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Topic: Astronauts who've not sold any flown artifacts
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Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-16-2010 03:20 PM
   
Looking back through many years of sales records it's interesting that some M-G-A astronauts have apparently sold no flown artifacts from their personal collections.I thought it's maybe interesting to list them into three categories. So, in order of their first flights... - Astronauts who've probably sold a significant portion of their flown mementos:
Schirra, Cooper, Young (HA), McDivitt (AA), Conrad, Lovell, Stafford, Scott (Aurora), Cernan, Gordon, Aldrin, Cunningham, Bean, Haise, Mitchell, Irwin, Worden, Duke, Evans (estate via AA) - Astronauts who have apparently sold few of their flown mementos:
Shepard?, Grissom (estate), White (estate), Collins (some flown flags only?, rest given to NASM?). - Astronauts who have apparently sold NONE of their flown mementos:
Glenn, Carpenter, Borman, Armstrong (most items probably donated to NASM), Eisele (I've only seen a handful of flags donated to charity), Anders, Schweickart, Swigert (estate), Roosa (only carried tree seeds in PPK), Mattingly, Schmitt.
The list of those who've apparently sold none of their flown artifacts is pretty long. Obviously some items will have been given to museums, others given to friends, and many probably retained as treasured family heirlooms.Maybe some other cS members could correct or add to this list. Remember that I'm talking about flown items from the astronauts (personal equipment or flown souvenirs), not heat shield fragments etc from the flights. |
4allmankind
Member Posts: 1043
From: Dallas
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-16-2010 03:46 PM
Excellent post Chris. I made a similar list a few years back. I am not with that list, nor my catalog collection at this moment, but I do recall some pieces being available via auction from the Roosa estate, likely in the mid-90’s if memory serves correct. Also, Collins has parted with items other than flags via Aurora.
Other than that, and I will double check my thoughts here, your list looks quite accurate. |
4allmankind
Member Posts: 1043
From: Dallas
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-16-2010 09:08 PM
Just via a quick flip through some catalogs, the 5/96 Superior sale did have some Apollo 14 flown items from the Roosa collection for sale. The descriptions state that they were all accompanied by LOA's from Stu Roosa. I did not have the time to look through all of my catalogs tonight and stopped after seeing these lots simply to confirm that Roosa did in fact consign flown items for auction. |
NJSPACEFAN
Member Posts: 128
From: Ocala, FL USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-16-2010 09:20 PM
Don't have the 5/96 catalog readily available - but you sure the LOA's of Roosa were from him and not his estate - as he died December 12, 1994?I've seen things of his that he presented to others that sold by those parties, but never anything with an LOA for an item being sold by him. At any rate - his flown items are very seldom seen. I've watched, as he was so kind as to fly a coin on Apollo 14 for me. I feel very privileged that he would do that. |
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Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-17-2010 12:44 AM
I'd be interested to hear the details of the Roosa items, but it's true that if the items were actually gifts to others that were later sold that makes a difference.What stands out on the list is a flight such as Apollo 8, where two of the three astronauts have never sold a flown artifact from their collection as far as I know. That leaves only Lovell's items available from that historic flight, plus official NASA presentations of course. |
4allmankind
Member Posts: 1043
From: Dallas
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-17-2010 06:22 AM
The lots from that sale state 'A certificate of authenticity on NASA stationary signed by Lt. Roosa is included'. The items in that sale with that statement in the description include 'Flown Optics Hand Hold', 'Flown 23mm Gold Medallion', 'Flown 32mm Silver Crew Patch Medallion' (apparently a Robbins judging by the photo) and a 'Flown Franklin Mint Medallion'. Hope this helps! |
NJSPACEFAN
Member Posts: 128
From: Ocala, FL USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-18-2010 01:57 PM
Thanks! Finally found the May '96 catalog (in my basement filled with boxes of catalogs my bride wishes me to throw out) and noticed all the items other than the handhold indicated that Col. Roosa presented the items to the consignor and includes the letter (I imagine the presentation letter is what they are calling an LOA). Also the Apollo 14 optic handhold plaque - shows it was presented to Kenneth Campbell. This item was sold two times over since - and in the Heritage Catalog reflects a letter from Col. Roosa to Kenneth Campbell forwarding him this souvenir. Roosa worked as a Vice President later for Charles Kennth Campbell Investments - a commercial real estate company. So it would appear only a very small handful of items of Col. Roosa's have ever been auctioned - and by third parties and not his estate. Also previously posted: When Hurricane Katrina came through Gulfport, Mississippi in 2005, it destroyed most of the space memorabilia collection that belonged to the late Apollo 14 Command Module Pilot Stu Roosa and his wife Joan. Since then, the Roosas' daughter-in-law, Whitney has been trying to rebuild her family's Apollo 14 treasure chest. That's a terrible loss for the family. |
4allmankind
Member Posts: 1043
From: Dallas
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-18-2010 02:32 PM
Great information there!Didn't the Slayton family lose some items in a flood as well? Sad loss indeed. |
Matt T
Member Posts: 1368
From: Chester, Cheshire, UK
Registered: May 2001
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posted 10-17-2010 02:35 AM
Some earlier comments on the same subject:
Neil Armstrong's personal preference kits |
poofacio
Member Posts: 268
From: United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 10-17-2010 05:25 PM
I have a bio suit patch from Armstrong's "collection". He gave it to a close friend to use as a prize in a golf competition. | |
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