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Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2006 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From NASA:
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Under a partly cloudy sky, Space Shuttle Discovery is ready for launch of mission STS-116 from Launch Pad 39B. The rotating service structure rolled back at approximately 9:30 a.m. this morning to enable launch. No technical issues are being worked at this time.

The launch countdown will resume around 11 a.m. at the T-6 hour and holding mark. Thursday's poor weather conditions spoiled the last attempt at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

NASA officials have set the next launch attempt for tonight at 8:47 p.m. EST. Shuttle weather forecasters expect the cold front to still be over Florida for Saturday's launch, limiting chances for liftoff to 30 percent.

The STS-116 mission is the 33rd for Discovery and the 117th space shuttle flight. During the 12-day mission, the crew will continue construction on the International Space Station, rewiring the orbiting laboratory and adding a segment to its integrated truss structure.


[Edited by Robert Pearlman (December 09, 2006).]

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2006 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The launch team is still working its way through a series of tasks that must be completed before Discovery's orange external tank can be loaded with 500,000 gallons of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. This process, called "tanking," takes about three hours to finish. Once completed, propellant levels in the tank will be continuously "topped off" during the remainder of today's countdown. If tanking has not started by 12:30 p.m. today, the Mission Management Team will meet and decide whether to make another attempt on Sunday or delay launch further.

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posted 12-09-2006 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The launch director has just announced that NASA is "go" for an attempt tonight with tanking set to begin soon.

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posted 12-09-2006 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great news!...Thanks, Robert.

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posted 12-09-2006 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The launch team has begun to load Discovery's orange external tank with 500,000 gallons of liquid oxygen and hydrogen.

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posted 12-09-2006 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The STS-116 crew members are taking their seats inside Space Shuttle Discovery as the vehicle awaits liftoff at 8:47 p.m. EST. Aided by the Closeout Crew, Commander Mark Polansky is the first astronaut to enter the ship. The remaining six astronauts will then climb into the orbiter one at a time, taking their launch positions on the flight- and mid-decks. Once in place, the crew will begin powering up Discovery's systems and getting the ship ready for launch.

Launch managers report no technical issues with the launch pad or space shuttle are being worked on at this point as the countdown marches on.

A cold front continues to dominate weather across Kennedy Space Center, producing partly sunny skies along with variable and gusty winds. The current chance for liftoff has recently been upgraded to 40 percent and continues to trend favorably offering further potential for improvement.


[Edited by Robert Pearlman (December 09, 2006).]

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posted 12-09-2006 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kirsten   Click Here to Email Kirsten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right now they are being strapped to their seats. - But whom am I telling that, we are probably all sitting behind our computers, glued to NASA TV right now ...

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posted 12-09-2006 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the crosswinds improving and other weather issues having cleared up, the revised forecast calls for only a 30 percent chance of weather prohibiting launch tonight. This is a dramatic improvement over previous forecasts, which indicated a 60-70 percent chance of the shuttle being grounded due to weather.

The Closeout Crew has reported that the crew module is closed, latched and pressurized, and cabin leak checks have verified the integrity of the cabin door seal. With a little more than two hours remaining before liftoff, the astronaut crew is safely sealed inside Space Shuttle Discovery, awaiting liftoff at 8:47 p.m.

[Edited by Robert Pearlman (December 09, 2006).]

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posted 12-09-2006 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CNN has a nice interview with Cady Coleman on STS-116.

[Edited by collectSPACE Admin (December 09, 2006).]

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posted 12-09-2006 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irish guy   Click Here to Email irish guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the crew of Discovery,good luck and god speed from Ireland.James,Tim Ben,and all the folks in Brevard tonight,keep the tripods steady,and post us all the wonderful sights..eamonn

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posted 12-09-2006 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for november25   Click Here to Email november25     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The launch of STS116 all seemed to go well-
great watching via the computer flat screen,
the great glow in the Florida night sky-glad I stayed up late.
Thanks Robert for the latest info-hope you and Ben enjoyed the atmosphere.
best wishes and god speed to the crew of Discovery.
posted by november 25

Tom
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posted 12-09-2006 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got a fantastic view of tonights launch from Long Island, New York. Was able to see the last 30 seconds of powered flight...through MECO.
MECO is pretty impressive!

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posted 12-09-2006 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife and two sons caught it a little earlier, and also through MECO, too. It really flickered there at the end! Very easy to spot from Washington DC western suburbs; no mistaking it for an airplane - no flashing lights!! Next time I'll try to have my 94mm refractor on it.

Very cool! Now I can say I've finally seen a shuttle launch!

-Rich

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posted 12-09-2006 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstronautBrian   Click Here to Email AstronautBrian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched the launch on NASA tv.

Question: Can someone tell me what the large flame coming out of a chimney of some sort not far from the shuttle is? I mean, it was a BIG flame.

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posted 12-09-2006 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstronautBrian:
Question: Can someone tell me what the large flame coming out of a chimney of some sort not far from the shuttle is? I mean, it was a BIG flame.
Answer from NASA.gov:
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In addition to the bright lights at the launch pad, a bright orange flame can sometimes be seen inside the pad perimeter. This is actually a safety feature: The flame burns away excess hydrogen in the area so it doesn't become a toxic hazard.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-09-2006 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Night light! Bright start to STS-116 mission
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Shuttle Discovery lit up the night sky as it soared to orbit with the STS-116 crew, the shuttle's first night launch since 2002. The mission's seven astronauts will reconfigure electrical power and cooling systems, as well as deliver supplies to the space station.

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posted 12-09-2006 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstronautBrian   Click Here to Email AstronautBrian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Robert for the answer to my question.

It was a picture perfect night launch. I did not realize you could see it from so far away.

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posted 12-10-2006 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kirsten   Click Here to Email Kirsten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Godspeed Discovery !

I followed NASA TV on my comouter and watched the launch live on TV on CNN.
What I, however, noticed was that, here in the Netherlands, the transmission of the events from NASA TV into the Internet was delayed for about 10 seconds as opposed to CNN. What could be the reason for that ?

All the best, Kirsten

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posted 12-10-2006 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Davis   Click Here to Email Michael Davis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kirsten:
however, noticed was that, here in the Netherlands, the transmission of the events from NASA TV into the Internet was delayed for about 10 seconds as opposed to CNN. What could be the reason for that ?
Not just the Netherlands. It was true here in Houston as well. I was watching the NASA feed on the internet and then went to my TV with the NASA channel just prior to launch. There was a several second delay on the internet feed. I was surprised.

[Edited by collectSPACE Admin (December 10, 2006).]

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posted 12-10-2006 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nasa TV on my computer vs. launch time based on my clock set to NIST time was 1.5 minutes behind.

That's not cool.....

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posted 12-10-2006 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kirsten:
What could be the reason for that?
The technical term for the delay is "lag". From Wikipedia:
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Lag refers to the time taken for a packet of data from the sending application to the receiving application. This includes both transit time over the network, and computer processing time at both the source and destination computers.

Whilst in the strictest sense every packet experiences lag, the term lag is implied to refer to noticeable delays to the user caused as a result of extended or unexpected delay. As the time taken for a packet to travel from a server in Europe to a client nearby in the same region is likely to differ from a trip from Europe to the Americas or Asia, it is possible that two users may experience connections to the same server with a different extent of network lag.


Essentially, the NASA TV stream was delayed because NASA's servers needed to encode the data, it then needed to make its way to you and then your computer needed to decode the data, creating a multi-second delay.

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posted 12-10-2006 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Essentially, the NASA TV stream was delayed because NASA's servers needed to encode the data, it then needed to make its way to you and then your computer needed to decode the data, creating a multi-second delay.
And if you watch NASA feed with Real Player and Windows Media Player, you'll also notice that the two do not display the same images: there's a delay between the two.

Chris.

[Edited by cspg (December 10, 2006).]

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posted 12-10-2006 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katabatic   Click Here to Email katabatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife put together a little birthday party for me last night, and I dragged the group out right after launch, assuring them it was worth standing in the cold. There was a lot of "there it is" "no it's an airplane" (we're right by Dulles Airport) when we all finally agreed that that one light that was hauling across the sky had to be it. When it MECO'd the whole crowd went "WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" A cool birthday present.

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posted 12-11-2006 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife and I had the great privilege to see the launch of STS 116 from the Banana River site 3.5 miles from pad 39B. We went to see the Imax movie, Magnificent Desolation, Thursday before the launch as my wife had never seen it and Al Worden was there. He sat two rows directly in front of us with what I would think where some family members. When the movie ended I managed to get to a place where I walked down the stairs together with Mr. Worden, at which time I had a chance to talk to him and found him to be very personable. I was amazed that only I appeared to know who he was, as no one but me took his picture.

We were then transported by bus out to the Saturn V building; the Banana River viewing area. The first night launch scrub was unfortunate but it was a thrill to be there, the energy, the excitement filled the air and it was very crowded (they said there was 73 buses of 55 people per bus which is about 4000 folks strong). While dining, we talked to a couple who told of his working for NASA since the Gemini days. He is a very interesting man. Also, we talked to a lady who was a very close friend (for 40 years) of Joan Higginbotham's mom and that was an informative conversation as well. I watched as our GII Space Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA) shot approaches during the last ten minutes of the count . You could see it fly into the low level clouds over the Banana River and I felt that this would be a show stopper. When they held the count and waited for one more STA approach we watched it come in and could see the lights until it was once again over the Banana river where the lights faded into the low clouds and so went our hopes of a launch that night.

Friday we spent our time viewing the two Imax movies (one can never see those too many times).

Now that it has launched and looking back it was great to get to do it again on Saturday. I would say that there was only half as many folks there but the excitement was as great or more than Thursday's attempt. I believe that the media were such nay sayers for a successful launch that it drove people away. The only good information I could get was with Robert and the cS site, GREAT JOB ROBERT! Pictures or video can not describe the real life event; the sound, the intense light, the feeling of being part of the actual event only comes from being there! I have attached the one photo I took of the actual launch. I just pointed the camera in the sky, took it, and went back to viewing it live; no sense watching the launch through the view finder. I will leave that up to the professionals (thanks again Robert!). It was a night that will never been forgotten. Here is a photo of pad 39B during the countdown and a couple of Al Worden (check out the 3D glasses).

[Edited by GACspaceguy (December 11, 2006).]

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