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Topic: 7/17/1962 X-15 Astrowings Flight
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cosmos-walter
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From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 05-18-2004 06:52 AM
   
Hi folks,
Has anybody of you any information on covers flown onboard B-52 during 7/17/1962 X-15 astrowings flight?
April 2004 Superior-Regency auction sold a cover with rubber stamp "Carried on Board B-52 "X-15 Carrier" during record altitude flight of Major Robert White". Was it actualy flown? If so, how many covers were flown?
I am not aware of any cover flown during a X-15 flight reaching space according to USAF regulations. Is anybody of you?Thank you for your help.
Best regards from salzburg, Austria,
Walter |
micropooz
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From: Washington, DC, USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 05-18-2004 11:31 AM
Walter-In my 20+ years of researching X-15 covers, the one you referenced in Regency-Superior was the first I had ever heard of being carried on the B-52 for that flight. I was a bit skeptical too. Hopefully one of our compadres knows the definite answer. Dennis Dillman |
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posted 06-01-2004 11:19 PM
This is interesting. I just emailed Bob White to ask, if he cant recall, Ill contact the drop pilot Jack Allavie. Al |
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posted 06-03-2004 03:13 PM
I just received a reply from Gen. White, he says he knows of no covers carried on the B-52 during any of his drops, specifically that one. Cheers, Al |
cosmos-walter
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posted 06-07-2004 11:19 AM
Dear Dennis and Al,Thank you very much for information.
Al, can you provide me the address of Jack Allavie? Cheers,
Walter |
micropooz
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posted 08-23-2004 03:55 PM
Walter & Co.-Well, I just found some new (old) data on this. Accidently came across an article from the April, 1963 SPA (Society of Philatelic Americans - eventually merged into APS) Journal by Bill Numeroff, the guy whose collection was auctioned by Aurora. In it he shows what I remember as the cover in question (I don't have my Aurora catalog anymore and can't access that lot on the net). The cover does not have the rubber stamp that says "Carried on...". In the article Numeroff says: "In addition to envelopes cacheted for every flight, I also had an envelope stamped on July 17, 1962 when White set the altitude record of 58 miles. This envelope, which had been signed by Crossfield, White, and Walker was held at Edwards for the big flight." End of description. No mention of it being flown on the B-52. The images of the article can be found at:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid586514 Walter or some other kind soul - can you please compare this image in the article with the one in Aurora to verify if they are the same cover (sans the "Carried on..." rubber stamp)? If not, then disregard. If they are the same, then someone has been rubber stamping cachets to say they were carried on the B-52 when they weren't... Dennis [This message has been edited by micropooz (edited August 23, 2004).] |
micropooz
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posted 09-11-2004 01:46 PM
Walter has sent an image of the subject X-15 cover and it is totally different than the one in Numeroff's SPA Journal article referenced above. So, I have to retract what I said there.An image of Walter's cover can be seen at:
http://pic2.picturetrail.com/VOL35/454068/586514/66416495.jpg Best,
Dennis |
cosmos-walter
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From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 09-11-2004 04:18 PM
Dennnis,The cover depicted in 1963 SPA (Society of Philatelic Americans - eventually merged into APS) Journal by Bill Numeroff and the cover we are discussing were sold together in one and the same lot at April 2004 Superior-Regency auction. Strangely enough, they did not depict the "flown" cover. I purchased the lot because I liked the depicted cover with three signatures. All my best,
Walter |
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