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Philip
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posted 09-29-2003 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you all think about the new "look and feel" of the monthly magazine Spaceflight from the British Interplanetary Society (BIS)?

It comes just at the moment the BIS has a new president! Congratulations to him! I'm sure he reads this forum!

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posted 09-29-2003 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rex Hall   Click Here to Email Rex Hall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good evening, I do read collectSPACE. Robert does a great job. I hope members of BIS are enjoying the articles in past, present and future issues of Spaceflight.

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posted 09-30-2003 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALAIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I like Spaceflight monthly magazine's new feel, it seems they used another type of glossy paper?

I also very much appreciated the new look which started with the new editor Mr. Simpson.

Excellent monthly magazine, for a decent price, which much of our American friends still didn't discover!

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posted 10-09-2003 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, past issues are available at for $6.00 from the BIS HQ in London...

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posted 11-12-2003 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Decemer's Spaceflight is a superb issue with amazing photos of an Apollo Vacuum Chamber test held in June 1968 with Engle, Kerwin and Brand. Also photos of John Bull in white Apollo spacesuit during the LTA-8 tests, great stuff by Ed Hengeveld! Furthermore photos of the taikonaut Yang Liwei and the Max Q band and the ceremony held at Hall of Fame last June!

Best regards!

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posted 11-13-2003 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and don't forget a very nice article about politicians in space by ...Philip Corneille.

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posted 12-12-2003 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you all see the cover of Spaceflight for January 2004? (Looks like a Mars special! I hope the first in a series of 2 or 3... pre-landing, landing, post-landing results.)

Are you all as excited as I'm about the upcoming Mars exploration events?

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Originally posted by Philip:
Decemer's Spaceflight is a superb issue with amazing photos of an Apollo Vacuum Chamber test held in June 1968 with Engle, Kerwin and Brand.
Yours truly and a contributor to this site also has a page, reporting about the commemoration of Sigmund Jähn's flight as the first German cosmonaut.

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I just received a sample copy of Spaceflight and would highly recommend it to any space buff. Rex sent me a sample and I plan to join the BIS and obtain back issues.

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posted 12-14-2003 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spaceflight magazine always has been and will continue to be for sure under Rex's stewardship, an outstanding publication.

My only concern is one which crops up from time to time. That is the preferred shipping medium. Since switching to plastic I seem to have amassed an increasing number of dinged and dog eared copies.

Regards,

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posted 12-17-2003 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick, I never had a problem with that kind of packing, guess it also depends on the Postman's handling...

I can surely say that Spaceflight magazine got better and better every year and I really like the new "look and feel" of it!

(My oldest issue is December 1969 and already in that one they stated that Spaceflight would increase in number of pages with larger illustrations.)

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posted 01-06-2004 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chinese Man in Space mission report and Dr. Neil Armstrong on Apollo 11 are the main items in Spaceflight's February 2004 issue.

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Thanks Philip - this is the first indication I have had that my Armstrong story made the cover!

The subtitle on the front is a little misleading, as Armstrong doesn't talk about his moonwalk at all in the article. Instead, he discusses his place in 100 years of manned powered flight - including his Gemini 8 mission, and ending with a vivid description of leaving Earth orbit and heading to the Moon on Apollo 11. If you heard that Armstrong is not very poetic and inspiring when describing the Apollo 11 mission, prepare to be surprised!

The article covers a wonderful talk he gave in Bakersfield, California a few months ago. In it, you'll see just how much he respects and admires the pioneering aviators who came before him. A photo of Armstrong taken at the event appeared on the 'Sightings' page for a while, and appears again in the magazine.

Hope you enjoy reading it - and I am as ever always interested in what people think of these articles.

Thanks,

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posted 01-06-2004 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting idea Francis... always enjoyed your (long) articles!

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Interesting to see that they already have the title page of their February issue online on January 9th. Do any of you know when it will be for sale in the newsstands?

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Hello Kirsten, the cover of Spaceflight is online around the 10th of the previous month. It becomes available around the 24th of the month.

Best regards and enjoy reading SpaceFlight!

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posted 01-10-2004 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my copy of Febuary's issue yesterday. Great article Francis!

Adam

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Thanks, Adam, glad to hear you liked it. It was certainly great to meet him.

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Really enjoyed the Armstrong article, Francis!

And congratualations to Rex Hall MBE!

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Thanks Craig! I am hoping that those who went to Dublin to hear him speak will read it too, as it sounds like he covered many of the same points in his talk, and the two events were only a few weeks apart.

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posted 01-23-2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb article Francis! "Neil Armstrong and a Century of Adventure"...superb reading and great photos (also the one of you with Dr. Armstrong at the Bakersfield Business conference).

Don't know if Dwayne Day is on this forum but I also appreciated his article on "US Air Force Ferret Satellites of the Cold War". Where did he get those super Agena launch photos?

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Just wanted to congratulate both Dwayne Day and Asif Siddiqi for their superb 14-pages article on an important aspect of space history: "The Moon in the Crosshairs – CIA Intelligence on the Soviet Manned Lunar Programme" in Spaceflight's March 2004 issue.

Superb article with great photos of the Soviet N-1 launch vehicle!

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Regarding Asif and cent article on intelligence monitoring of the Soviet manned lunar program, many thanks. We thought that the story was a fascinating one.

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Excellent work Dwayne... you must have great sources (thanks for the extensive references listed every time at the end of each article!).

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Excellent article.

The picture of the first N-1 launch looks like a grab from a video, is the footage available to download anywhere?

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Don't know if Dwayne Day is on this forum but I also appreciated his article on "US Air Force Ferret Satellites of the Cold War"... where did he get those super Agena launch photos?

I did not read this forum, but Richard Jackson told me about your comments.

The photographs came from a colleague of mine who has amassed a collection of Thor vehicle photos. These are all official USAF photos, long thought lost. In fact, because the photos were so interesting and revealing (all those different launch shrouds), I decided to write an article around them.

Fortunately, I also had quite a bit of additional information to add, such as the conflict between the NSA and the CIA over control of signals intelligence satellites in the early 1960s. That is new information.

I actually have in the works a follow-up article on ferret satellites which also includes some new photographs that have either been ignored or not published before. For instance, I have some photos of an airbrushed Titan launch vehicle. Somebody clumsily tried to cover over the payload shroud. This was negated by the fact that the vehicle contractor released the original photo. I also have an artist conception of a satellite derived from the subsatellite ferrets that was long ignored.

I generally try to stay away from what I consider more marginal research techniques like studying orbital inclinations or photographs. There was a time (pre 1995) when these ephemera were the only means to decipher some classified military programs. But now such a great deal of information has been declassified that a historian should tap into the rich documentary and oral history resources on these programs. There is no need to spend much time looking at obscure orbital data when you can go straight to documentary sources.

Unfortunately, for some programs, like the ferrets, there is really little info out there. (I should add, however, that I have long believed that there are many more resources on some of these programs than previous authors have found. It simply requires somebody to go through archives looking for this material.)

In my follow-up article, I do have some new information culled from a book of memoirs of satellite reconnaissance pioneers and also a few document declassifications. The info concerns some ferret satellite programs in the 1960s. For instance, the intelligence community started a crash development program in 1966 to build a satellite to detect Soviet anti-ballistic missile radars.

I also have an article in the April issue concerning the flight of Discoverer 13. I was not attempting to commit an act of scholarship with that one. I simply had a lot of good photographs and wrote an article around them. I will follow that with a shorter article about Discoverer 14 and then another one about propulsion stages for reconnaissance satellites.

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Regarding the N-1 article. The images of the vehicle came from Asif. I am sure that there are video clips on the web somewhere, but I don't know where.

We had additional illustrations that we could not run in the article. Most of them are CIA line drawings of the launch pads under construction. We may try to run them in the future.

As for the comment about sources--I have found that it is very important in research to build up a network and share information with that network. You have to keep that network energized by providing information to your colleagues. Then, when some other researcher finds something of interest to you, they will share it. Some of the material in the article is a result of somebody I know finding the info and passing it on to me.

But I have long believed that excellent methods lead to excellent sources. In other words, if you look hard and use a methodical approach, you will find good information. You also have to be careful and skeptical about sources, looking for corroboration.

For instance, Sayre Stevens, who I interviewed for part 2, told me that he thought that his 1964 report on the Soviet lunar program (he thought there was no evidence of it) was suppressed because a senior CIA official did not want to embarrass NASA Administrator James Webb. This was a great story ("Intelligence information suppressed for political reasons!"). But I had to be sure.

I called that senior official and asked him about this. He did not remember the specific incident, but he provided more context. He said that considering the importance of the subject and how it could have affected national policy, he probably wanted to be very sure that the information was correct. It would be bad to make a conclusion about the Soviet lunar program without good evidence. So I had to back down from my initial assumption and provide more nuance.

My colleague, Asif, has excellent sources. He has done quite a bit of research in Russian archives.

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The April issue of Spaceflight arrived at my door yesterday (I get it early because I have an article in there--usually it doesn't arrive in the US until a month or so later).

Although I have not read much of it, the one thing that struck me is the quality of the photos. Spaceflight has often had a problem with color photos coming out faded or dull. But the photos in this issue are great. Vivid color.

More later.

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Dwayne, congrats on another great article in the April issue on "Corona Reconnaissance Satellite Programme in Early 1960s"! Ever thought about putting articles together in a book on the subject? Super (rare) US Air Force launcher photographs!

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Dwayne, congrats on another great article in the April issue on "Corona Reconnaissance Satellite Programme in Early 1960s"!
Thank you, that is most kind.

As I noted in a previous post, this article was not intended to be an act of scholarship. I had a lot of good photos and wanted to wrap an article around them.

I have acquired some nice photos from a couple of sources. One is a researcher who has gained access to a massive amount of historical rocket photos. He has let me use his material. In addition, I went through the photo collection at the National Archives and scanned a lot of material. (They have a lot of nice photo transparencies as well, but you cannot scan them and have to get them copied at around $25 apiece. That's not cheap.)

I should also add that the photos of the engineers at the party came from Jim Plummer. He very generously allowed us to use them in our CORONA book. I think they're great because they show the people behind the machines.

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Ever thought about putting articles together in a book on the subject?
I have two books in the works, but they are still in infant stage. One of them is a popular history of satellite reconnaissance during the Cold War. Unfortunately, I want to write a lot about the post-CORONA systems that have not been declassified. I want to get the full story of these and cannot do that at this time.

I have thought about trying to do a more encyclopedic book about satellite reconnaissance, with a chapter on each major program: Samos E-1 and E-2, Samos E-5, ARGON, LANYARD, a couple of chapters on CORONA, etc. That would have to go toward a more specialty press, like Apogee.

The problem is that I have lots of good ideas and only a finite amount of time. As I posted earlier, I currently have several articles lined up in Spaceflight (Discoverer 14, First Lunar Outpost, and reconsat propulsion stages). I've also got something scheduled for the Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence and something else scheduled for Quest. And I have about a dozen more sitting on my hard drive, both for Spaceflight and academic publication. Recently I have begun publishing articles about civilian space on-line at www.thespacereview.com.

My philosophy has long been that it's better to publish earlier and get information out into circulation than to wait years before producing a book. There's a value to letting people see the material so that they can discuss it. And I can use the published articles to get people to talk.. But I should probably devote more time to the books.

Once again, I'm glad you enjoyed the article. I tried to write it in a more popular, less scholarly style. There are a lot of interesting stories about the early days of the Discoverer program that I would like to see get more publicity.

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Please do keep us posted whenever those books will become available!

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No article(s) yet on the lost BEAGLE 2 spacecraft in BIS monthly Spaceflight?

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Hi Rex,

Since you read this forum on collectSPACE, I would just like to mention I joined in January 2004, and have very much enjoyed all the info, great stories, and recently about Michael Foale in the ISS, and how life in space, all the everyday tasks he is doing. Shall have to find some binders later to store them all. I have framed my membership paper. It is on the wall together with astronauts autographs.

from Brenda

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I am glad you are enjoying being a member of the Society. We do try very hard to ensure there is a good mix of current news, historical articles as well activities in orbit. It is sometimes very difficult to achieve especially with so much news being on the web.

Recently the articles by Dwayne Day have been very good.

We will soon have an issue of Space Chronicle coming out with major articles on the Soviet space programme presented at various Soviet symposiums. Also the first issue of our new education magazine Voyager will appear in the summer. A busy time.

I am so please that more people are joining the BIS and helping to support us to promote the place of space travel.

Looking forward to meeting you soon.

Have a good week.
Rex

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I have been an avid fan of "Spaceflight" magazine for many years now, and have all my copies from way back when. Every issue comes as a nice surprise each month, regular as clockwork, to my home in Australia, and I am in awe of Rex and the gang at the BIS for not only giving us this eminently readable and enjoyable magazine, but for encouraging authors and enthusiasts from all round the world to contribute articles and opinions. While British-based, it is very much a universal magazine for the space minded, and worth every penny/cent/pfennig of the subscription price. I have never missed an issue through the post, and it always gets here very quickly; I think that's great service. I'm a BIS member through my subscription, but otherwise unaffiliated, and I'd add my voice to the chorus that says anyone interested in spaceflight matters and history should also take out a subscription. Ten out of ten, Rex!

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Well said Colin...

Only the mere fact that the "BIS Spaceflight monthly magazine" topic gets so many replies here, tells enough about that superb magazine!

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Good Morning

Thank you for all the good comments about the magazine.The next issue is out and will no doubt drop on to your doormats very soon.

In addition we are producing a Space Chronicle issue on Soviet space activities with articles by Phil Clark and Bart Hendricks on Luna space craft and Russian / Soviet weather satellites. It will be mailed to those who subscribe to it at the end of April.

We also in the early summer will be producing an educational magazine called Voyager. Dave Shayler who is editing it with his brother is interviewing Mark Shuttleworth this morning for it.

It is a very busy time for the staff.

Please visit the BIS website for more information.

Have a good Easter break everyone. Hope you all get your fill of Easter Eggs.

Rex

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Great May 2004 issue (Rosette launch, Mars 5 years ago, etc.)... nothing yet on Beagle 2?

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Good Evening Rex,

Got my Spaceflight May mag recently. I too was glad to read all the space news, the return to flight for STS-114 and STS-121, regarding the loss of foam to the External Tanks, another very good feature was about Hubble Options reviewed. Plus, the overheating problems curtails EVA -- this article I found very interesting.

from Brenda [IOM]

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I just received the page proofs for an article that I have in the upcoming July issue. The article is about the power and propulsion stages used for the KH-9 and KH-11 reconnaissance satellites. Although this is a somewhat arcane subject, I had some interesting information on these classified satellites that I wanted to get into print. Both of these satellites have used a similar propulsion/power stage to reboost them when their orbits got too low and to provide electrical power.

In addition, my colleague Joel Powell, also will have an article about Atlas ICBM and rocket accidents where the vehicle lost pressure and collapsed or crumpled. Mr. Powell has discovered some interesting info about these previously unknown or little-known events, including one in May 1963 involving a pad test of a spy satellite test vehicle.


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