyed it greatly, Shepard emerges as a real person and not just an astronaut.
Another error that came to mind over the weekend: the book says that on the way to the moon the astros could see only part of the earth since "part of the earth was hidden in the shadow of the moon". It is not the shadow of the moon that makes the earth appear half full but rather the position of the observer in relation to the earth and the sun (the same thing applies to the moon when we see it half full). When the shadow of the moon does hit the earth it is extremely small, and the folks in the shadow experience a solar eclipse.
Whoever proofread the book should have caught this, IMO. I didn't find any typos like in so many other books.
Again, I liked the book very much.
Jurg

Dwayne Day
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posted 08-02-2004 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dwayne Day   Click Here to Email Dwayne Day     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"There were errors, and the author, Neal Thompson, is aware of that fact, though I did not find they detracted greatly from the book."

As a general principle, this is entirely fair. Everybody makes mistakes, and it is hard to catch all of your own mistakes. However, I think that such errors are important in at least two cases: first, if they are extensive. If there are a lot of errors it darkly implies things about the author--either that he is clueless or sloppy or both. And I think that everyone will admit that a lot of errors simply make it harder to read a book, because you get tired of the mess.

Second, such errors are important if the main themes of the book, or the argument, rely upon the erroneous information. If an author says that something happened on July 2 instead of July 12, that is a minor error. But if the author says that it happened on July 2 and as a result, something else happened on July 8, then that is a major error, because the author has created a cause and effect relationship that was impossible.

"Perhaps that is because I wasn't reading it with the intention of learning anything new about the space program, but rather about the man himself."

This is also fair. However, one thing that we have to keep in mind is that sometimes this will be someone's first exposure to the subject, and first exposures can create erroneous impressions that last forever. A colleague and I have referred to this as historical pollution, or in its more extreme form, historical vandalism.

The problem with extreme sloppiness or unprofessionalism by a historian is that other people then have to clean up after their mess. A couple of years ago there was that documentary going around about cosmonauts who flew before Yuri Gagarin. Sloppy and unsupported allegations with no truth to them. But people saw it and some believe it. As a result, every so often somebody will ask a colleague of mine about it--"What about those cosmonauts who got killed in missions before Yuri Gagarin?" He then has to spend time fixing a misconception that an irresponsible documentarian created.

"The greatest compliment I can pay the book and its author is that after reading "Light This Candle", I found that I appreciated the brief encounter I had with Shepard in 1997 even more than I did before."

I briefly met him during a book-signing around the same time. He came across as a jerk, which was entirely consistent with his reputation, and what other people who met him told me. Now maybe he was tired, or maybe it was a bad day, or maybe it was grueling to have to deal with so many fanboys on a book tour. But he was still a jerk. Alan Bean, on the other hand, came across as the nicest guy in the world.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-02-2004 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dwayne, I agree with 99% of what you responded. In my opinion, I did not find the errors in "Light This Candle" to be so egregious or numerous as to set it apart from other books written by third-parties to the space program, hence my willingness to look past them.

That said, its my understanding that the errors that have been identified will be corrected in the softcover edition.

There are authors that set out to (1) tell about history as they perceive it happened, (2) tell about history as they believe it happened, (3) tell about history based on what actually happened, and (4) tell about history based on what they believe should have happened. I would place Candle somewhere between (2) and (3), simply because (by his own admission) Thompson was never there to witness what he writes himself. When balancing one's concern over the historical implications of a new book, I am generally much more concerned about categories (1) and (4) -- both of which we have (unfortunately) seen appear as biographies and memoirs in recent years by space program personnel.

On your reflection of meeting Shepard, the "icy commander" didn't earn that nickname because of his love of skiing.

Dwayne Day
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posted 08-02-2004 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dwayne Day   Click Here to Email Dwayne Day     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would quibble with your separation of authors into those categories. It is common for people writing memoirs to actually get the history wrong, even though they were there. This is why a memoirist should team up with a professional, preferably not only someone who can write, but someone who also knows the subject and knows how to do research on the subject.

Recently an Air Force magazine ran an account of the early reconnaissance satellite program by someone who claimed to have been involved with it. I was instantly suspicious, as I had never heard of the guy before. He apparently played a minor role, but got a lot of the basic facts wrong. A complete mess.

A memoirist tries to tell the story as he experienced it. But we should recognize that this is like following a football game entirely through binoculars--you may get a good picture of what is going on in a small part of the field, but you are going to miss some very important details, and also possibly miss the big picture. I once interviewed a guy who talked about the cancellation of the MOL program in 1969. He was pretty high up in the program and he said that the cancellation was a complete surprise to everybody. But I found evidence that it had nearly been canceled the year before, and its cancellation had been recommended by several committees over the previous few years. So it was a surprise to him, but it was not a surprise to everybody.

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